Deadlifts

Babsvii
Babsvii Posts: 177 Member
edited January 12 in Social Groups
Last week i tried Deadlifts for the first time ever... i know how to squat as i do a lot of that... but the next day my lower back was super tight and sore... I have really strong legs and didnt feel it so much in the legs as i did in the back... could i have been doing it wrong? should i feel it in the back? i watched all the videos and i dont have the means of a trainer as i workout at home and live in the country... also i was lifting about 75lbs and this included the bar. i did 10 sets 8 reps each time.... really have no clue how much i should be doing... from what i have been reading since i should be doing less reps and less sets with higher weights? anyone have any advice for me?
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  • Bardane
    Bardane Posts: 60 Member
    I am just starting with dead lift, so I will be interested to see what more knowledgable people have to say. I have a very unstable back and never feel it in my lower back which is where my issues are. Always in my glutes and hamstrings and upper back a little. My trainer is very big on getting my technique right before I start to lift heavy because of my joint/back issues. I do mainly straight leg/romanian dead lifts though so no squatting for these.

    Mind you I am only lifting 40kgs at present, but having a trainer to help with technique has made a big difference. Is it possible for you to get a lesson at a gym at all?
  • _the_feniks_
    _the_feniks_ Posts: 3,412 Member
    Without seeing you do them, my guess would be that you allowed your back to round a little. Keep your chest up so that your back remains straight through the bottom of each rep.
  • Babsvii
    Babsvii Posts: 177 Member
    Thanks for the advice.

    Going to a gym is not possible for me i live in the country and the closest gym is 2 hours away LOL

    im taking a rest day tomorrow but will try again on sat and focus on keeping my back more straight.
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    If you have never deadlifted before and did 10 sets of 8 reps your lower back is going to be sore.

    As far as your form goes, can't say anything without a video.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    If you have never deadlifted before and did 10 sets of 8 reps your lower back is going to be sore.

    As far as your form goes, can't say anything without a video.

    ^ all of this.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i avoid dead lifts
  • PomegranatePriestess
    PomegranatePriestess Posts: 2,455 Member
    I agree with Hendrix and SideSteel, but will add that along with keeping your back flat, you should keep the bar close to your legs as you pull up.

    My trainer had me do five sets of five reps each set yesterday; I haven't done deadlifts with anything but kettlebells in a few years and my back is fine today. My sets went up from 115 to 150 lbs.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    If you have never deadlifted before and did 10 sets of 8 reps your lower back is going to be sore.

    As far as your form goes, can't say anything without a video.

    ^ all of this.

    ^^yep.

    My back is usually very tight after as I seem to retain a lot of water in my low back after my deadlifting sessions.

    Here are some resources re form: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/852401-proper-form-and-technique-sources
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    i avoid dead lifts

    Why? They are excellent as long as you keep your form right.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i'm not good at them
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike
  • extraordinary_machine
    extraordinary_machine Posts: 3,028 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    Aren't you the dude that also posted, "no one cares" in the "lift heavy/not bulky" thread? If you're so against lifting, quit posting on these threads. *smh*
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    Aren't you the dude that also posted, "no one cares" in the "lift heavy/not bulky" thread? If you're so against lifting, quit posting on these threads. *smh*

    who said i was against lifting, i lift 5 days a week
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Lets try to keep this civil please and thanks.
  • SteveJWatson
    SteveJWatson Posts: 1,225 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.

    Well i try to wor leg stuff into my routine, but since i sit at a desk all day for my job (IT) i don't have the time or the room to walk it off and i really like to run so i guess that's why i don't really do leg stuff
  • extraordinary_machine
    extraordinary_machine Posts: 3,028 Member
    Sorry, SS.

    My apologies to kyleo, I inferred that you were against it due to the disdain that you showed to the women who were posting pictures in the first thread I referenced and then your "tone" in this thread regarding how deadlifts would interfere with your running/biking.

    OP, when I first started dead lifting, I had some soreness, but not in my lower back. As previous posters have mentioned, it's hard to see if it's a form thing without video. For myself, I've tried to watch as many videos on form as well as read up on it, in order to make sure that my form is on target. I'm 5 pounds from lifting my body weight and I don't really feel any stiffness or soreness in my lower back.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    Sorry, SS.

    My apologies to kyleo, I inferred that you were against it due to the disdain that you showed to the women who were posting pictures in the first thread I referenced and then your "tone" in this thread regarding how deadlifts would interfere with your running/biking.

    OP, when I first started dead lifting, I had some soreness, but not in my lower back. As previous posters have mentioned, it's hard to see if it's a form thing without video. For myself, I've tried to watch as many videos on form as well as read up on it, in order to make sure that my form is on target. I'm 5 pounds from lifting my body weight and I don't really feel any stiffness or soreness in my lower back.

    not a problem , i guess it seemed that way. I just don't think i could ever do dead lifts because i really don't know what the forms looks like. everyone says to do it differently
  • LoraF83
    LoraF83 Posts: 15,694 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.

    Well i try to wor leg stuff into my routine, but since i sit at a desk all day for my job (IT) i don't have the time or the room to walk it off and i really like to run so i guess that's why i don't really do leg stuff

    That's an interesting take on lifting vs. cardio. I find the exact opposite to be true - my running and spinning has improved because I work my legs so much. And I sit at a desk all day long too.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.

    Well i try to wor leg stuff into my routine, but since i sit at a desk all day for my job (IT) i don't have the time or the room to walk it off and i really like to run so i guess that's why i don't really do leg stuff

    That's an interesting take on lifting vs. cardio. I find the exact opposite to be true - my running and spinning has improved because I work my legs so much. And I sit at a desk all day long too.

    I don't work them that much, because when i do i get sore. It's pretty much my fault for that so i should stop B*tching
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.

    Well i try to wor leg stuff into my routine, but since i sit at a desk all day for my job (IT) i don't have the time or the room to walk it off and i really like to run so i guess that's why i don't really do leg stuff

    That's an interesting take on lifting vs. cardio. I find the exact opposite to be true - my running and spinning has improved because I work my legs so much. And I sit at a desk all day long too.

    I don't work them that much, because when i do i get sore. It's pretty much my fault for that so i should stop B*tching

    Woah woah woah- If you do them with regularity, you won't get sore much.

    I have shaved ~15% off my average mile time in the last year with regular lifting- strong, well conditioned legs move FAST! I run a lot- but I always schedule my longer runs the day before lifting, and then have the day after lifting to rest (or do a short 'shake-the-dust-off' run).
  • evdenapoli
    evdenapoli Posts: 164 Member
    Um.. I did a dead lift wednesday.. I do it with Dumbells.. and I felt nothing. Either it's because i'm not usiing heavy eanough weights? or doing it wrong.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Um.. I did a dead lift wednesday.. I do it with Dumbells.. and I felt nothing. Either it's because i'm not usiing heavy eanough weights? or doing it wrong.

    DOMS is not necessarily indicative of a good workout. If you are struggling on the last couple of reps to keep your form you are pretty much going heavy enough.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.

    Well i try to wor leg stuff into my routine, but since i sit at a desk all day for my job (IT) i don't have the time or the room to walk it off and i really like to run so i guess that's why i don't really do leg stuff

    That's an interesting take on lifting vs. cardio. I find the exact opposite to be true - my running and spinning has improved because I work my legs so much. And I sit at a desk all day long too.

    I don't work them that much, because when i do i get sore. It's pretty much my fault for that so i should stop B*tching

    Woah woah woah- If you do them with regularity, you won't get sore much.

    I have shaved ~15% off my average mile time in the last year with regular lifting- strong, well conditioned legs move FAST! I run a lot- but I always schedule my longer runs the day before lifting, and then have the day after lifting to rest (or do a short 'shake-the-dust-off' run).

    ^^she runs like a cyclone also.

    Some level of soreness is pretty common. As Bean says, you can plan to mitigate/work around the soreness.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    i'm not good at them

    As they say...practice makes perfect :smile:

    well i guess to clarify, i pretty much skip anything to do with my legs other than running. I don't work my legs because then i can't run or bike

    I do a bit of legwork - squats etc and my circuits contain a lot of leg stuff - lunges, sprints, box jumps etc etc

    I also spend all day on my feet, more or less. Dont see how one affects the other - if your legs are sore, just walk it off.

    Well i try to wor leg stuff into my routine, but since i sit at a desk all day for my job (IT) i don't have the time or the room to walk it off and i really like to run so i guess that's why i don't really do leg stuff

    That's an interesting take on lifting vs. cardio. I find the exact opposite to be true - my running and spinning has improved because I work my legs so much. And I sit at a desk all day long too.

    I don't work them that much, because when i do i get sore. It's pretty much my fault for that so i should stop B*tching

    Woah woah woah- If you do them with regularity, you won't get sore much.

    I have shaved ~15% off my average mile time in the last year with regular lifting- strong, well conditioned legs move FAST! I run a lot- but I always schedule my longer runs the day before lifting, and then have the day after lifting to rest (or do a short 'shake-the-dust-off' run).

    I run alot too, but i don't work out when i am sore, so if my legs are sore and it's leg days, i skip it
  • blues4miles
    blues4miles Posts: 1,481 Member
    hey thekyleo - I run 4-5 days a week and lift weights 3 days a week, including some leg work! You can do it!

    If anything I've noticed running is really great for loosening everything up the day after a lift day. But I also only have 1 or maybe 2 hard/speed/tempo type runs in a week. I try to keep all the other ones easy or at least mid-level effort, or just do longer runs where I am sort of forced to go at an easier pace.

    Also I just did 3 sets of 8 deadlifts last night at 90 lbs (doing NROLW). Might not be up to the same numbers many of you are at, but that is a new record for me! :drinker: LOVE the deadlifts! My legs are sore today, but it is because lunges. Ugh I hate lunges. But I will keep doing them anyways, since they are good for my legs.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    hey thekyleo - I run 4-5 days a week and lift weights 3 days a week, including some leg work! You can do it!

    If anything I've noticed running is really great for loosening everything up the day after a lift day. But I also only have 1 or maybe 2 hard/speed/tempo type runs in a week. I try to keep all the other ones easy or at least mid-level effort, or just do longer runs where I am sort of forced to go at an easier pace.

    Also I just did 3 sets of 8 deadlifts last night at 90 lbs (doing NROLW). Might not be up to the same numbers many of you are at, but that is a new record for me! :drinker: LOVE the deadlifts! My legs are sore today, but it is because lunges. Ugh I hate lunges. But I will keep doing them anyways, since they are good for my legs.

    Well done!! Progress is progress - it is not important what someone else is doing...what is important is that you are doing the best you can and that you are making progress.

    I hate lunges also.
  • thekyleo
    thekyleo Posts: 632 Member
    hey thekyleo - I run 4-5 days a week and lift weights 3 days a week, including some leg work! You can do it!

    If anything I've noticed running is really great for loosening everything up the day after a lift day. But I also only have 1 or maybe 2 hard/speed/tempo type runs in a week. I try to keep all the other ones easy or at least mid-level effort, or just do longer runs where I am sort of forced to go at an easier pace.

    Also I just did 3 sets of 8 deadlifts last night at 90 lbs (doing NROLW). Might not be up to the same numbers many of you are at, but that is a new record for me! :drinker: LOVE the deadlifts! My legs are sore today, but it is because lunges. Ugh I hate lunges. But I will keep doing them anyways, since they are good for my legs.

    Ok call me stupid, but is deadlift for your back or legs?
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    I run alot too, but i don't work out when i am sore, so if my legs are sore and it's leg days, i skip it
    Does running make your legs sore?
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