next a USA Today report on bacon?

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  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Type a google search for "food consumption over the decades" and you'll find a plethora of articles and abstracts indicating increased calories.. The reasons are everything from reducing fats and increasing carbs, to being supersized in restaurants, to intentional increased palatability of (primarily) packaged foods, to the size of dinnerware.

    I became overweight because I ate too much and I ate too much for many different reasons.
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    (These poor kittens are sure getting a whuppin'!)

  • Aquawave
    Aquawave Posts: 260 Member
    Well, kittens have to work for a livin'.
  • AlexandraCarlyle
    AlexandraCarlyle Posts: 1,603 Member
    I think they're keeping their kitten end up!! :D
  • Aquawave
    Aquawave Posts: 260 Member
    Think of those poor horses when the kittens attack! Singing, "Attack of the killer kittens, attack of the killer kittens.."
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited June 2017
    kpk54 wrote: »
    Type a google search for "food consumption over the decades" and you'll find a plethora of articles and abstracts indicating increased calories.. The reasons are everything from reducing fats and increasing carbs, to being supersized in restaurants, to intentional increased palatability of (primarily) packaged foods, to the size of dinnerware.

    I became overweight because I ate too much and I ate too much for many different reasons.

    This is true for me too.

    I don't believe that my family (including back in the 70s and 80s, when I was a kid) ate more grains or carbs (we were a big potatoes family, more than grains), because of food recommendations, even though I recall being vaguely aware of anti fat sentiment as a kid. It was well-understood that the healthy grains were supposed to be the whole grain ones (I recall learning in school that you had to look for "whole wheat" or "whole grain," as not all brown bread was such), that there was a big difference (or so we believed) between something like plain Quaker oats and all of the flavored packages, and that -- of course -- sugar was not healthy. Muffins were basically desserts that we sometimes had for breakfast for fun (like a sugary cereal -- although I always hated those -- or special occasion pancakes or waffles, which we'd have with bacon and eggs anyway, normally).

    I also remember every meal being meat, potatoes, and veg (like I said, we did more potatoes than grains, but my grandfather, who had been a farmer, was the biggest grain person I knew). This was culture, not food recommendations (if anything I figured we should be eating more fruit and veg than we were.) Any grains+sugar or grains + fat (except the fat we added ourselves -- butter, cheese, etc.) that came that way was considered an unhealthy food, likely a snack food, not a wholesome one. (I know some of my era grew up eating lots of sugary cereals, but I recall even back then no one thought those were healthy, just that kids would eat them and that it was okay to have a not especially healthy breakfast. My family had sugary cereals as a special treat -- my sister got to have it on the weekend, I hated it so got L'Eggos or some such, which were obviously just as bad or worse -- but we didn't think this was healthy, it was an exception, and my sister and I were thin.)

    I'm always shocked when I hear how low vegetable consumption is in the US, because for my family it was always required, and understand as the basics of a healthy meal (along with meat, grains/potatoes were the "fill you up!" element). So when people blame the guidelines for the diet, I can't help but look at the vegetable issues and getting grains from snack food vs. whole grain sources and say no way. And I say this even though I now think the merits of whole grains are way overstated (and the current thing about coconut oil being bad is dumb).
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    The brainwashing was so successful even I find myself still being impacted by it. Watching 50-70 years friends dying weekly just because of diet is a hard pill to swallow.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    2t9nty wrote: »

    It may be that coconut oil and other saturated fats are healthy in certain amounts or proportions to other fats, and if so, this might vary among different people/genotypes...

    Thanks to the (continuing) demonization >:) of saturated fats over the last several decades and the glacial pace of change, research in this and many other areas of interest to us ketophiles remains in woefully short supply. :/
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited June 2017
    Stephen Phinney on the significant differences in how saturated fat is processed in carb-burners v. keto/fat-adapted.

    https://youtu.be/IMJAjmXFpR0
  • Alaplum
    Alaplum Posts: 169 Member
    Meanwhile in Canada, they're thinking of putting fat warning labels on whole milk and cheese. Crazy innit?
    cbcnews


  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Here's a reply to the AHA from High Intensity Health. (He recommends an advanced (NMR) lipoprotein study to see how your HF is affecting your lipids.)

    https://youtu.be/NnL83BmnjOg
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Here's a reply to the AHA from High Intensity Health. (He recommends an advanced (NMR) lipoprotein study to see how your HF is affecting your lipids.)

    https://youtu.be/NnL83BmnjOg

    Last month running the NMR gave me Peace of mind over 300+ total cholesterol. I ordered it from lifeextension while on sale for $75.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    @GaleHawkins - Thanks for the tip! Does LE have monthly specials, or do you have to sign up for emails?
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    The last deep sale ended 31 May and at 11:55 pm I purchased another male panel ($199)and NMR panel ($75) for some future date. They have smaller discount sales.
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Stephen Phinney on the significant differences in how saturated fat is processed in carb-burners v. keto/fat-adapted.

    This guys is one of my faves, on the low carb front. In my top 5.

  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited June 2017
    bjwoodzy wrote: »
    RalfLott wrote: »
    Stephen Phinney on the significant differences in how saturated fat is processed in carb-burners v. keto/fat-adapted.

    This guys is one of my faves, on the low carb front. In my top 5.

    Stephen Phinney is #1 in my book, with no close competition (in spite of all the genuine experts out there).

    He lands at the top of every category even my drinking self can imagine. He's not only knowledgeable and articulate, but he's refreshingly open-minded and humble - he studiously avoids forcing individuals into boxes (by overgeneralizing principles) and views even his own research "with utmost skepticism."

    And he's funny!

  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    Another guy I like is Timothy Noakes, because of him being able to admit he was wrong for so many years and trying to help folks un-learn all he espoused for so long.
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    Phinney is definitely funny! Phunney.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    bjwoodzy wrote: »
    Phinney is definitely funny! Phunney.

    OMG, how could I have missed it? :joy:

    Well-played!
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    BTW, @bjwoodzy, how've ya been?
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    Pretty awesome, thanks. And I hate the word "awesome," so it's REALLY GOOD.

    You?
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    bjwoodzy wrote: »
    Pretty awesome, thanks. And I hate the word "awesome," so it's REALLY GOOD.

    You?

    Ha, no complaints, keto still working.

    Can't say I'm a huge fan of this aging thing, though it's definitely better to be slimmer and less sweet than if I were still doing the death march to the low-fat drummer!
  • bjwoodzy
    bjwoodzy Posts: 593 Member
    Seriously, getting old sucks. Some of the time.

    [insert a Maxine cartoon here, preferably one of her shaking a fist in the air]
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