Whey protein (dairy)
hotsungirl
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Whey/dairy and LCHF. Any thoughts, or experiences? I was reading how it can be responsible for holding up weight loss *in some people*. That's the first question. Second, is that allergy season is upon us in Arizona...and I'm contemplating lightening up the dairy to help.
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Dairy is good for LCHF, its one of the biggest food groups for us. Lots of healthy fat in almost all of it, and most of it has low carbs. Ice-cream is bad. Yogurt is borderline, (read the labels). Milk is borderline to many carbs.
If you eat to much cheese, you could get constipated.
Was there any particular dairy you are concerned about?
Here is a screen shot of my spreadsheet for Dairy (Milk is on another sheet, I'll add it later):
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
P.S. If you see something I left out, please tell me and I'll add it.0 -
Are you talking protein supplement for smoothies and such, or actual dairy? If you're concerned about the whey as a protein supplement, what about maybe egg protein, or pea protein? Jay Robb makes egg protein powders, and Now makes pea protein.0
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Dragonwolf wrote: »Butter!
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Dan, more dairy: Gouda, blue cheese, greek yogurt (full fat), quark, brie. And my all time fav, a bleu brie, Cambozola - best prices at Trader Joe's and Costco. Heavenly in omelettes.0
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There are like a million different kinds of cheeses. You might be better off using their classification (soft, hard, whey, goat, sheep, etc) and averaging a sampling of each, and maybe only single out a couple of the common staples (ricotta, cheddar, mozz, cream) in each classification. Otherwise, I could make that list a mile long.0
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Everything duly noted.... Thank you everyone! Will update. How I left butter off, is beyond me. I do have it on my "Oils" spread sheet though. I tried to put the more common cheeses, but I'm willing to add the others. I'll re-post when I get it updated.
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
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oyadancing wrote: »Dan, more dairy: Gouda, blue cheese, greek yogurt (full fat), quark, brie. And my all time fav, a bleu brie, Cambozola - best prices at Trader Joe's and Costco. Heavenly in omelettes.
I have never tried any of these (I've only heard of the Gouda cheese) the others are new to me:
Gouda
Quark
Greek Full Fat
Bleu Brie
Cambozola
I tried Brie once, it was so nasty I spit it out. Bleu Brie? Must be spolied normal brie that has blue penicillin growing on it?
Are the above cheeses mainstream or only for the "upper-crust-croissant-quiche-crowd"? (LOL!)
Dan the Man from Michigan
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They're not so upper crust but can be more expensive. Also not found in like cost less, more a Safeway and above thing. Full fat greek refers to Greek Yogurt made with cream or at least whole milk. It's heavenly, but hard to find. I make my own with straight goat cream.
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I got caught up in dairy brainstorming. Sue me, I love cheese. Nowadays, all supermarkets carry all types of cheeses, so no, there's no particular crowd for these.
Gouda: A hard, smoked cheese
Quark: Like a cross between thick yogurt and sour cream
Greek yogurt: It's everywhere, what's his face from Full House hawks it, much lower in carbs than regular, and full fat is lowest. Fage is the only brand I've found that offers full fat
Some cheeses can seem "challenging" to just snack on but are great when you cook with them. And frankly, the best part of brie is the soft insides, there's nothing like it.0 -
As for dairy holding up weight loss - getting back to OP - I've read that, too. The lactose - milk sugar - in dairy could have as much as an impact as fructose and glucose.
For my own part, I try to avoid milk, yogurt, and half-and-half for that reason. Last week I bumped into (completely by accident, you know) a Starbucks breve, new term for me: a latte made with half-and-half. More fat than normal, but 16g carbs in 12oz! A 1/4 cup of berries, or a cup of green beans, has fewer.0 -
oyadancing wrote: »Dan, more dairy: Gouda, blue cheese, greek yogurt (full fat), quark, brie. And my all time fav, a bleu brie, Cambozola - best prices at Trader Joe's and Costco. Heavenly in omelettes.
Cambozola! What is this magic sounding delicacy. Must try!0 -
oyadancing wrote: »As for dairy holding up weight loss - getting back to OP - I've read that, too. The lactose - milk sugar - in dairy could have as much as an impact as fructose and glucose.
For my own part, I try to avoid milk, yogurt, and half-and-half for that reason. Last week I bumped into (completely by accident, you know) a Starbucks breve, new term for me: a latte made with half-and-half. More fat than normal, but 16g carbs in 12oz! A 1/4 cup of berries, or a cup of green beans, has fewer.
Oya,
I see the abbreviation "OP" all the time on the LCD group, I'm guessing it means: "Original Post"?
Please confirm...
Thank you,
Dan the Man from Michigan
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oyadancing wrote: »As for dairy holding up weight loss - getting back to OP - I've read that, too. The lactose - milk sugar - in dairy could have as much as an impact as fructose and glucose.
For my own part, I try to avoid milk, yogurt, and half-and-half for that reason. Last week I bumped into (completely by accident, you know) a Starbucks breve, new term for me: a latte made with half-and-half. More fat than normal, but 16g carbs in 12oz! A 1/4 cup of berries, or a cup of green beans, has fewer.
Oya,
I see the abbreviation "OP" all the time on the LCD group, I'm guessing it means: "Original Post"?
Please confirm...
Thank you,
Dan the Man from Michigan
Yes, OP is original post if you are talking about the post, or OP can be original poster if you are talking about the person who made the original post.
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oyadancing wrote: »I got caught up in dairy brainstorming. Sue me, I love cheese. Nowadays, all supermarkets carry all types of cheeses, so no, there's no particular crowd for these.
Gouda: A hard, smoked cheese
Quark: Like a cross between thick yogurt and sour cream
Greek yogurt: It's everywhere, what's his face from Full House hawks it, much lower in carbs than regular, and full fat is lowest. Fage is the only brand I've found that offers full fat
Some cheeses can seem "challenging" to just snack on but are great when you cook with them. And frankly, the best part of brie is the soft insides, there's nothing like it.
Oya,
Well, I did find most of them on the nutritional websites. But cambozola is so rare, its not in either of the databases I looked. Yes, I did find it on google.
I found Oikos Greek Yogurt Traditional. I couldn't find one that said, "Full Fat". There were 7 pages of no-fat and low fat. The low fat had 10g per pound. The traditional had 18g. SO I am assuming I have the right one.
There was no "Bleu Brie" either.
If you have a container with the info of the above hard-to-find items, please supply the following data:
Brand,
Serving size by weight,
fat,
protein,
calories,
carbs,
(probably not any fiber).
Thank you.
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
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In the UK Blue Brie is widely available. It is also marketed in the English speaking world as Cambozola. President Choice Blue Brie:- 30 gm serving; Cals 70; Total Fat 4; Sat Fat 3; Carbs 70; Polysaturates,Monosaturates and Transfats all 0; Chol 15mg; Sodium 210 mg.
For someone like yourself who likes to delve you may like the following:- www.cheesescience.net/2008/08/blue-brie.hmtl.0 -
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It's probably a mix of camembert and gorgonzola.robert65ferguson wrote: »In the UK Blue Brie is widely available. It is also marketed in the English speaking world as Cambozola. President Choice Blue Brie:- 30 gm serving; Cals 70; Total Fat 4; Sat Fat 3; Carbs 70; Polysaturates,Monosaturates and Transfats all 0; Chol 15mg; Sodium 210 mg.
For someone like yourself who likes to delve you may like the following:- www.cheesescience.net/2008/08/blue-brie.hmtl.
Edited to add: http://www.igourmet.com/shoppe/Cambozola.asp
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I have heard this same information about dairy impeding weight loss. It's only been about 2 weeks I'm back on keto. 1st week no dairy. This week I've had limited amounts. (Very hard because it makes mealtime magic). But more to the point. In my own personal experience, the last time I did keto, I did find that I had to limit my amounts of dairy as it did noticeably stall weight loss. I was however almost living on beef and cheese. So I'm also suspecting I may have been getting a few more hidden carbs than suggested. This was before the era of all the sites like this one, before we even had a computer at home. So take that for what it's worth. HTH0
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As for helping allergies.... again. I don't know for certain. I have terrible allergies in the summer (mostly ragweed) that usually leads to aggravated asthma and bronchitis. I do know that my congestion, cough and post nasal drip is waaaaaay worse when consuming even moderate amounts of dairy. I've only been on dairy one week. Generally about 60g of cheese and 2 tbsp sour cream per day and already I have to regularly clear my throught and wake with a stuffed up nose. If avoiding dairy doesn't help "reduce" the allergies, it certainly makes it easier to live with if you don't already start with those symptoms. Again, just my personal experience. I'm suspecting there's a lack of hard evidence because it can affect everyone differently
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