65,000 dollars in matchmaking?!?!
christine24t
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Did anyone hear about this guy Larry Greenfield? He's out of New York, and has spent 65,000 dollars on matchmaking services and over 250 dates. He now is blaming his matchmakers for not finding appropriate matches, while his matchmakers have said that his problem is that "he's a six and he wanted a 10...." who is a slim Jewish woman who is a "non-alpha," meaning that she isn't committed to a career.
Aye-aye-aye. What a wish list buddy.
Aye-aye-aye. What a wish list buddy.
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right, like, you shouldn't be too picky! just choose your requirements wisely!
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3 things? That's not too picky in my opinion.0
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So, did the 250 women meet his requirements but reject him? Then, too bad, Larry! If they couldn't set up a date that matched his requirements, I would say he had a fair complaint, but 250 dates (who met his requirements?) that didn't result in second dates have one common denominator.... and that's Larry.0
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one common denominator.... and that's Larry.
Yep, I don't think he liked any of the women enough to pursue things further.0 -
Sounds like a perfect formula for a romantic movie. "There's something about Larry" :laugh: Bah I shouldn't be mean. He's had 240 more dates than I have :sad:0
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"The New York Post reports that after trying six different agencies over the past 12 years — and seeing 250 women — without success, the bachelor is blasting the expensive dating services as a 'rip-off'.
But the matchmakers are firing back, saying Greenfield wants women who are simply out of his league."
Source: http://hereisthecity.com/2012/10/09/securities-trader-cant-buy-love-as-bonuses-likely-to-be-35-down/
Lots of people here don't believe in leagues, but I would agree with the matchmakers that there are leagues - and that some people just won't cut it for people with lots of qualities.
However, I think you can change leagues by improving yourself (looks, attitude, intelligence, open mindedness).
Personally, I think this guy should have invested his money in PUA training rather than matchmaking (if he wanted to invest money in the first place - which I don't even think is necessary).
PUA is taking the bull by the horns and deciding actively to improve yourself, your social skills, your understanding of women, etc. Often, PUAs will tell you you need to be confident, funny, deep (understanding, connecting with people), etc. which often lead the person to improve themselves in those areas where they are lacking (and thus going up the "league ladder").
What he is doing now seems more like "find me that perfect woman who likes me already".
On a side note, is his list of requirements: "beautiful, thin, smart, Jewish, a sense of humor and from New York — but not a woman obsessed with her career" really off the charts? I think this is the list of requirements (apart from the Jewish & New York part) that most men would have (and beautiful/smart is very subjective).0 -
I agree with Larry that he got ripped off. These matchmakers had to know that he was aiming way out of his league. They still had no problem taking his money and setting him up for failure.0
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How could someone so successful in his career not be cutting it in dating?
Larry and this woman may hit it off: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/it_check_and_mate_CGQtBM7LFyEohA6c4AqezN
I think Larry should adopt some PUA tactics, like Flimflam said.
I think there is a good possibility he's looking for something that doesn't exist, but he's not the first dater (male or female) to do that.0 -
And I think it would be the other way around... none of the women liked him enough to go on a 2nd date!one common denominator.... and that's Larry.
Yep, I don't think he liked any of the women enough to pursue things further.
I also wonder if after spending all that money, Larry seemed to think he could buy himself love? In other words, hiring the matchmaker was the equivalent of people who want a magic pill to lose weight instead of worrying about diet and exercise. There are some things in life that money and band-aids can't fix.0 -
I agree with Larry that he got ripped off. These matchmakers had to know that he was aiming way out of his league. They still had no problem taking his money and setting him up for failure.
From what I know of matchmakers they don't have a problem saying "this isn't going to work" "We are going to have a hard time finding something like this for you, don't expect anything" and people like to push forward with this fantasy that they are awesome enough to be the exception. I don't blame the matchmakers, dude probably got exactly what he asked for (in a manner of speaking).0 -
I also wonder if after spending all that money, Larry seemed to think he could buy himself love? In other words, hiring the matchmaker was the equivalent of people who want a magic pill to lose weight instead of worrying about diet and exercise. There are some things in life that money and band-aids can't fix.
I see that a lot on Millionaire Matchmaker- the millionaire thinks that because s/he’s rich s/he’s entitled to be a jerk and still get the perfect 10. Or he’s a 5 and doesn’t understand he needs to step it up to woo a 10- the money alone won’t do it.0 -
I also wonder if after spending all that money, Larry seemed to think he could buy himself love? In other words, hiring the matchmaker was the equivalent of people who want a magic pill to lose weight instead of worrying about diet and exercise. There are some things in life that money and band-aids can't fix.
I see that a lot on Millionaire Matchmaker- the millionaire thinks that because s/he’s rich s/he’s entitled to be a jerk and still get the perfect 10. Or he’s a 5 and doesn’t understand he needs to step it up to woo a 10- the money alone won’t do it.
How accurate of a portrayal is Millionaire Matchmaker though with regard to the psyche and behavior of millionaires when it comes to dating? My guess is that there's a lot we don't see. Television is produced to deliver ratings points.0 -
If the guy wanted a "10" and had $65,000 to spend, wouldn't it have made more sense to pick out a mail order bride from Russia??0
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And I think it would be the other way around... none of the women liked him enough to go on a 2nd date!one common denominator.... and that's Larry.
Yep, I don't think he liked any of the women enough to pursue things further.
I also wonder if after spending all that money, Larry seemed to think he could buy himself love? In other words, hiring the matchmaker was the equivalent of people who want a magic pill to lose weight instead of worrying about diet and exercise. There are some things in life that money and band-aids can't fix.
Yes, I think he wanted to buy love. I don't think he wanted to go out and pick up women.0 -
If the guy wanted a "10" and had $65,000 to spend, wouldn't it have made more sense to pick out a mail order bride from Russia??
Hard to find a Jewish mail order bride?0 -
Maybe his idea of beautiful is blue eyed and blonde hair and he is looking for a Jewish woman also. Most Jewish women wouldn't fit that idea of beautiful.0
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If the guy wanted a "10" and had $65,000 to spend, wouldn't it have made more sense to pick out a mail order bride from Russia??
Hard to find a Jewish mail order bride?
Get the "10" and then convert her = jewish 100 -
From Yahoo News (below), it sounds to me like his problem is expecting instant fireworks. Perhaps if he was willing to meet the women he picked from the profiles and spend a few dates to see if there's any potential, he might have developed some chemistry with one of them (and not needed to go out with 250!).
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/worlds-unluckiest-bachelor-6-matchmakers-250-dates-larry-204300594.html
"His problem is he's a six and he wanted tens," Maureen Tara Nelson, one of Greenfield's former matchmakers, tells Yahoo! Shine. She claims Greenfield chose his dates through her based on photos and profiles but still came back unsatisfied. "He'd say there was no chemistry, but he picked the women!" says Nelson. At press time, Greenfield hadn't responded to a request for comment.
The Post, however, does paint Greenfield as a bit too detail-oriented. In addition to a woman who's slim, Jewish, and funny, he wants a "non-alpha"—someone who isn't committed to a career.
In New York, that type of women is increasingly rare, according to Nelson.
"He thinks because he's wealthy he could get a beautiful women, but what he doesn't realize is that beautiful women in New York are also already successful."
Maxine Gordon, a 44-year-old comedian set up with Greenfield, echoes that sentiment.
"I think he's looking for something that doesn't exist: a gorgeous, talented, Jewish woman like Natalie Portman, except 'I stay at home; I'm here to put on your slippers and clean your room,' " Gordon told The Post, after her first (and last) date with Greenfield. "He's looking for love at first sight, and everyone has imperfections. Talk to someone. Get to know them."0 -
From a pure financial standpoint, this guy should have cut his losses on matchmaking services long before he ran up $65,000 worth of costs. The guy is really rich and perceives $65,000 much differently than the vast majority of people.
He could have gotten a better ROI in other ways.
Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.0 -
Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.
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Why should what? Please clarify.0
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Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.
Why should?
I think DM means that they should have an advantage because they're wealthy and that should make them more attractive to women, and they can take you out on really nice dates, and you know they'd be able to afford a nice life for you two should you date and marry.0 -
Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.
Why should?
I think DM means that they should have an advantage because they're wealthy and that should make them more attractive to women, and they can take you out on really nice dates, and you know they'd be able to afford a nice life for you two should you date and marry.
Does not compute... lol. I want to date someone for who they are, not their wallet.0 -
He must have serious issues if he hasn't been able to find someone after all this, especially given his financial status, which many women would find very attractive. I would love to hear more from the women he's gone out with!0
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Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.
Why should?
I think DM means that they should have an advantage because they're wealthy and that should make them more attractive to women, and they can take you out on really nice dates, and you know they'd be able to afford a nice life for you two should you date and marry.
Does not compute... lol. I want to date someone for who they are, not their wallet.
It is kind of like the crazy hot scale some guys use. Some women use the poor hot scale. The hotter they are the less rich they have to be, the less attractive the more rich.
I am in no way saying all women do this but enough of them do that it is a valid point since some women see money = security.0 -
He must have serious issues if he hasn't been able to find someone after all this, especially given his financial status, which many women would find very attractive. I would love to hear more from the women he's gone out with!
There are many gold diggers out there that should have like him! So the fact none of them liked him is saying something!0 -
I was curious to see what he looked like. Here he is. Larry Greenfield from the topic. 0 -
I was curious to see what he looked like. Here he is. Larry Greenfield from the topic.
Honestly, when I saw that I didn't think anything f it... until I realized who he was and it made me go "Eeewwwwww GROSS!"
Literally his stupidity turned me off more than his appearance did.0 -
I honestly can't think of a way to spend a large amount of money on a date and not look like a creeper haha. First date limo? That's a little weird. Trip to a place? Even stranger. First dates in my opinion should be 50 bucks. Dinner at a place that isn't too romantic and pressure packed (like and Applebee's or chilis) maybe a movie too. If you first date them to a romantic/over the top nice place it puts off 1 thing very distinctly, desperation. Just my opinion. For the record my favorite first date was around 20 bucks. Was it the things I bought that made it nice? No. It was the laughing and gunuine fun we had.Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.
Why should?
I think DM means that they should have an advantage because they're wealthy and that should make them more attractive to women, and they can take you out on really nice dates, and you know they'd be able to afford a nice life for you two should you date and marry.
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So in this day and age, is anyone here *really* arguing that money isn't an advantage? A bonus?
It is kind of like the crazy hot scale some guys use. Some women use the poor hot scale. The hotter they are the less rich they have to be, the less attractive the more rich.
Does not compute... lol. I want to date someone for who they are, not their wallet.
I think DM means that they should have an advantage because they're wealthy and that should make them more attractive to women, and they can take you out on really nice dates, and you know they'd be able to afford a nice life for you two should you date and marry.
Why should?Rich guys should have an advantage in the dating game, but technique still matters.
I am in no way saying all women do this but enough of them do that it is a valid point since some women see money = security.
Or in plain terms, imagine:
- Me, with $30,000,
- Me, with $500,000
Guess who should have an advantage in the dating game? The "me" who can afford more stuff or the one who can afford less stuff (means: clothes, gifts, travels, relaxation massage, haircut, restaurants and more). The great thing is that when you can afford more, you can still afford less (so I could still pretend I only have $30,000).
Oh no, I get it now. It's probably because rich people are horrible, egocentric b@stards and us, poor people, at least we stick together, right?
TL;DR: Yes, someone with more money should be at an advantage in the dating game.0
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