Keto Diet
nikkib0103
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Has anyone tried this diet? It reads like the Atkins with berries thrown in. My sister wants to try it on the advice of a friend who always finds these miracle diets. I just find eliminating carbs trying and irksome and am not enthused about it. What has been your experiences if any?
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I started this in March on the advice of my young doctor, and never looked back. I’ve dropped the last 30 pounds I targetted, and am actually below my high school weight, and fitter than I’ve ever been.
240 to 168
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I have a close friend who has had great success with it. I don't even want to try.
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http://www.ketoreset.com/book/
I’d recommend this book highly to learn what it is and isn't. It’s a long way from the old unsustainable Atkins diet. It takes some willpower to drop sugar and carbs from your diet, but well worth the lifestyle change in my opinion.1 -
Farback, you are a constant inspiration. Will check out book and go for it. You are a fabulous testimonial.1
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I’m blushing under the tan. Thanks for the kind words.nikkib0103 wrote: »Farback, you are a constant inspiration. Will check out book and go for it. You are a fabulous testimonial.
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I followed the keto plan for about 5 months. I like to eat meat, and I found it easy to follow. I lost weight, but I also started losing the ability to lift more weight and had less energy in the gym.
I took a diet break at maintenance and then went back to eating a more balanced diet. I am lifting more weight again, and have more energy for workouts. Not losing right now, but I am easing the calorie target down slowly.
It was a tradeoff for me. I think that each of us has to find a diet or eating plan that works for us. There is no "one size fits all" when it comes to food intake.3 -
I agree Steve, no plan fits everyone, and I describe myself as low carb if asked. I don’t need the drama and lectures the word ‘Keto’ brings. This works for me, but I certainly don’t knock on people’s doors to sell the ‘one true way’.
PS Are you a bow hunter?2 -
I agree Steve, no plan fits everyone, and I describe myself as low carb if asked. I don’t need the drama and lectures the word ‘Keto’ brings. This works for me, but I certainly don’t knock on people’s doors to sell the ‘one true way’.
No kidding. I have a good friend who lost some weight on a low carb plan, but did not exercise at all. He complained that he lost muscle mass instead of fat. He lectured me several times about the evils of keto and low carb eating. I've tried to get him to the gym with me, but no success so far.
I am a rifle hunter who has friends who bow hunt. I have dabbled in the sport, but have not gotten serious about it. I need another expensive hobby. HAHA!PS Are you a bow hunter?
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I've briefly done Keto. Wasn't for me. I do think it's very useful for some. I believe it's the most effective way to lose weight and it's great for "resetting" your metabolism. What I personally didn't like about it is I do athletic training. For me (personally), I felt awful on it. Now, I only gave it less than a month. Many claim you have to give it longer than that.
Look, it's much better than the average Western diet. If someone can stick to it, great for them (great job Farback!). The only issues I have with it are you're eating a crap ton of meat/animal products, which isn't for me personally. You mentioned berries. I'm working on breaking into Microbiome Therapeutics companies as a consultant currently so I read/come across a lot of the latest research. Berries/Polyphenols are huge for the gut health. If someone does Keto, I'd say to ensure they're getting a lot of tart berries, green tea and eating a lot of green, leafy veggies. I'd also (personally if I were doing keto) consider supplementing with fiber, especially inulin. Also, eating a lot of asparagus, unsweetened coconut and other natural sources of fiber. If I were to do Keto, also, with the research I've seen, I'd want a lot of my fats from coconut and olive oil and stick to relatively lean meats. I'm not a fan of all the bacon/red meat that some do on Keto. You'll still lose weight but you might as well be doing the old Atkins. There is a lot of research coming out that red meats/animal products high in animal fat spike inflammation because they shift your Microbiome ratios from one type to another that is pro inflammatory. You can get the benefits of Keto by eating leaner meats like chicken breast and fish and loading up on grass fed butter, coconut oil and olive oil, avocados and the like and have a much healthier version of it. These are my opinions based on extensive reading that I've done over the last few years.
Keto also is the number one diet I see people choose when they don't want to move/exercise, likely because it works the best and they're not fond of exercise. Not many do keto and sweat like Farback is in the picture, he's the rare exception. I know a lot of rowers/runners that are ultra low carb and do exceptionally well. As long as someone still moves more, it's a decent way to lose a lot of weight.1 -
Thanks Mike. I agree with the points you’ve made. I do avoid bacon and fatty meats. It just seems wrong to me as a health nut. I eat a lot of lean meat, limited beef, mainly chicken and fish. Lots of berries, nuts and veggies. A lot of the ‘hooray bacon!’ Side of keto seems wrong to me.2
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Well it is going well so far. I am craving a cold Pepsi though. Lost 8 pounds the first week. I know it's water weight but still encouraging!4
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Congrats Nikki! It’s a long road, and a lot of commitment. You’ll likely see a weight loss stall after a couple months, but continue to see clothes getting too big with body composition changes.0
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Congrats Nikki! It’s a long road, and a lot of commitment. You’ll likely see a weight loss stall after a couple months, but continue to see clothes getting too big with body composition changes.
Thanks, Farback. It already stalked this week! Not a surprise. No matter what diet I do, if I have a big loss one week my hips get scared and hold on tight. I am hoping to reach goal by next bikini season. So I have time for slowdowns and pitfalls.0 -
When I first started my path to fitness, I did the program at the Bariatric Medical Institute, a clinic started by Dr. Yoni Freedhoff, a medical physician who observed that many patients at his practice had conditions that were linked or acerbated by obesity. He looked about for resources to do referrals but there wasn't specialist clinics in Ottawa so he created his own. His approach to finding a healthy weight and living a healthy lifestyle guided my progress.
All of that to say... here's a link to an article produced by the dietitians at the BMI... While they're not saying no to keto, they see others are healthier choices.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2007618382636213&id=1521556581825042 -
I agree, keto done to extremes can be dangerous. I’m on a keto site where people are recommending things I’d never attempt, like 5 day fasts, complete meat diets, all sorts of things my instincts tells me are likely to lead to a bad end. There’s a lot of supplements people use as well, not something I’m interested in. I’m careful to make sure I get my electrolytes, after a bad experience with a five mile run in high heat.
With a cautious approach, four months in I’m feeling great and hovering around 170 pounds, 4 less than I weighed when I graduated high school in 1970 ought 4.
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I agree with Nikki, Farback . you are a constant inspiration Keto obviously works for you.
My issue with it .. I’m a vegetarian & it seems to be a meat eaters diet. Am I correct in assuming that?0 -
Thanks B. It doesn’t have to be meat where the protein comes from. I’ve read there are many vegetarians and vegans who are keto. One of my daughters and her man are vegans.1
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I’m not hard core on the keto front, I stay low carb but indulge in fish and chips on occasion. Presently I’m between 165 to 170 pounds, and in the shape of my life (discounting this present shingles thing)0
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I agree with Nikki, Farback . you are a constant inspiration Keto obviously works for you.
My issue with it .. I’m a vegetarian & it seems to be a meat eaters diet. Am I correct in assuming that?
Keto is a little more challenging for us vegetarians because some of our standard protein sources are higher in carbs, as well as just the general principle that the more food restrictions one adds, the more complicated/difficult things get. But vegetarian keto can be done, as Farback said. (I like my carbs too much to try: A low-legume life is not a happy life, in my world!
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Uncle Mac, I had great success with the DASH Diet in the past. Going back to,it.1
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nikkib0103 wrote: »Uncle Mac, I had great success with the DASH Diet in the past. Going back to,it.
I've never heard of the DASH Diet before. What's involved?0 -
nikkib0103 wrote: »Uncle Mac, I had great success with the DASH Diet in the past. Going back to,it.
I've never heard of the DASH Diet before. What's involved?
It was originally developed to combat high blood pressure but they discovered it also had weight loss benefits. Really all it is is common sense. It tells you the amounts to eat based on your goals. Nothing is off the table to eat but you are supposed to really limit sugar and high fat/processed foods. For me, one day would look like this: 1 c Cheerios, 1/2 c 1% milk and 81g banana. For lunch I would have 2 oz turkey on whole wheat bread, a salad, half a tbs of dressing, a snack would be 13 almonds and a mini Babybel. For dinner I might have 4 oz salmon, a cup of broccoli, salad, a cup of carrots and an orange. My night snack might be a half cup of sugar free Jello and 8 cherries. There is a firm belief in portion control and CICO. I relied on my food scale and measuring cups and spoons. It is relatively simple and a lot like the Mediterranean diet. What I like is that it doesn't eliminate any food group. The Dash Diet For Weight Loss by Dr. Moore is a good resource. Others have written books about it but he was one of the scientists who worked on the diet and is more reliable than others who have adapted it.2 -
I threw DASH Diet into Google and the results were kind of overwhelming and confusing. I got the impression that most websites were focused on selling books rather than sharing concepts. Mind you, I didn't dig deeply.0
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Uncle Mac, I can't figure out how to copy a link with my smartphone. Google Amazon.com DASH Diet for Weight loss Thomas Moore. When that page comes up scroll to product description and it will give you a ton of info about the diet, including a sample of a day's menu. The websites get confusing because different authors put different spins on it, but Dr Moore has been involved in some of the actual studies and I found him to be the most reasonable and find see stackable. If you get the book, don't get it on Kindle. You find yourself flipping back and forth between pages too much in the early chapters to make it user friendly. I don't often, if ever, advise anyone to buy anything. You could likely get it in your library, too.1
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DASH is not really a "diet" in the weight loss arena so to speak. It stands for Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension and I believe it was devised by NIH. It is a great guideline that will help you eat healthier and do wonders for your blood pressure.
I pattern my eating on DASH but can't say I follow it exactly.
For a simplistic view I follow this advice:
"When following the DASH eating plan, it is important to choose foods that are:
Low in saturated and trans fats;
Rich in potassium, calcium, magnesium, fiber, and protein; and
Lower in sodium"
At age 50 and above the powers that be recommend no more than 1500 mg of sodium.
It is my personal goal to delay the use of prescription drugs to lower blood pressure as both my parents take such meds.
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health-topics/dash-eating-plan
The above link tells you everything you need to know about DASH.1 -
Thank you both!! Now all I need is time to sit and read this stuff... lol
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I'm actually quite surprised at how many books are coming out on Vegan Keto. I'm not sure how you'd do it but I suppose tons of avocados, coconut oil, olive oil and limited nuts (because the nuts have some carbs). I would also think a plant based protein powder like Sunwarrior or Pea Protein or Hemp protein might help too. I've even used avocados in protein drinks (even frozen ones but that's tricky because they stick together and become like a brick, so you have to bag or wrap just what you'll use individually). Unsweetened Coconut or Nut Milk has very few carbs.
Just like with any keto, tart berries and leafy greens would become a huge part of it.0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »
I'm actually quite surprised at how many books are coming out on Vegan Keto. I'm not sure how you'd do it but I suppose tons of avocados, coconut oil, olive oil and limited nuts (because the nuts have some carbs). I would also think a plant based protein powder like Sunwarrior or Pea Protein or Hemp protein might help too. I've even used avocados in protein drinks (even frozen ones but that's tricky because they stick together and become like a brick, so you have to bag or wrap just what you'll use individually). Unsweetened Coconut or Nut Milk has very few carbs.
Just like with any keto, tart berries and leafy greens would become a huge part of it.
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My doctor is encouraging me to do keto in order to drop a fair bit of weight . I'm not sold on it being a long term lifestyle choice but I'm willing to go low carb(15%) ish per day but my hubs is already whining about not cooking his favorite foods. He could use this just as much as he is type 2 diabetic.anyone here keto or long time low carb? How do you keep meals interesting? Any favorite recipi sites?1
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