Not food related, but what are your thoughts on Vibrams??

So when I first started the gym, a few guys had on these SERIOUSLY ugly shoes. I've come to learn (a while ago) that they are Vibram FiveFingers these guys were wearing and I've heard Mark Sisson talk about the benefits of the shoes etc. I've also visited the website and looked at the products, but has anyone here actually used them?

I'm just not sure I can justify the price for the "benefits". Thoughts and experiences?
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  • ginnyntonic
    ginnyntonic Posts: 28 Member
    I have a pair that I bought after getting all excited reading Born to Run but I can't say that I think they are really worth the money. You can probably get a very similar effect just by wearing a pair of converse or another athletic shoe with a thin sole.
  • aliciap412
    aliciap412 Posts: 170 Member
    I was sold on the benefits of them so I went to my local running shoe store to get fitted and try them on. They really are hideous. I was willing to overlook how hideous they are, but they are also very hard to get on and off, especially with my petite little toes. It took me like 5 minutes to squeeze each toe in and then I just couldn't get over how ugly they were.

    I went with the next best thing - New Balance has a minimalist shoe with a Vibram bottom yet they are not toe shoes. The sole of the shoe is actually the exact same bottom as Vibram Five Fingers, even has a little Vibram logo on it. I loved these shoes and wore them daily for a while.

    Within a few months of wearing them daily, I developed a joint/arthritic pain where my big toe meets the rest of my foot. I am not sure what to blame, but I stopped wearing my NB minimal shoes and went back to my good ol' Nikes and my pretty new Reeboks for when I'm not working out (I was about to say dressed up, but I don't do that, I just wear nicer fitness clothes lol). The pain has gone away.

    So I'm not sure if I would recommend the shoe that I went with as an alternative, since I developed a pain while wearing them. Who knows though, that pain could be unrelated to the shoe.
  • MikeFlyMike
    MikeFlyMike Posts: 639 Member
    I totally "get" the idea and concept - but just am too worried about how stupid I would look in public. So.. I do try to be barefoot as much as possible around the house and during the summer. Plus when I workout I use New Balance Minimus Zeros - which have the sole made by (or licensed from) vibram. They don't have individual toe pockets - but are a very minimalist sole. I run in the them, lift in them, crossfit and kickbox in them. Take a little getting used to because of the lack of "protection" and "support" but I really have grown to like them.
  • strychnine7
    strychnine7 Posts: 210 Member
    I've never used the Vibrams. I have two different sets of Merrells ("True Gloves" and "Tough Gloves"), though, and I would recommend them. I'm probably going to buy a pair of their "Trail Gloves" at some point. A note about the True Gloves: They dug the hell out of my heels when I first got them. They're fine now that they are broken in, but if you get a pair, be prepared for it.
  • aliciap412
    aliciap412 Posts: 170 Member
    I totally "get" the idea and concept - but just am too worried about how stupid I would look in public. So.. I do try to be barefoot as much as possible around the house and during the summer. Plus when I workout I use New Balance Minimus Zeros - which have the sole made by (or licensed from) vibram. They don't have individual toe pockets - but are a very minimalist sole. I run in the them, lift in them, crossfit and kickbox in them. Take a little getting used to because of the lack of "protection" and "support" but I really have grown to like them.


    Thats the one I was talking about!

    No foot pain for you after wearing them often?
  • climberchic
    climberchic Posts: 83 Member
    Personally, I think they are amazing. I've had two foot surgeries and after my second I could not find shoes that would not hurt. I did some research and found the vibrams. (Several years ago) they are great. I run in them, play softball, kayak, work out. They are so dynamic. I do have running shoes for distance as you really have to work up to distance in these shoes. They allow you to use so many tiny muscles and ligaments that are otherwise restricted in regular footwear. If you go for walk the first day for a mile, your calves may be screaming at you the next two days. I recommend. :)
  • AllanMisner
    AllanMisner Posts: 4,140 Member
    I've been considering some minimalist shoes for my leg days (squats). I think my running shoes are robbing my lifts.

    I have wide feet. Are they cut more like Nike's or New Balance shoes? Do they come in wider cuts?
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
    I love just being barefoot. I would probably love vibrams as long as they didn't irritate my toes. However, I have determined that they are probably pretty useless here in the Arctic so I haven't invested in a pair yet. I do wear minimalistic type footwear though. For instance, rubber boots, shoes with barely any sole and I wear Inuit type footwear which have animal skin soles-they are the best.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    Have them, love them. Won't wear anything else unless I'm getting dressed up. Even my dog's vet and their staff wear them. I even wear them to work every day.

    It does take some practice to get them on easily, but after a while, you can start doing it even without hands.

    As for how they look, whether they're "hideous" or not depends on what you're considering "hideous" about them. If it's the color, then there are a bunch of models that are black on black or similar not-neon combinations. New Balance has some pretty hideous shoes that are the same shade of blue and orange as a highlighter, too, if you ask me. If it's because of the toes...well...that's about like walking into Victoria Secret and not liking that they sell lingerie. That said, I'd again recommend checking out the low-contrast colored ones (such as the black-on-black), which make the toe boxes less noticeable.

    The last pair I had were black-on-black colored. I got a few comments, when people actually had time to really look at them and see that they had toes. However, when I got my new pair, which are green on grey and show the toes a lot more, I got a lot more comments and questions about them (most people are curious about them, though it's fun to hear the reactions from my son's classmates who are all around 3 years old).

    And with price, well, I'm not sure what the people who are saying they're expensive are buying otherwise, because it wasn't unheard of for my parents to shell out $100 for a good pair of basketball shoes each year for me in middle/high school, and Vibrams run about the same, overall. Some models are as low as $60. I got my current pair last November as a Black Friday sale item, for $40.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    I love just being barefoot. I would probably love vibrams as long as they didn't irritate my toes. However, I have determined that they are probably pretty useless here in the Arctic so I haven't invested in a pair yet. I do wear minimalistic type footwear though. For instance, rubber boots, shoes with barely any sole and I wear Inuit type footwear which have animal skin soles-they are the best.

    They have a winter model now, call the Lontra. Might be worth looking into. http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/Five-Fingers-Lontra-Mens.htm (they have in women's too, I'm just too lazy to track down the link).
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    I've been considering some minimalist shoes for my leg days (squats). I think my running shoes are robbing my lifts.

    I have wide feet. Are they cut more like Nike's or New Balance shoes? Do they come in wider cuts?

    They generally have enough give in them to handle wider feet, and they're not really sized the same way as regular shoes, anyway (they're made and sized to be snug and form-fitting). They also have laced ones now that provide more fine tuned adjustments for people with taller or wider feet.

    I wear size 11 wide in women's and I can easily find Vibrams.

    I recommend finding a place that stocks a variety of their models and try a few on to see which ones work best for you.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    I totally "get" the idea and concept - but just am too worried about how stupid I would look in public. So.. I do try to be barefoot as much as possible around the house and during the summer. Plus when I workout I use New Balance Minimus Zeros - which have the sole made by (or licensed from) vibram. They don't have individual toe pockets - but are a very minimalist sole. I run in the them, lift in them, crossfit and kickbox in them. Take a little getting used to because of the lack of "protection" and "support" but I really have grown to like them.


    Thats the one I was talking about!

    No foot pain for you after wearing them often?

    Not in the Vibrams for me. I wear them all day, every day (yes, I even wear them to work). If you're used to big, clunky, or heeled shoes, then you'll need to work up to wearing them all day, though, as you're not used to using all of the muscles in your foot. You'll get "pain" more in the DOMS and fatigue sense.

    If you're getting other pain, odds are your stride is wrong. You pretty much have to walk correctly in these (soft stride when walking, mid-foot strike when running, never hyper-extend your stride, etc) or you'll injure yourself.
  • junoja
    junoja Posts: 25 Member
    I really like mine. I go barefoot as much as possible. I've worn them to work on casual days - but can't most of the time. I have noticed that they have really helped my toes straighten out. My toes always kinda looked curled up until I started wearing them. After the first wear - I saw a huge difference in flattening out my toes.
    I use them all the time for yoga.
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member
    I love, love, love mine! I have indoor VFFs (for lifting) and outdoor VFFs (for running). For "regular-looking" casual sneaks I wear Merrell Vapor Gloves--they have the same sole and are incredibly light. But yea, I won't run or lift in anything else!
  • ShannonKirton
    ShannonKirton Posts: 304 Member
    I totally "get" the idea and concept - but just am too worried about how stupid I would look in public. So.. I do try to be barefoot as much as possible around the house and during the summer. Plus when I workout I use New Balance Minimus Zeros - which have the sole made by (or licensed from) vibram. They don't have individual toe pockets - but are a very minimalist sole. I run in the them, lift in them, crossfit and kickbox in them. Take a little getting used to because of the lack of "protection" and "support" but I really have grown to like them.

    I totally get the concept too. Not that worried about how people will look at me, but I'm just not 100% sure that they will benefit me that greatly. Living in Barbados, I spent my entire childhood and most of my time now (when I'm not out or at work obviously) barefoot and running around, so I'm pretty sure that my feet are pretty well exercised, but maybe I'm fooling myself. Who knows. If I can find some on sale, or maybe a different brand for less I'll certainly consider it. $100 US is $200 Barbados so you might be able to guess at my hesitation. I will admit that I'm quite curious, but I'm not a fan of the fad (of anything) so not sure what to do.

    But I will check out the other brands and suggestions and see what I come up with.
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member
    Shannon, the main benefit of them is that they don't offer unnatural cushioning that is detrimental to both lifting and running form. Being barefoot so often, you'd probably enjoy the lack of structure these shoes would provide (or wouldn't provide LOL)
  • ShannonKirton
    ShannonKirton Posts: 304 Member
    Shannon, the main benefit of them is that they don't offer unnatural cushioning that is detrimental to both lifting and running form. Being barefoot so often, you'd probably enjoy the lack of structure these shoes would provide (or wouldn't provide LOL)

    Good point Primal. I have made a note to visit a store that carries them and see if I can try on a pair. I know you don't wear socks with them so I'm not sure about store policy and customers trying on the shoes. I would know immediately if I am sold on them or not. The funniest part is, I was recently looking at getting a new pair of Aisics sneakers and those would run me anywhere from $120 - $160 USD, so maybe $100 or $110 US isn't as bad as I thought! lol!
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member
    I actually do wear socks with my running ones (injinji brand) but not with my lifting ones. Helps with the stink :laugh:
  • ShannonKirton
    ShannonKirton Posts: 304 Member
    I actually do wear socks with my running ones (injinji brand) but not with my lifting ones. Helps with the stink :laugh:

    I was wondering about that! I know they sell toe socks, but I was wondering if you could find ankle toe socks! lol Guess if I decide to go through with it I will get me some toe socks. I've never like the feeling of wearing sneakers without socks.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
    I love just being barefoot. I would probably love vibrams as long as they didn't irritate my toes. However, I have determined that they are probably pretty useless here in the Arctic so I haven't invested in a pair yet. I do wear minimalistic type footwear though. For instance, rubber boots, shoes with barely any sole and I wear Inuit type footwear which have animal skin soles-they are the best.

    They have a winter model now, call the Lontra. Might be worth looking into. http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/Five-Fingers-Lontra-Mens.htm (they have in women's too, I'm just too lazy to track down the link).

    Separating toes in the winter is a good way to lose your toes. Also, it's the terrain too. From talking to other people, all the gravel and rocks here would destroy them pretty fast... even if my feet could get tough enough to stand all the rocks.

    No would not even come close to being any good here, not even for spring or fall. LOL I'm laughing really hard looking at them and imagining wearing them to work, wading through snow drifts with temps of -40 C, windchills -60 C. :laugh: