is fruit my undoing?

Shadowknight137

One thing to keep in mind that eating fruit as a snack will spike your blood sugar, causing an insulin response...etc. So, if you're having a piece of fruit, be sure to eat some fat (and maybe protein too!) with it to help balance the blood sugar response. For example, eat cheese or almonds with your grapes (or both!), or smear some peanut butter or almond butter on your apple slices.

i've got mixed feelings on this.

On one hand - yes, fat and protein are quite satiating and could dull the later cravings for more fruit, no denying it. However, on the other hand, cheese, almonds and nut butters are *very* easy to consume, aren't very satiating and are very calorically dense - what could be a minor 300kcal splurge of grapes could become a 1000kcal splurge of grapes, cheese and nuts. i've seen it happen. Not pretty.

My advice to OP is:
-Consume starch over fruit, i.e., potatoes, carrot sticks, etc.
OR
-Go for less calorically dense fruits, like berries. A bowl of berries contains barely any calories and can be quite satiating.

I would never suggest anyone cut fruit out completely - 'tis natures candy, after all - but moderation certainly is a factor that needs to be put in place.

...also, this might come as weird, but for a little extreme end to cravings, I'd do what I call a "over-the-top-fruit-refeed". Why? Well, like i said: I get crazy over fruit, too, and in the past this has helped me and others.
Get a bag of fruit - say, four pounds of apples, or whatever fruit you're craving, and have it for dinner. Yes, dinner. make a whole meal out of it. Now, I want you to do your very best to eat all of it. Every, single bite, regardless of caloric intake - save them up for this, if you have to.
I *HIGHLY* doubt you'll even want to think about fruit in the morning. :P

babymaddux

...also, this might come as weird, but for a little extreme end to cravings, I'd do what I call a "over-the-top-fruit-refeed". Why? Well, like i said: I get crazy over fruit, too, and in the past this has helped me and others.
Get a bag of fruit - say, four pounds of apples, or whatever fruit you're craving, and have it for dinner. Yes, dinner. make a whole meal out of it. Now, I want you to do your very best to eat all of it. Every, single bite, regardless of caloric intake - save them up for this, if you have to.
I *HIGHLY* doubt you'll even want to think about fruit in the morning. :P

i wish that was my problem. i can happily eat a whole watermelon a day! grapes, strawberries, satsumas/tangerines etc - i just don't have a stop button lol.

SnicciFit

...also, this might come as weird, but for a little extreme end to cravings, I'd do what I call a "over-the-top-fruit-refeed". Why? Well, like i said: I get crazy over fruit, too, and in the past this has helped me and others.
Get a bag of fruit - say, four pounds of apples, or whatever fruit you're craving, and have it for dinner. Yes, dinner. make a whole meal out of it. Now, I want you to do your very best to eat all of it. Every, single bite, regardless of caloric intake - save them up for this, if you have to.
I *HIGHLY* doubt you'll even want to think about fruit in the morning. :P

I see what you're trying to do, but it seems like this would be a recipe for blood sugar/insulin/leptin disruption, which cause all sorts of trouble, including terrible sleep that night.

Shadowknight137

...also, this might come as weird, but for a little extreme end to cravings, I'd do what I call a "over-the-top-fruit-refeed". Why? Well, like i said: I get crazy over fruit, too, and in the past this has helped me and others.
Get a bag of fruit - say, four pounds of apples, or whatever fruit you're craving, and have it for dinner. Yes, dinner. make a whole meal out of it. Now, I want you to do your very best to eat all of it. Every, single bite, regardless of caloric intake - save them up for this, if you have to.
I *HIGHLY* doubt you'll even want to think about fruit in the morning. :P

I see what you're trying to do, but it seems like this would be a recipe for blood sugar/insulin/leptin disruption, which cause all sorts of trouble, including terrible sleep that night.

Yep.

And you won't even want to lay a finger on a fruit for a good while. Won't do any dangerous long term damage, either.

mandabrett

I'm no expert either but one thing that separates this lifsstyle from diets is that this is intended to be a journey toward health with weight loss as an added benefit. With that being said I have some fat to lose myself. I love the paleo health and fitness podcast from everyday paleo. It has dramatically changed my perspective on this topic.

AuntieKT

Great topic. I've been struggling with my fruit too. I'm like you OP i could eat 3lb of grapes NP. I used to live off apples, bananas, and oranges as snacks throughout my day to keep me from wanting snacks. I've been trying to cut back to 1 fruit a day .. but now might have to try every other day! I know a LOT of my carbs were coming from fruit though.

Good luck!

One thing to keep in mind that eating fruit as a snack will spike your blood sugar, causing an insulin response...etc. So, if you're having a piece of fruit, be sure to eat some fat (and maybe protein too!) with it to help balance the blood sugar response. For example, eat cheese or almonds with your grapes (or both!), or smear some peanut butter or almond butter on your apple slices.

I agree with this post on everything except the peanut butter... no peanut butter! They are legumes and should be avoided...at least if you are doing paleo. I'm not sure about primal, maybe they are allowed there.

SnicciFit

Great topic. I've been struggling with my fruit too. I'm like you OP i could eat 3lb of grapes NP. I used to live off apples, bananas, and oranges as snacks throughout my day to keep me from wanting snacks. I've been trying to cut back to 1 fruit a day .. but now might have to try every other day! I know a LOT of my carbs were coming from fruit though.

Good luck!

One thing to keep in mind that eating fruit as a snack will spike your blood sugar, causing an insulin response...etc. So, if you're having a piece of fruit, be sure to eat some fat (and maybe protein too!) with it to help balance the blood sugar response. For example, eat cheese or almonds with your grapes (or both!), or smear some peanut butter or almond butter on your apple slices.

I agree with this post on everything except the peanut butter... no peanut butter! They are legumes and should be avoided...at least if you are doing paleo. I'm not sure about primal, maybe they are allowed there.

I agree, I generally stay away from peanut butter, but if it's gonna get somebody to have a little fat & protein with their apple, I say "eat it!" Almond butter would be a better choice.