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12 Steps... Impossible for Atheists?

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  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    edited February 2015
    Yes... court ordered attendance at a religious gathering is a big concern of mine. I've never been in that situation and never plan to be. However, if it should happen, I definitely would plan to appeal.
  • Azuriaz
    Azuriaz Posts: 785 Member
    This is old and this forum seems awfully quiet, but I'll chime in anyway:

    An AA member once told me her 'higher power' was herself. Just a part of herself she wasn't in touch with who was more capable than the self she walked around as every day.

    I'm not sure I have such a self, but I can cope with the concept if I'm ever court ordered to AA or any of its spin-offs, not that it's likely. At least the higher power as higher self is empowering, whether it's true or not.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Azuriaz wrote: »
    This is old and this forum seems awfully quiet, but I'll chime in anyway:

    An AA member once told me her 'higher power' was herself. Just a part of herself she wasn't in touch with who was more capable than the self she walked around as every day.

    I'm not sure I have such a self, but I can cope with the concept if I'm ever court ordered to AA or any of its spin-offs, not that it's likely. At least the higher power as higher self is empowering, whether it's true or not.

    Groups overall seem to be quite inactive since the software upgrade almost a year ago.

    I've heard that same thing before... the "higher power" is oneself. But I don't think that highly of myself.
  • Azuriaz
    Azuriaz Posts: 785 Member
    midwesterner85 wrote: »
    Azuriaz wrote: »
    This is old and this forum seems awfully quiet, but I'll chime in anyway:

    An AA member once told me her 'higher power' was herself. Just a part of herself she wasn't in touch with who was more capable than the self she walked around as every day.

    I'm not sure I have such a self, but I can cope with the concept if I'm ever court ordered to AA or any of its spin-offs, not that it's likely. At least the higher power as higher self is empowering, whether it's true or not.

    Groups overall seem to be quite inactive since the software upgrade almost a year ago.

    I've heard that same thing before... the "higher power" is oneself. But I don't think that highly of myself.

    Me either, but it beats thinking highly of a doorknob or some invisible best friend who shoots lightning bolts at the recalcitrant!
  • firephoenix8
    firephoenix8 Posts: 102 Member
    From what I've heard and read, AA actually has a rather abysmal track record of actually working. So personally I while I celebrate with anyone it works for, I don't think if it as the only way forward.
  • toutmonpossible
    toutmonpossible Posts: 1,580 Member
    The feminist critique of the 12 steps is that it's not a good guide for women either because women frequently are too passive. Asking them to surrender to a higher power is more of the same.
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