Very frequent urination
Bob314159
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From Friday till this morning I went off any attempt at keto - I was eating out - piles of home made food - no way I'm going to get the right value - so I guessed and the actual cals and carbs will be much higher. - All I know is that i've eaten much larger quantities than when I go on vacation
Today I'm eating more normal- carbs at 40 so far
Does this explain the excess water discharge that started midday today?
Today I'm eating more normal- carbs at 40 so far
Does this explain the excess water discharge that started midday today?
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Yes, carbs soak up a ton of fluids to process them. When you drop them, you'll dump fluids again. Make sure to watch those electrolytes to avoid the lows, but you should be good.1
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Thanks - I've been drinking salted coffee - yuch - luckily I work at home next to the bathroom
Also - do you think doing Yoga- puts pressure on things and makes it worse - I'm mostly using poses for back pain.0 -
Shut yer mouth. I love salted coffee.
No really, I do!0 -
I'm surprised - its not that I've been back on keto for a few days - just today - my guess is I was up near 250 carbs on Friday and Saturday. OTOH - the excess water seems to have cleared up0
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You really wanna see something crazy? Do the stupid *kitten* I did, and do a carb refeed with bagels one day. 1000g starch, 12g sodium, and two gallons of water due to thirst. I gained 15 pounds in two days, held it for a week, then spent another two days peeing every twenty minutes.
Never again.5 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »You really wanna see something crazy? Do the stupid *kitten* I did, and do a carb refeed with bagels one day. 1000g starch, 12g sodium, and two gallons of water due to thirst. I gained 15 pounds in two days, held it for a week, then spent another two days peeing every twenty minutes.
Never again.
Yes - sounds similar - also explains my thirst0 -
so that is what was happening.... and i was scared that it was some symptom of pre/diabetes0
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »You really wanna see something crazy? Do the stupid *kitten* I did, and do a carb refeed with bagels one day. 1000g starch, 12g sodium, and two gallons of water due to thirst. I gained 15 pounds in two days, held it for a week, then spent another two days peeing every twenty minutes.
Never again.
@Gallowmere1984 - I sincerely have to say that this is an epic level description, rivaling that of the "sugar free gummy bears" Amazon.com reviews!
*dying* 1 -
Thanks - I've been drinking salted coffee - yuch - luckily I work at home next to the bathroom
Also - do you think doing Yoga- puts pressure on things and makes it worse - I'm mostly using poses for back pain.
@Bob314159 - Puts pressure on what things? The bladder? Depending on the pose/position, possibly. I know that me personally, I have pelvic floor dysfunction, so there are a number of yoga poses I am supposed to modify if I do them, but generally, yoga makes most things better. That being said, I would imagine that certain poses should be avoided with certain conditions. Did you find a yoga resource online specific to your back pain/condition? That's what I would recommend, if you haven't done so yet. It can show you which poses worsen/aggravate things, etc.0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »@Bob314159 - Puts pressure on what things? The bladder? Depending on the pose/position, possibly. I know that me personally, I have pelvic floor dysfunction, so there are a number of yoga poses I am supposed to modify if I do them, but generally, yoga makes most things better. That being said, I would imagine that certain poses should be avoided with certain conditions. Did you find a yoga resource online specific to your back pain/condition? That's what I would recommend, if you haven't done so yet. It can show you which poses worsen/aggravate things, etc.
Pressure on my bladder. I just started yoga a few weeks ago. My back is a mess cause I have an online support job where i'm sitting for 7 hours with a 30 minute break - no chance to take 5 minute breaks. I'm doing mainly restorative yoga from books + youtube and I had two intensive one on one classes. Its made a big difference.
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »@Bob314159 - Puts pressure on what things? The bladder? Depending on the pose/position, possibly. I know that me personally, I have pelvic floor dysfunction, so there are a number of yoga poses I am supposed to modify if I do them, but generally, yoga makes most things better. That being said, I would imagine that certain poses should be avoided with certain conditions. Did you find a yoga resource online specific to your back pain/condition? That's what I would recommend, if you haven't done so yet. It can show you which poses worsen/aggravate things, etc.
Pressure on my bladder. I just started yoga a few weeks ago. My back is a mess cause I have an online support job where i'm sitting for 7 hours with a 30 minute break - no chance to take 5 minute breaks. I'm doing mainly restorative yoga from books + youtube and I had two intensive one on one classes. Its made a big difference.
Do yourself a (very masochistic) favor and pick up Dr. Kelly Starrett's book "Becoming a Supple Leopard". You will hate life for the first month, but man once you get all of that tissue broken free, you start to feel amazing. He actually puts a big focus on undoing the damage done by all of the damned sitting that we do. Most back pain actually tends to originate in the hips and butt, which makes sense when you think about it. They are in a far more compromised position when sitting than the back is, unless you just have Quasimodo tier posture.0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
Do yourself a (very masochistic) favor and pick up Dr. Kelly Starrett's book "Becoming a Supple Leopard". You will hate life for the first month, but man once you get all of that tissue broken free, you start to feel amazing. He actually puts a big focus on undoing the damage done by all of the damned sitting that we do. Most back pain actually tends to originate in the hips and butt, which makes sense when you think about it. They are in a far more compromised position when sitting than the back is, unless you just have Quasimodo tier posture.
good idea - I've read his web stuff and like it0 -
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »@Bob314159 - Puts pressure on what things? The bladder? Depending on the pose/position, possibly. I know that me personally, I have pelvic floor dysfunction, so there are a number of yoga poses I am supposed to modify if I do them, but generally, yoga makes most things better. That being said, I would imagine that certain poses should be avoided with certain conditions. Did you find a yoga resource online specific to your back pain/condition? That's what I would recommend, if you haven't done so yet. It can show you which poses worsen/aggravate things, etc.
Pressure on my bladder. I just started yoga a few weeks ago. My back is a mess cause I have an online support job where i'm sitting for 7 hours with a 30 minute break - no chance to take 5 minute breaks. I'm doing mainly restorative yoga from books + youtube and I had two intensive one on one classes. Its made a big difference.
Ex physio professional here...Can you get a Swiss ball in a rolling cradle to sit on? Google and you'll know what I'm talking about. That was one of the first suggestions we made to clients for back issues due to long hours seated. If your company has any workers safety committee etc you can approach them with physio or doctor recommendations and likely get it covered. Then again, I'm in Canada. Not sure of your situation at the worksite.0 -
@canadjineh - So, like this? http://www.rehabmart.com/product/swiss-ball-chair-24363.html
Since it is used for core exercises, it makes me wonder if it would mess up my pelvic floor stuff. I'm not allowed to do crunches or squats or anything that loosens the pelvic floor, and I have to modify ALL core exercises... I might have to ask about that, if I ever go back to the POP PT... Do you have any ideas?0 -
canadjineh wrote: »
Ex physio professional here...Can you get a Swiss ball in a rolling cradle to sit on? Google and you'll know what I'm talking about. That was one of the first suggestions we made to clients for back issues due to long hours seated. If your company has any workers safety committee etc you can approach them with physio or doctor recommendations and likely get it covered. Then again, I'm in Canada. Not sure of your situation at the worksite.
I'm self employed - working from my home office. I have an Aeron/Herman Miller posture chair - which solved severe back problems I used to have. But in the last year I switched from 4 hour shifts to 7 - which maybe part of the problem.
I had been considering quitting my job, but so far the yoga is helping enough.0 -
Self employed... that can be tough. My hubby is self employed too. Glad the chair & yoga is helping. Have you thought about a standing desk - changes height seated to standing easily and back again? Also maybe a scaling back of hours without movement breaks.1
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »@canadjineh - So, like this? http://www.rehabmart.com/product/swiss-ball-chair-24363.html
Since it is used for core exercises, it makes me wonder if it would mess up my pelvic floor stuff. I'm not allowed to do crunches or squats or anything that loosens the pelvic floor, and I have to modify ALL core exercises... I might have to ask about that, if I ever go back to the POP PT... Do you have any ideas?
Yep, kinda like that but I'd choose one with a back support especially at first like this: google Isokinetics Inc brand Fitness Ball Chair. Sorry I'm on my tablet and don't know how to link the page. You can try Amazon. They have it listed. Cheaper models are not adjustable and that is VERY important. This one has 4 adjustments for the back support and 4 for cradle height and the ball is rated burst proof to 300 lb. You would not have to use it for crunches to improve core functionality but I would definitely show it to your PT and discuss your specific situation first. It takes some 'breaking in' to sit on it comfortably for a full day. You would be muscle sore & tired if you did a full day right away. If you sit on one incorrectly you may fall off, lol, ie. if you slouch. It 'forces' you to sit properly. Spinal movement (bouncing on the ball while sitting) encourages cerebrospinal fluid flow,, also a good thing. When you get really comfortable on the ball you don't need a back support on it. You don't have to get fancy though, just buy a professional ball in the correct size for your leg measurements and really you don't even need a rolling cradle for it unless you usually roll around the office in a regular chair. Standing up to go elsewhere in the office adds squats too lol
Forgot to add that the cheap balls tend to leak, get weird bulges after a while, and aren't burst proof rated for higher weights or more vigorous use (one can safely do a whole aerobic program on the professional models with Russian kicks, etc).1 -
canadjineh wrote: »Self employed... that can be tough. My hubby is self employed too. Glad the chair & yoga is helping. Have you thought about a standing desk - changes height seated to standing easily and back again? Also maybe a scaling back of hours without movement breaks.
Sit/Stand desks are the way to go. I have one at work and I converted my computer desk at home to a standing desk plus lifted my drawing table and easel to standing height. I only really sit to work when I am doing small paintings or sketches at home. I've been standing so long at work it actually feels unnatural to sit for extended periods of time. You do have to work into standing and set up the desk ergonomically plus a tall chair for leaning helps at the beginning. The one must thing you have to have is an anti-fatigue mat. Don't skip on the quality of the mat and have some comfortable shoes. Also move around and don't lock your knees.
I don't suffer from neck, shoulder, or wrist pain anymore plus I tend to be more focused and creative standing.2 -
canadjineh wrote: »Self employed... that can be tough. My hubby is self employed too. Glad the chair & yoga is helping. Have you thought about a standing desk - changes height seated to standing easily and back again? Also maybe a scaling back of hours without movement breaks.
Sit/Stand desks are the way to go. I have one at work and I converted my computer desk at home to a standing desk plus lifted my drawing table and easel to standing height. I only really sit to work when I am doing small paintings or sketches at home. I've been standing so long at work it actually feels unnatural to sit for extended periods of time. You do have to work into standing and set up the desk ergonomically plus a tall chair for leaning helps at the beginning. The one must thing you have to have is an anti-fatigue mat. Don't skip on the quality of the mat and have some comfortable shoes. Also move around and don't lock your knees.
I don't suffer from neck, shoulder, or wrist pain anymore plus I tend to be more focused and creative standing.
Your results don't shock me at all. Humans were evolved to move almost constantly. Whoever designed the chair, desk and cubicle should all be dug up and have their corpses drawn, quartered and burned.4 -
canadjineh wrote: »Self employed... that can be tough. My hubby is self employed too. Glad the chair & yoga is helping. Have you thought about a standing desk - changes height seated to standing easily and back again? Also maybe a scaling back of hours without movement breaks.
I've thought about it - but have two problems with it - I have three monitors and 3 keyboards on a custom modified desk - so I'd have to make a new desk [ I used to make custom furniture]
Also I have occassioal neurlogic problems that are triggered by standing for too long.1 -
canadjineh wrote: »Self employed... that can be tough. My hubby is self employed too. Glad the chair & yoga is helping. Have you thought about a standing desk - changes height seated to standing easily and back again? Also maybe a scaling back of hours without movement breaks.
I've thought about it - but have two problems with it - I have three monitors and 3 keyboards on a custom modified desk - so I'd have to make a new desk [ I used to make custom furniture]
Also I have occassioal neurlogic problems that are triggered by standing for too long.
Can you put stacks of books under the desk legs to raise it? Just sayin'. . .
I got a standing desk at work a few months ago, and it is wonderful. Of course, I had to buy better shoes now that I'm standing 8-9 hours a day instead of sitting. Shoe shopping, such a sacrifice!1 -
canadjineh wrote: »Self employed... that can be tough. My hubby is self employed too. Glad the chair & yoga is helping. Have you thought about a standing desk - changes height seated to standing easily and back again? Also maybe a scaling back of hours without movement breaks.
I've thought about it - but have two problems with it - I have three monitors and 3 keyboards on a custom modified desk - so I'd have to make a new desk [ I used to make custom furniture]
Also I have occassioal neurlogic problems that are triggered by standing for too long.
I am not sure if it would be possible since I don't know what kind of desk you have but instead of build a new desk you can raise the one you have. I did that with my computer desk I just had to have a really good foundation plus I attached an anchor point to the wall just in case it gets top heavy. Ergotron arms are a great thing for monitors and keyboards as well, I have one for my Cintiq. There are a lot of great DIY standing desk solutions on the web.
A tall chair might help as well if you start to have issues standing to long. My office mate does that he stands for a few hours then rolls his chair over for a few hours and vice versa.
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Would bed risers helps lift it? Or depending on how it is built, you might be able to put the tabletop on a platform that would raise and lower it, making it adjustable!0
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I've thought about it - but have two problems with it - I have three monitors and 3 keyboards on a custom modified desk - so I'd have to make a new desk [ I used to make custom furniture]
Also I have occassioal neurlogic problems that are triggered by standing for too long.
I recently bought a treadmill desk from here:
https://www.fully.com/jarvis-treadmill-desk.html
I also own a "regular" jarvis sit-stand desk from the same company (I'm self employed and spend the vast majority of my time on the computer, I have a separate home office and another area for gaming/streaming/music). Love the company and have found the desks very reliable, one of them I've owned for 3+ years now.
Anyway, to your specific points about your desktop:
1) For my current setup, I have the 78x30 top size and its awesome. I'm using it with my treadmill desk, I wanted to be able to have a chair and the treadmilll both and not have it be a major ordeal to switch. I have two 24" monitors mounted on swivel arms, I push a button to raise desk, swivel the monitors to the right side of hte desk for the treadmill, slide over my keyboard and mouse and i'm done. For you this size desk would certainly fit three monitors and keyboards.
2) https://www.fully.com/jarvis-frame-only.html They also sell just the frame and allow you to build your own to secure on top of it.Also I have occassioal neurlogic problems that are triggered by standing for too long.
My physical therapist suggested for me (without neurological problems) that ideally I would just alternate between sitting and standing every 30 minutes. But honestly, as far as all of the articles you'll read about "sitting is killing you", I think if you can just find a way to stand up and move just a tiny bit for 5-10 minutes out of every hour it would *really* help.0
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