Rick Perry's Latest Ad

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daffodilsoup
daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
edited October 2024 in Social Groups
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA&feature=youtube_gdata_player Go ahead and watch, I'll wait.

Anyone else pretty disgusted by this?
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  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    I can't believe he called out gays in the military! Last time I checked, kids can pray in school.........to themselves. They don't need to stand on a desk with a bible in their hand to pray to God.
  • What the heck is that? I am very conservative - he makes it sound like letting gays serve in the military is a bad thing. He is not my favorite candidate. To me he and romney look like bookends - both just a little to slick and to liberal for me.
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
    Perry is an imbicile.

    Deb, do you really think Perry is too liberal? HOW??? If he was any farther right he'd fall over.
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    I don't understand why there isn't more outrage over this ad. If the word "gays" had been replaced with "blacks" or "women", the public would be in an uproar. Why is this okay? He's pretty much getting on national television and denouncing the service of our troops who happen to be homosexual.

    Are people seriously considering this clown to represent the United States?

    Edited to Ask: Deb, HOW on earth is Perry liberal?
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    I don't understand why there isn't more outrage over this ad. If the word "gays" had been replaced with "blacks" or "women", the public would be in an uproar. Why is this okay? He's pretty much getting on national television and denouncing the service of our troops who happen to be homosexual.

    How in the world did he (or his PR people) think that was a good ad????? I don't even see how that issue fits at all into his ad.
  • Perry is an imbicile.

    Deb, do you really think Perry is too liberal? HOW??? If he was any farther right he'd fall over.

    You are correct - i used incorrect description. I guess maybe to strange, creepy, unrealistic is a better description. I did use the wrong term. just flat out don't like him or Romney.
  • futiledevices
    futiledevices Posts: 309 Member
    How small minded must someone be to think that being gay affects someone serving? It's not like gay people sit around all day thinking about being gay.
  • CasperO
    CasperO Posts: 2,913 Member
    He's not running for the presidency (yet), he's running for the Republican nomination. To win that he has to win several primaries. Voters in the republican primaries are all registered republicans, and some of the most enthusiastic, most deeply conservative voters in the country. He's playing to them - his campaign has made a calculation that this will gain him support with primary voters.

    Whichever of these folks wins the nomination will move toward the middle when they run for the Presidency. We shall see.
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,786 Member
    He's not running for the presidency (yet), he's running for the Republican nomination. To win that he has to win several primaries. Voters in the republican primaries are all registered republicans, and some of the most enthusiastic, most deeply conservative voters in the country. He's playing to them - his campaign has made a calculation that this will gain him support with primary voters.

    Whichever of these folks wins the nomination will move toward the middle when they run for the Presidency. We shall see.

    EXACTLY what Casper said. If he wins the primary, remember this ad and watch how it changes when he is seeking majority vote. His views may not change, but his rhetoric certainly will.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    EXACTLY what Casper said. If he wins the primary, remember this ad and watch how it changes when he is seeking majority vote. His views may not change, but his rhetoric certainly will.

    Well, he's lost this conservative, republican, Texan's vote in the primary!
  • CasperO
    CasperO Posts: 2,913 Member
    Ok, so who can you support? All of these folks are to the right of Barry Goldwater. Richard Nixon is a pinko by today's standards. Reagan committed the nowadays unforgiveable sin and raised taxes. GWBush expanded Medicare (for the good of Pfizer, but he did expand a social program). The current crop seems pretty dang far a'starboard to me.

    I like Huntsman, but he doesn't have a prayer.
  • dragonbait0126
    dragonbait0126 Posts: 568 Member
    Must remember to watch this when I get home from work tonight. Honestly I don't like any of the Republican candidates. None of them have made a good impression on me. I just have a feeling that this is going to be one long and ugly election. More so than in past years. Did you hear about Romney's new ad? He basically calls out Newt Gingrich for being married 3 times. Apparently the ad says something like "I've been loyal to my family and church for X number of years" or something to that effect. I hate political mud-slinging.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Ok, so who can you support? All of these folks are to the right of Barry Goldwater. Richard Nixon is a pinko by today's standards. Reagan committed the nowadays unforgiveable sin and raised taxes. GWBush expanded Medicare (for the good of Pfizer, but he did expand a social program). The current crop seems pretty dang far a'starboard to me.

    I like Huntsman, but he doesn't have a prayer.

    I've yet to find a republican I like very much. I loved Reagan!
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    I just don't think I have ever been more disappointed by the choices I have in the political arena. Rick Perry isn't even real. He's a more extreme version of the G.W. fake cowboy routine. He's about as authentic as a rubber sex doll. Besides, anyone who throws a temper tantrum and says his state shoud secede from the Nation like he did when Obama one, should not only not be considered to be President, some one should have at least slapped the taste out of his mouth.
  • mikajoanow
    mikajoanow Posts: 584 Member
    That ad actually made me angry.
  • Bahet
    Bahet Posts: 1,254 Member
    Ron Paul is a nut but at least he's a nut who's not also an @$$hole. I didn't vote for Obama last time. I voted McCain, hoped he'd swing back towards the way he was in 2000 and prayed he'd stay alive as nothing sends fear down my spine more than the words President Palin *shudder* -- except perhaps President Bachmann. Fortunately, she doesn't stand a chance. I would vote Obama this time if he'd grow a set and stop letting the GOP bully him. Right down to the Plan B won't be OTC decision of the past day, he's just gotten way too soft. It's like he's actually afraid of those schoolyard bullies. If the POTUS can't even stand up to people like Cantor, how can he expect to command respect in the world?
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    Ron Paul is a nut but at least he's a nut who's not also an @$$hole. I didn't vote for Obama last time. I voted McCain, hoped he'd swing back towards the way he was in 2000 and prayed he'd stay alive as nothing sends fear down my spine more than the words President Palin *shudder* -- except perhaps President Bachmann. Fortunately, she doesn't stand a chance. I would vote Obama this time if he'd grow a set and stop letting the GOP bully him. Right down to the Plan B won't be OTC decision of the past day, he's just gotten way too soft. It's like he's actually afraid of those schoolyard bullies. If the POTUS can't even stand up to people like Cantor, how can he expect to command respect in the world?

    Yeah, I sort of feel the same way. I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says, but he sticks to his guns regardless of who he is debating and what crowd he is in front of, and he is the only candidate in my eyes with a consitant voting record. Other than that, I really have no praise for anyone else in this whole debacle on either side of the isle.
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    I am at a loss for who to vote for......I dont like any of my potential choices. Ick I gotta vote for somebody though so this election is going to be tough
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    Perry finally jumped the shark. So long, Champ.
  • mikajoanow
    mikajoanow Posts: 584 Member
    Americans are perplexing. We complain that Democrats are a bunch of wimps when they work with the other side. But at the same time we complain when Republicans refuse to work with Democrats Or when presidents over reach and don't let the whole of our system work itself out. We set ourselves up for a no win situation.

    I will be voting for Obama again. Too much at stake not to and I don't live in a world where I have to pretend that every choice a politician makes has to be perfect. While I have been disappointed a few times, I would be disappointed almost every single time if someone else won because I do not have the same values as a Republican and unlike Ron Paul, I don't think my rights as a woman should be up for a vote. (Just one of the many things I disagree with Paul about. He might stick to his guns, but I think his guns are broken) JMO
  • kapeluza
    kapeluza Posts: 3,434 Member
    I didn't vote for that effing moron. UGH
  • LuckyLeprechaun
    LuckyLeprechaun Posts: 6,296 Member
    I didn't vote for that effing moron. UGH

    I cried on election night, when I was watching the numbers and realized that with the addition of California's electoral votes, it was done. I knew what we were in for....
  • CasperO
    CasperO Posts: 2,913 Member
    Yep, it's been a long 3 years. One group trying to get the world working again, and another group trying to win the 2012 election.
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    I tend to be pessimistic about america's future, but there is a little bit of me that actually hopes Obama does get re-elected. Not that I think he's done all that great of a job, but just so the people who voted Bush in for a 2nd term know that absolute bewilderment and anger that the rest of us felt.
  • CasperO
    CasperO Posts: 2,913 Member
    Hear hear,,,

    Also, when your kid holds his breath to get what he wants, you don't do anybody a favor by giving him what he wants. And when half of the leaders declare the other half illegitimate and devote all their efforts to destroying the 'enemy' - and prove that they are willing to crash the world economy (again!) to win political power - you do not put them back in charge.
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    Hear hear,,,

    Also, when your kid holds his breath to get what he wants, you don't do anybody a favor by giving him what he wants. And when half of the leaders declare the other half illegitimate and devote all their efforts to destroying the 'enemy' - and prove that they are willing to crash the world economy (again!) to win political power - you do not put them back in charge.

    Yup.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    I don't understand why there isn't more outrage over this ad. If the word "gays" had been replaced with "blacks" or "women", the public would be in an uproar. Why is this okay? He's pretty much getting on national television and denouncing the service of our troops who happen to be homosexual.

    How in the world did he (or his PR people) think that was a good ad????? I don't even see how that issue fits at all into his ad.

    Have you seen any of the republican debates? When you have an audience that boos gay soldiers serving on active duty and cheers when people die because they have no health insurance, no level of mean-spirited bigotry is too low.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Ok, so who can you support? All of these folks are to the right of Barry Goldwater. Richard Nixon is a pinko by today's standards. Reagan committed the nowadays unforgiveable sin and raised taxes. GWBush expanded Medicare (for the good of Pfizer, but he did expand a social program). The current crop seems pretty dang far a'starboard to me.

    I like Huntsman, but he doesn't have a prayer.

    I've yet to find a republican I like very much. I loved Reagan!

    Ironic to read since everything you see in today's republican party is the natural prgression/evolution of what started under the reagan administration. Whether he believed it all or not I don't know (I don't think he did either), but he enabled it.
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    I don't understand why there isn't more outrage over this ad. If the word "gays" had been replaced with "blacks" or "women", the public would be in an uproar. Why is this okay? He's pretty much getting on national television and denouncing the service of our troops who happen to be homosexual.

    How in the world did he (or his PR people) think that was a good ad????? I don't even see how that issue fits at all into his ad.

    Have you seen any of the republican debates? When you have an audience that boos gay soldiers serving on active duty and cheers when people die because they have no health insurance, no level of mean-spirited bigotry is too low.

    I love watching Republican debates and seeing who can one-up the other one with their conservatism. But I only watched the first three. It becomes apparent who is being pushed by which ever media outlet is hosting who they want to win by the sheer number of questions they will ask a "front runner" as opposed to the others, who often get dumb questions when they actually do get one.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Ron Paul is a nut but at least he's a nut who's not also an @$$hole. I didn't vote for Obama last time. I voted McCain, hoped he'd swing back towards the way he was in 2000 and prayed he'd stay alive as nothing sends fear down my spine more than the words President Palin *shudder* -- except perhaps President Bachmann. Fortunately, she doesn't stand a chance. I would vote Obama this time if he'd grow a set and stop letting the GOP bully him. Right down to the Plan B won't be OTC decision of the past day, he's just gotten way too soft. It's like he's actually afraid of those schoolyard bullies. If the POTUS can't even stand up to people like Cantor, how can he expect to command respect in the world?

    Do you really think for one second that either Mittens or Newt would command respect? '

    Recently an article appeared in Der Spiegel about the republican candidates. It was entitled: "A Club of Liars, Demagogues and Ignoramuses" -- very subtle, no?

    Here are a few choice selections:
    For months now, they've been traipsing around the country with their traveling circus, from one debate to the next, one scandal to another, putting themselves forward for what's still the most powerful job in the world.
    It's true that on the road to the White House all sorts of things can happen, and usually do. No campaign can avoid its share of slip-ups, blunders and embarrassments. Yet this time around, it's just not that funny anymore. In fact, it's utterly horrifying.
    It's horrifying because these eight so-called, would-be candidates are eagerly ruining not only their own reputations and that of their party, the party of Lincoln lore. Worse: They're ruining the reputation of the United States.
    Then there's Newt Gingrich, the current favorite. He's a political dinosaur, dishonored and discredited. Or so we thought. Yet just because he studied history and speaks in more complex sentences than his rivals, the US media now reflexively hails him as a "Man of Ideas" (The Washington Post) -- even though most of these ideas are lousy if not downright offensive ... Mr. Hypocrisy, the bearer of his party's hope.

    Oh, and Der Spiegel is considered a conservative magazine in Germany.

    Across the world I think people are as perplexed and disappointed as many Americans that Obama hasn't challenged the republicans more directly, but they still respect him a lot more than ANY republican--now or in recent memory.
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