Is what you're doing NOW working?
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I know there have been a few hook-ups via MFP. Distance is a killer for most people (like me). However, if both parties are totally feeling it and 100% committed, they can make it work.
Hooking up with someone on MFP.... I recommend it.0 -
I think it is best to marry around the 24-27 age range. The best singles are off the market after that.
Whaddya mean? I'm still on the market! :laugh:
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Hooking up with someone on MFP.... I recommend it.
Oh, if only it were that easy for all of us.... YES, PLEASE, hahaha.....:laugh:I tend to think that earlier marriage is better than later, provided that the right person is found. I think it is best to marry around the 24-27 age range. The best singles are off the market after that.
OK, DM, I am assuming you didn't mean this as bad as it sounds. I normally take everything everyone says with a grain of salt, but admittedly, this comment really bothered me. I'm not saying I'm the best single available, but I think there are still plenty of good people out there who either had other priorities in their 20s, live/ work a life and have priorities that make relationships difficult at that time, maybe that right person just didn't come around, etc...
Only speaking for myself, if your statement were true, I think most of the Single Peeps looking for a relationship are SCREWED then!0 -
I think it is best to marry around the 24-27 age range. The best singles are off the market after that.
Whaddya mean? I'm still on the market! :laugh:
He says that all the time to be flat out hurtful toward other people on this forum that he knows are single and dont feel the rush to get married by a certain point - to make them feel worse- because its not as bad as being scared because he is about to turn 30. He does this about 4 times a month- just to be mean.0 -
I have to also add... I cant wait until he DOES reach 30 and can breathe again and relax and realize that even though he isnt in his twenties any longer, he is even more lovable. And that he understands that in your twenties you always hear that you ARE lovable, but in your thirties you understand WHY you personally are lovable. I think life will be much kinder to him and he wont have such awful ugly pressure on himself anymore.0
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I have to also add... I cant wait until he DOES reach 30 and can breathe again and relax and realize that even though he isnt in his twenties any longer, he is even more lovable. And that he understands that in your twenties you always hear that you ARE lovable, but in your thirties you understand WHY you personally are lovable. I think life will be much kinder to him and he wont have such awful ugly pressure on himself anymore.
Yooves, you just get it. And I wish the same for him even though I'm not in my 30s yet either.0 -
I am on the low end of DM's spectrum so I guess that means I'm good.
But the next 3-5 years of my life will be consumed by work and school and will require a fair amount of moving from one county to the next. Which means by the time I'm 28 and settled into my amazing career there's gonna be another amazing single that's only just then looking to settle down - and I'd like to think that it'll happen when it happens and I will never let my life be determined by the pursuit for a partner. That to me is more sad than anything.
Where's some popcorn, I wanna watch this unfold!
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”0 -
I miss our old cat that died two years ago more than I miss any of my exes.
Guess that tells me what my future holds.
More pu$$y?
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I'm not looking either, necessarily.
Online dating and dating in general, is hard. I've had a few major disappointments in the last few years that have put me off of "the process." I wish someone would have told me that it was best to meet my dude in college and get it out of the way. Seems like the only people I know who are in serious relationships or married met their SO in college or even in high school. I didn't get that priority memo...
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It would be interesting to see the statistics on marriages that spawn from relationships at this age vs maybe ones in their 30s.
I've actually read that the younger the couple is when they get married, the more likely they are to divorce. But then, I've also read that the older a woman is, the less likely she is to marry at all. So it's kind of a weird catch-22 for us ladies. And to be fair, I have seen some couples of my acquaintance that married right out of college get divorced already, and I'm only 27. I'd definitely rather be a never-married single right now than divorced.
I perceive there's a sweet spot. Too young causes problems (for both men and women). If a person waits too long, they may end up single forever (for both men and women).
I tend to think that earlier marriage is better than later, provided that the right person is found. I think it is best to marry around the 24-27 age range. The best singles are off the market after that. But, if the right fit can't be found around that time, I feel that it is better to never marry than be a divorcee. If one is a divorcee, it is better to be a divorcee without children that a divorcee with children. When you are a divorcee without children (this goes for both sexes), you're more able to easily be perceived as desirable when dating post divorce. There's less of a chance for a messy entanglement. I am open to dating a woman who has been divorced if she has no kids, but it's not my first preference.
So the best singles out there are between 24-27, huh? Interesting. So I guess at 33 I'm so not even worth dating. I'll let my boyfriend of 31 know that so he can be free to trade me in for a newer model. Seriously dude? I didn't even know myself until I hit 30, how in the world would I know who would make a good match for me if I didn't know who I was? Maybe I'm a late bloomer, but I'm a much better catch at 33 than I was at 23. At 23 I was a hot mess...0 -
I am legitimately scared to be turning 30 in 2013 because I'm not real pleased with how my 20s have unfolded in a number of different facets of my life.
But just because I am legitimately scared, I do not let that cloud my own judgment and analysis.
I just see the merit of finding your soulmate sooner and moving on to other stuff in life. Being unmarried, and especially not in a relationship with expected permanence and/or a solid foundation feels like extended adolescence to me, which is not a desirable feeling. I see finding your soulmate as the bell shaped curve of a normal distribution. More likely to happen in the middle parts than too early or too late.0 -
You simply cannot say that it is better to allign yourself with someone in your twenties than in your thirties or forties, when you are NOT one of the people that has experienced dating at those ages.
if you were forty and said that- i would respect your opinion and ask more.
but because you have never been here (where its blue skies and calm hormones and horny women and smooth sailing) you cannot be taken seriously as having an informed opinion.
Its like me saying that Disney World is better than Disney Land because Ive only been to Disney World and never Disney Land.0 -
I am legitimately scared to be turning 30 in 2013 because I'm not real pleased with how my 20s have unfolded in a number of different facets of my life.
But just because I am legitimately scared, I do not let that cloud my own judgment and analysis.
I just see the merit of finding your soulmate sooner and moving on to other stuff in life. Being unmarried, and especially not in a relationship with expected permanence and/or a solid foundation feels like extended adolescence to me, which is not a desirable feeling. I see finding your soulmate as the bell shaped curve of a normal distribution. More likely to happen in the middle parts than too early or too late.
I see your point... and I don't. Adolescence, to me, means you are reliant on others because you can't take care of yourself. Just because you are single doesn't mean you don't go to work, pay your bills, take care of your pets, keep your own house and enjoy life. To me that sounds like the definition of being an adult. I quite enjoy the company of my friends, family, self and pets. I have no real drive to find a partner to fill a hole that doesn't exist (figurative hole, not literal, of course. Haha, I'm an adult).
I don't know what it is that makes you so unhappy to be alone. You're a cool dude, I like how you are forthright and blunt. But comments like this just make me so sad for you. I can't imagine how empty life must feel for someone so attached to some arbitrary number that doesn't define your worth. In fact, this fear may be what is keeping you from finding something that is a good match for you because you're so clinical about finding a mate. That's how it comes across sometimes. Like you aren't trying to find a partner you can cherish and love to be around, but a brood mare that you can impregnate which will someone make your life worth living.
I'm not mad and I hope I don't come across as though I'm trying to be hurtful because I'm not. But damn dude, check out how you manage to go from having a fanclub one day to having half a dozen women jump down your throat, hahahaaa!0 -
I miss our old cat that died two years ago more than I miss any of my exes.
Guess that tells me what my future holds.
More pu$$y?
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So the best singles out there are between 24-27, huh? Interesting. So I guess at 33 I'm so not even worth dating. I'll let my boyfriend of 31 know that so he can be free to trade me in for a newer model. Seriously dude? I didn't even know myself until I hit 30, how in the world would I know who would make a good match for me if I didn't know who I was? Maybe I'm a late bloomer, but I'm a much better catch at 33 than I was at 23. At 23 I was a hot mess...
Im 33 too and I feel exactly the same. Im 1000% sexier, happier, calmer now and most importantly - i know who the eff I am and what I want
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My dad told me not to go looking for the man I want unless Ive made myself into the kind of woman that would match him well.
That kind of woman wasnt in her twenties, she is in her thirties, with an established sexy career, balanced hormones, no biological clock messing with her brain, a full spectrum of friends, accomplishments and hard lessons learned, travelled, educated and has over 10 years running a home on a budget....
Not a tiny naive inexperienced has no idea what she is up against and about to have a major personality shift prom date
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My dad told me not to go looking for the man I want unless Ive made myself into the kind of woman that would match him well.
That kind of woman wasnt in her twenties, she is in her thirties, with an established sexy career, balanced hormones, no biological clock messing with her brain, a full spectrum of friends, accomplishments and hard lessons learned, travelled, educated and has over 10 years running a home on a budget....
Not a tiny naive inexperienced has no idea what she is up against and about to have a major personality shift prom date
Hey now, give some of us young 'uns some credit. We can be cool too!0 -
I am legitimately scared to be turning 30 in 2013 because I'm not real pleased with how my 20s have unfolded in a number of different facets of my life.
But just because I am legitimately scared, I do not let that cloud my own judgment and analysis.
I just see the merit of finding your soulmate sooner and moving on to other stuff in life. Being unmarried, and especially not in a relationship with expected permanence and/or a solid foundation feels like extended adolescence to me, which is not a desirable feeling. I see finding your soulmate as the bell shaped curve of a normal distribution. More likely to happen in the middle parts than too early or too late.
I see your point... and I don't. Adolescence, to me, means you are reliant on others because you can't take care of yourself. Just because you are single doesn't mean you don't go to work, pay your bills, take care of your pets, keep your own house and enjoy life. To me that sounds like the definition of being an adult. I quite enjoy the company of my friends, family, self and pets. I have no real drive to find a partner to fill a hole that doesn't exist (figurative hole, not literal, of course. Haha, I'm an adult).
I don't know what it is that makes you so unhappy to be alone. You're a cool dude, I like how you are forthright and blunt. But comments like this just make me so sad for you. I can't imagine how empty life must feel for someone so attached to some arbitrary number that doesn't define your worth. In fact, this fear may be what is keeping you from finding something that is a good match for you because you're so clinical about finding a mate. That's how it comes across sometimes. Like you aren't trying to find a partner you can cherish and love to be around, but a brood mare that you can impregnate which will someone make your life worth living.
I'm not mad and I hope I don't come across as though I'm trying to be hurtful because I'm not. But damn dude, check out how you manage to go from having a fanclub one day to having half a dozen women jump down your throat, hahahaaa!
I've been a bit unnerved by a rash of marriages in the last 2-3 years at the periphery of my social circle. None of my core friends are married, and none will probably be in the next 1-2 years.
I really like what you say about me.
Funny how you talk about brood mares, because brood mares are not a life goal for me.
I would prefer to be done with single life and having moved on to something else.
Adolescence, as I see it, is a period where you exhibit some adult qualities, but are not a full adult. I feel at times (not all the time) as if I am in a limbo stage. As a child, I saw examples of adults, and I don't see myself as the adult as I saw examples of as a kid.0 -
My dad told me not to go looking for the man I want unless Ive made myself into the kind of woman that would match him well.
That kind of woman wasnt in her twenties, she is in her thirties, with an established sexy career, balanced hormones, no biological clock messing with her brain, a full spectrum of friends, accomplishments and hard lessons learned, travelled, educated and has over 10 years running a home on a budget....
Not a tiny naive inexperienced has no idea what she is up against and about to have a major personality shift prom date
Hey now, give some of us young 'uns some credit. We can be cool too!
100% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was talking about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE0 -
I believe you learn a crap ton about yourself in your 30's. We aren't knocking youth - especially if you have your crap together, but I know I didn't and I think that's what Yoovie is saying. Typically women in that 24-27 age range THINK they have it all worked out, but later they learn they don't. Life constantly teaches you things if you allow yourself to see them. In this way, I'm not afraid to get old at all because I get better and better each year!0
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I am legitimately scared to be turning 30 in 2013 because I'm not real pleased with how my 20s have unfolded in a number of different facets of my life.
But just because I am legitimately scared, I do not let that cloud my own judgment and analysis.
I just see the merit of finding your soulmate sooner and moving on to other stuff in life. Being unmarried, and especially not in a relationship with expected permanence and/or a solid foundation feels like extended adolescence to me, which is not a desirable feeling. I see finding your soulmate as the bell shaped curve of a normal distribution. More likely to happen in the middle parts than too early or too late.
I see your point... and I don't. Adolescence, to me, means you are reliant on others because you can't take care of yourself. Just because you are single doesn't mean you don't go to work, pay your bills, take care of your pets, keep your own house and enjoy life. To me that sounds like the definition of being an adult. I quite enjoy the company of my friends, family, self and pets. I have no real drive to find a partner to fill a hole that doesn't exist (figurative hole, not literal, of course. Haha, I'm an adult).
I don't know what it is that makes you so unhappy to be alone. You're a cool dude, I like how you are forthright and blunt. But comments like this just make me so sad for you. I can't imagine how empty life must feel for someone so attached to some arbitrary number that doesn't define your worth. In fact, this fear may be what is keeping you from finding something that is a good match for you because you're so clinical about finding a mate. That's how it comes across sometimes. Like you aren't trying to find a partner you can cherish and love to be around, but a brood mare that you can impregnate which will someone make your life worth living.
I'm not mad and I hope I don't come across as though I'm trying to be hurtful because I'm not. But damn dude, check out how you manage to go from having a fanclub one day to having half a dozen women jump down your throat, hahahaaa!
I've been a bit unnerved by a rash of marriages in the last 2-3 years at the periphery of my social circle. None of my core friends are married, and none will probably be in the next 1-2 years.
I really like what you say about me.
Funny how you talk about brood mares, because brood mares are not a life goal for me.
I would prefer to be done with single life and having moved on to something else.
Adolescence, as I see it, is a period where you exhibit some adult qualities, but are not a full adult. I feel at times (not all the time) as if I am in a limbo stage. As a child, I saw examples of adults, and I don't see myself as the adult as I saw examples of as a kid.
Then I think that, once again, you are using your opinions as a broad brush stroke in how people should live their lives. Your preferences and experiences do not belong to everyone, yet you have a tendency (and I've said this before) to word your statements as undeniable fact.0 -
Then I think that, once again, you are using your opinions as a broad brush stroke in how people should live their lives. Your preferences and experiences do not belong to everyone, yet you have a tendency (and I've said this before) to word your statements as undeniable fact.
The statement that got the most people riled up that I made in the thread was preceded by the words "I think". "I think" is a statement of opinion, not a declarative statement as undeniable fact.0 -
Then I think that, once again, you are using your opinions as a broad brush stroke in how people should live their lives. Your preferences and experiences do not belong to everyone, yet you have a tendency (and I've said this before) to word your statements as undeniable fact.
The statement that got the most people riled up that I made in the thread was preceded by the words "I think". "I think" is a statement of opinion, not a declarative statement as undeniable fact.
You're doing what most other people do on here, you are simply stating your personal opinion. You just said that a lot of the best women are off the market by the time they are in their late 20's. I know a lot of awesome women who married between the ages of 25-28, so I agree with you. Do I think there are some great catches who are in their 30's, 40's, and 50's.. of course I do.
I think the natural response on forums is to attack when they don't agree with people's opinion. I've stated my personal opinion on a number of subjects here and have been met with the same reaction.0 -
Then I think that, once again, you are using your opinions as a broad brush stroke in how people should live their lives. Your preferences and experiences do not belong to everyone, yet you have a tendency (and I've said this before) to word your statements as undeniable fact.
The statement that got the most people riled up that I made in the thread was preceded by the words "I think". "I think" is a statement of opinion, not a declarative statement as undeniable fact.
You're doing what most other people do on here, you are simply stating your personal opinion. You just said that a lot of the best women are off the market by the time they are in their late 20's. I know a lot of awesome women who married between the ages of 25-28, so I agree with you. Do I think there are some great catches who are in their 30's, 40's, and 50's.. of course I do.
I think the natural response on forums is to attack when they don't agree with people's opinion. I've stated my personal opinion on a number of subjects here and have been met with the same reaction.
Mike, we're pretty aligned on thinking here, and on many other threads. There are good catches above the mid-late 20s age cohort. But, the degree of difficulty would appear to increase in finding the good catches.0 -
Then I think that, once again, you are using your opinions as a broad brush stroke in how people should live their lives. Your preferences and experiences do not belong to everyone, yet you have a tendency (and I've said this before) to word your statements as undeniable fact.
The statement that got the most people riled up that I made in the thread was preceded by the words "I think". "I think" is a statement of opinion, not a declarative statement as undeniable fact.
You're doing what most other people do on here, you are simply stating your personal opinion. You just said that a lot of the best women are off the market by the time they are in their late 20's. I know a lot of awesome women who married between the ages of 25-28, so I agree with you. Do I think there are some great catches who are in their 30's, 40's, and 50's.. of course I do.
I think the natural response on forums is to attack when they don't agree with people's opinion. I've stated my personal opinion on a number of subjects here and have been met with the same reaction.
Mike, we're pretty aligned on thinking here, and on many other threads. There are good catches above the mid-late 20s age cohort. But, the degree of difficulty would appear to increase in finding the good catches.
"I think it is best to marry around the 24-27 age range. The best singles are off the market after that."
The declarative nature of the second statement is what got everyone riled up, I believe. It comes across as "I think it's best to get married while desirable people are still single" which comes across as "If you are older than 27 no one will ever want you", which as you can see might offend some people.
I have been guilty of misspeaking and no one spelling out what I've done wrong (just calling me a man-hating ***** every now and then leaving me very, very confused), so I'm trying to do that for you here.0 -
Women in their 20's certainly have a huge advantage in the dating game. Men who are in their 20's, 30's, and 40's compete for their attention.
A women in her 30's will have men in their 40's and 50's competing for them (30-something men are still chasing the 20-something women). A women in her 40's will most likely be chased by men in their 50's and 60's (40-something man would definitely want a 30-something woman).
As a women gets older, their dating pool shrinks considerably. There are still plenty of great catches for older women, but most have been divorced once or twice or are very, very set in their ways.
I know I'm going to catch a lot of crap, but this is my personal observation.
*note: I throw a monkey wrench into all of this because I have no problem dating older, but I am definitely in the minority when it comes to that.0 -
Gosh you guys are depressing!!
*member of the DM fan Club"0 -
Gosh you guys are depressing!!
*member of the DM fan Club"
Wait, who is depressing?0 -
"I think it is best to marry around the 24-27 age range. The best singles are off the market after that."
The declarative nature of the second statement is what got everyone riled up, I believe. It comes across as "I think it's best to get married while desirable people are still single" which comes across as "If you are older than 27 no one will ever want you", which as you can see might offend some people.
I have been guilty of misspeaking and no one spelling out what I've done wrong (just calling me a man-hating ***** every now and then leaving me very, very confused), so I'm trying to do that for you here.
I took what DM said in a different way. It always seems that women are concerned about finding their ideal guy. Someone who's charming, kind, successful, good looking, etc etc. And that a women's best chance at catching a guy like is when she is in her early 20's. Only because younger women are very heavily sought after in the dating game.
I know I'm painting with a broad brush stroke, but I have to agree a little with what DM is saying.0 -
Gosh you guys are depressing!!
*member of the DM fan Club"
Wait, who is depressing?
David and Mike!0 -
I've never done online dating (kinda creeps me out a bit lol) but I have had some interest from the opposite sex when I go out or meet new people. The thing is, it's never the ones I'm also interested in lol so until then I will just keep doing what I'm doing and hope that one of those times is mutual haha0
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