Garmin connected to MFP
FromHereOnOut
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Suddenly on the dashboard today I got the option to connect to MFP, which I ecstatically accepted. Garmin magically connected without even asking my username or password :huh: , but I had mfp open in another window, so maybe it took from there.
Anyway, I'm very happy even though it's not totally working correctly yet. Right now, it shows "Calories in" as only from the last meal I logged (we'lll call it lunch), which means breakfast isn't accounted for, and it has "Calories out" as "Active calories" (less bmr). I'll be interested to see how all that works.
I don't know why breakfast isn't showing up, unless it's just due to the first time connecting. To be sure, I checked that the timezones match. They do. Anyway, I see lots of changes with Garmin lately and they seem to be working very hard to get things ironed out. It's very exciting.
Anyone else connected yet? Is it working well?
Anyway, I'm very happy even though it's not totally working correctly yet. Right now, it shows "Calories in" as only from the last meal I logged (we'lll call it lunch), which means breakfast isn't accounted for, and it has "Calories out" as "Active calories" (less bmr). I'll be interested to see how all that works.
I don't know why breakfast isn't showing up, unless it's just due to the first time connecting. To be sure, I checked that the timezones match. They do. Anyway, I see lots of changes with Garmin lately and they seem to be working very hard to get things ironed out. It's very exciting.
Anyone else connected yet? Is it working well?
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There are definitely problems. I'm a little surprised they went live already, with it like this.
It only takes the subtotal from my latest meal down the line and ignores everything else above that. This will never work. I can go in my last meal (which I've set up as a "catch all" for things I had throughout the day that didn't fit into my regular times/meals) and put a quick add with my current subtotal and it reflects everything correctly in garmin, but naturally, my mfp is now doubled. Also, there is no sync button between them--you have to disconnect and reconnect.
There's nothing happening on the mfp side of things yet--like garmin doesn't populate the exercise tab.
I can see that this will be really cool when the bugs get worked out--but it's not there yet.0 -
Yes, yes, yes, it's happening!!!!
Tomorrow, I'll walk the dog with the HRM. On Saturday I'll walk the dog without the HRM. Then I'll take a look at the data and check what allows me to eat more.:)
This really made my day!!!0 -
THIS IS AWESOME!
Mine shows calories from my breakfast and snack.
I wonder if it add calories when you exercise?
Also it does *kitten* exercise into mfp eventually!
This is a start!!
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My consumed calories for Breakfast, lunch and snacks match exactly. The calorie deduction for exercise is off however. MFP has credited me with 264 while Garmin is a more generous 310. I can live with the delta - I'm just happy that we finally have MFP integration. Hopefully it will be fine tuned over time.0
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Something strange happend. I had about 300 kcal left to go so I had a glass of white wine. Now I have 600 kcal left. Just saying, I'm confident it will all be just fine.0
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Yes it looks like it's "kinda" working. I'll be interested to see how it sends adjustment data to MFP at the end of the day?0
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It is still taking only the subtotal of the bottom-most "meal" from mfp. I put there in one of the lower "meals" a zero-calorie entry and suddenly I've got a whole day's worth of calories to eat. :-(
Maybe it's because I don't use the standard mfp meal labels. ???
rscotty2--do you mean that garmin populated mfp with exercise and they don't match....or do you mean that exercise that you manually logged into mfp doesn't match your calories out in garmin? Mine isn't populating the exercise to mfp and the manually logged mfp exercise pretty much never matches garmin0 -
Maybe it's because I don't use the standard mfp meal labels. ???
I changed my meal labels and things are working now. (yay!)
p.s. - while I was in Settings, I checked to allow negative entries and now it's logging exercise too! (guess I don't have to manually log now, although I like to keep track, might log for my own info anyway)0 -
I just saw it as I went to Sync on Garmin's site...very nice indeed. (wish the other places I connect my Fitbit to, will work with Garmin.)0
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My consumed calories for Breakfast, lunch and snacks match exactly. The calorie deduction for exercise is off however. MFP has credited me with 264 while Garmin is a more generous 310. I can live with the delta - I'm just happy that we finally have MFP integration. Hopefully it will be fine tuned over time.
Now that I've changed some settings and it is working, I see what you mean about the exercise calories.
I'm still trying to make sense of it all. I've made lots of changes in mfp to settings such as meal labels, negative entries, and my goals. I think there will always be a discrepancy between what mfp considers my normal calories burned due to normal activity vs. garmin's so-called bmr. It's about a 54 calorie difference for me, so hopefully it won't make a huge difference. I'm not totally clear why not all the active calories get logged from garmin to mfp exercise, but I'm going to give it a few days to see how things work.0 -
End of the day (and after tinkering with some mfp settings), everything works perfectly. The difference in active calories on garmin and the credit you get in mfp exercise is, as far as I can tell, the difference between garmin's so-called "bmr" and mfp's equivalent (basically the normal daily calorie expenditure). They are NOT identical on the two apps, so the difference gets made up by not transferring the difference on a daily basis. So, as I said earlier, there's about a 54 calorie difference in mine for the two apps, and there was also about a 54 calorie difference between garmin's 'active calories' for the day and what actually showed up in mfp exercise. Voila! Everything's working!0
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The last problem that I'm having is over at Garmin Connect. I have 6 "meals" set up in mfp. If I don't have at least 4 meals populated with SOMETHING in mfp, it takes the 3rd that I have populated and doubles it. So, in that case, I have to at least add a quick add of zero calories to a 4th "meal", to see it correctly in Garmin Connect. I REALLY hope they fix that, because although I usually do have something logged in at least 4 "meals", on the off chance that I don't, I don't know that I'll remember to make the zero-calorie place-holder. :-/ But as far as I can tell, everything looks great on the mfp side.0
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Hmm, Not getting my calories in/out despite having my entire day's meal logged on MFP. It says to see today's calorie info, log my food...HUH? Its been logged since last nite and I have just posted my diary as complete. Not sure what the snafu is....anyone else have this happening?0
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Have you pressed sync? Also, it says calories are synced every five minutes. There might be a delay?
Or disconnect MFP and pair them together again?0 -
Yup, a few times since.....and still getting same thing. Did sync and then posted and just did again nearly 30 min later.0
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Something similar happend to me a while ago. I did the whole pairing gain and now it works.0
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gonna try that..oddly it shows on full page report but not the small square on the dashboard.
not worked for me ...not at this point :noway:0 -
Airangel have you changed you meal names? I read earlier that it causes problems with identification of calories consumed.0
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I have now been out with the dog with the HRM and my FR620 and I've been running for half an hour having only the 620 paired to the HRM. All in all I'm very happy. What I have not tried yet is cycling. Will I have to use the HRM with my vivofit or will it be enough to pair it with the 620? Will the vivofit/MFP understand the calories burned with the 620 only when the vivofit itself doesn't recognize that meny calories? Exciting! However, the weather is so bad today that I'll test it another day.0
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gonna try that..oddly it shows on full page report but not the small square on the dashboard.
not worked for me ...not at this point :noway:
It didn't work for me either. I use the default meal names on MFP. Garmin was able to import my the calories that I have set up in MFP, but nothing else.0 -
It is all screwy for me.
When I synced this morning upon waking (as I normally do) two things happened.
1. A Garmin adjustment was made in yesterday's log but the total calories burned value was taken (active and exercise) and put into the exercise diary. The trouble is that the value was a positive number and MFP looks at calories burned as a negative number. So although i had posted a -3,044 cal burn from cycling yesterday, the Garmin value that came over was +6000-ish. Therefore, my total cal burn was viewed as +3,000!!!!! Which not only is impossible (you burn cals just existing) but then completely skews the total cals in my diary for that day. So now instead of showing that i actually was 2,490 cals under goal, my diary said that i had overeaten by nearly 3,000 cals!!! WTF!!!
2. There was also another nasty surprise in that there was an entry for today's diary that showed a +690 exercise burn adjustment (even though I had just woken up) and this then lowered my remaining cals for the day by that amount!!!! Arrrggghh!!!
Not sure who did the integration, MFP or Garmin, but there are some definite bugs. I would imagine that they are easily fixed though, so am still hopeful. Until then I will manually delete and correct the entries every day or switch off integration for now.
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I synced mine last night after completing my food log for the day. I'd also ran yesterday while wearing my vivofit/hrm but had already logged my calories burned manually into mfp. It seemed to work perfectly! I got an extra 100ish calorie "bump" from the vivofit, but whatever, just difference in BMR calc's between the two is my guess. I don't sync my Garmin 610 to connect, everything is logged in dailymile instead, so hopefully that helps not get things doublecounted.
The only problem is that it wouldn't pull in my calories at all from mfp into connect for yesterday. Today is the only option, it won't let me go back to yesterday and last night it wouldn't pull them in. But today seems to be working ok so far.0 -
MFP/vivofit will not recognize calories earned with another device. I tested the bike with the FR620 and have no credit for that. I manually added the calories burnt to MFP but even then - nothing. As for now one must have the HRM connected to the vivofit when cycling.0
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veloman, you have to see what the difference is between your Garmin so-called "bmr" each day and what you will find in MFP under "goals" as the Calories burned in normal activity. Because the difference there will reflect in your exercise adjustment. I had to re-adjust all my goals in mfp, because I had it kinda rigged up in a way that only I understood. Once I went in and made MFP sedentary and my deficit, then there's no "assumed" activity by mfp, instead garmin takes care of that with the adjustment. SOrry if that doesn't make sense, b/c i can't even quite make it all out sometimes, but I just know from experience that you have to get your Goals setup correctly (the farther the MFP normal activity caloires is from the Garmin so-called "bmr", the stranger that exercise adjustment will be, I think.0
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czmmom and airangel, it seems that aswearing had a similar problem with yesterday but is working today...how about y'all?0
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I just checked and it seems to be working ok today. I was thinking it might take a couple of days to get all the kinks worked out. Thanks for asking!!0
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veloman, you have to see what the difference is between your Garmin so-called "bmr" each day and what you will find in MFP under "goals" as the Calories burned in normal activity. Because the difference there will reflect in your exercise adjustment. I had to re-adjust all my goals in mfp, because I had it kinda rigged up in a way that only I understood. Once I went in and made MFP sedentary and my deficit, then there's no "assumed" activity by mfp, instead garmin takes care of that with the adjustment. SOrry if that doesn't make sense, b/c i can't even quite make it all out sometimes, but I just know from experience that you have to get your Goals setup correctly (the farther the MFP normal activity caloires is from the Garmin so-called "bmr", the stranger that exercise adjustment will be, I think.
Ahh, thanks for this! My TDEE according to mfp is 1,670, and with my vivofit on rest days, it's around 1735 give or take. So I imagine I'll get an extra 50-100 calories added back to mfp by vivofit each day to allow for this, correct?
I think I apparently just really like to play with numbers. I have mfp set to a daily net goal of 1350. I use my Garmin 610 to record my runs and workouts and manually log the calories into mfp. I also wear my vivofit during workouts and runs so that I get my total TDEE that day. Then I have a spreadsheet where I enter my daily TDEE from vivofit, calculate 80% of tdee, my calories from mfp, and compare my over/under for the day and accumulate by week also calculating the % cut and the pounds I should have lost vs actual with running totals. A little overkill, yes?;) The 80% cut comes out pretty close to what mfp shows as my net once I changed my daily net to be 1350 instead of 1200, so I can use the calories on mfp to get pretty close to where I should be eating. So now that vivofit integrates, I'll have to play around with it all again as it's adding back in those 100 or so calories a day.0 -
veloman, you have to see what the difference is between your Garmin so-called "bmr" each day and what you will find in MFP under "goals" as the Calories burned in normal activity. Because the difference there will reflect in your exercise adjustment. I had to re-adjust all my goals in mfp, because I had it kinda rigged up in a way that only I understood. Once I went in and made MFP sedentary and my deficit, then there's no "assumed" activity by mfp, instead garmin takes care of that with the adjustment. SOrry if that doesn't make sense, b/c i can't even quite make it all out sometimes, but I just know from experience that you have to get your Goals setup correctly (the farther the MFP normal activity caloires is from the Garmin so-called "bmr", the stranger that exercise adjustment will be, I think.
Well I can live with that difference but this is something altogether different, The Garmin data was essentially saying that I had CONSUMED an extra 3000+ calories instead of burning them as I had.
I've sent an email to MFP in case I have some settings wrong but it is all very confusing. Also why would there be an extra adjustment of 690 calories added on the start of the day before I had even got out of bed? That's silly.0 -
veloman, you have to see what the difference is between your Garmin so-called "bmr" each day and what you will find in MFP under "goals" as the Calories burned in normal activity. Because the difference there will reflect in your exercise adjustment. I had to re-adjust all my goals in mfp, because I had it kinda rigged up in a way that only I understood. Once I went in and made MFP sedentary and my deficit, then there's no "assumed" activity by mfp, instead garmin takes care of that with the adjustment. SOrry if that doesn't make sense, b/c i can't even quite make it all out sometimes, but I just know from experience that you have to get your Goals setup correctly (the farther the MFP normal activity caloires is from the Garmin so-called "bmr", the stranger that exercise adjustment will be, I think.
Well I can live with that difference but this is something altogether different, The Garmin data was essentially saying that I had CONSUMED an extra 3000+ calories instead of burning them as I had.
I've sent an email to MFP in case I have some settings wrong but it is all very confusing. Also why would there be an extra adjustment of 690 calories added on the start of the day before I had even got out of bed? That's silly.
Make sure that the 3000+ is not just a doubling of one of your mfp meals. That was happening to me yesterday until I made sure that SOMETHING was in each meal (even if it was just a Quick Add of zero calories). It's like it's expecting at least 4 meals and if you don't have 4 meals filled-in, it just double counts the 3rd meal or something. Idk, everyone seems to be having different problems, but at one point I had that problem yesterday, so check it out and see.
As for the 690 being added at the start of the day, that might be that difference between how you have Garmin setup ("bmr") and how you have mfp setup (calores from normal activity). Maybe?0 -
Sigh...mine on the small widget is not working but if I blow it up to the full page version it does show my calories. Should work using the small widget on the dashboard though but it's a no go
I did way back when change meal names..not sure if that is what is causing the hiccup or not.
I did connect/disconnect a few times, hit sync a few times, waited way more than 5 minutes and still nada on the small widget. :noway:0
