Vinegar and Insulin Resistance
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I forgot the ACV today but when I do buy it I'll spend about $4 on a big jug of it at Walmart. We use it for cats and chickens, not to mention cleaning.0
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This discussion intrigues me. I never was a "oil & vinegar" salad eater. So if I want to make up a lettuce salad with Oil & Vinegar...
I could use, "Bragg apple cider vinegar" (if I can find it) & what kind of oil? Light tasting Olive oil, coconut, etc?
And what ratio of oil and vinegar?
Thank you for any consideration you may give me,
Dan the Man from Michigan
I am an oil & vinegar guy. My standard lunch is my salad plus a leftover portion of last night's dinner protein. Lettuce is just a base to separate the plate from the meal. I have a standard plan of mini sweet peppers, olives, radish, cuke, grape tomatoes, a few rings of banana pepper which goes together in minutes. That part totals about 5 carbs. Carb count goes up if I add avocado or ground flax seed. Add a generous shake of the spice blend of the day. Top with chicken, beef, salmon, whatever. Mix and pour on 1 TBL olive oil and 1 TBL vinegar. Mix again.
I like flavor. I usually use a full flavor olive oil not a light one. I usually use red wine vinegar. I measure the oil but not the vinegar. First a splash of vinegar to rinse the oil from the measuring spoon then splash on the salad to taste. I don't lick the plate but I usually use a spoon to scoop up any remaining dressing on the plate.
The best commercial vinegar to me is a Cora product labeled Wine Vinegar Aged 8 Years, imported from Italy by a company in Utica, NY. It's pricey so it's a treat not an every day thing. The best vinegar I've ever had is homemade by a man who is one of the old generation owners of the above mentioned company. He has a demijon with a vinegar culture he has maintained for 30 years. When he takes a bottle of vinegar out he puts a bottle of wine in. That is "lick the plate" good.
For the past half dozen years he has been my son's wine making mentor. I now have a gallon jug of his vinegar in my basement complete with maker. My son doesn't want to set up production in his house for fear of contaminating his wine. It's waiting for him to decide he can spare 5 gallons of wine in order to set up vinegar production here, probably next season. At that time I will be in vinegar heaven.
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I also love salads "dressed" with oil and vinegar. My favorite is a good aged balsamic, but there are others!0
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THANK YOU! Wheatless, Misti, Alliwan, FoamRoller
My dad used oil & vinegar for his whole life and he was old school (ate fat) and he lived to 93. I just never picked it up from him, I ate the sugary salad dressings. Lately, I have been eating Ranch, but it has MSG and other things in it that I don't like. So, I will go to Walmart/Kroger and get the Bragg's Vinegar. Mix it with my light tasting olive oil at 2:1.
I love vinegar, so this should be very good.
Thanks again.
Dan the Man from Michigan
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wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »The usual ratio for oil and vinegar dressing is 2 parts oil, 1 part vinegar. If you're not used to vinegar, start slowly and add to taste so you don't ruin your salad.
This sounds great to me. When I do it, I find I need WAY less vinegar than oil but as someone mentioned earlier with their 1:1 ratio... it's personal. Just start easy and find what you like. I don't make a "dressing" per say. Just pour them on seperately.
As for the ACV this is a great post 'cause I totally forgot about it.
I used to add maybe a TBSP to a glass of warm water in the morning. It tasted (sort of) like cider without the sugar. Since I've been off sugar so long, that's not really a problem to me. I also LOVE kombucha and it is similar to that especially if you start your kombucha with ACV so...
OHHH and I LOVE ACV or balsamic on my spinach with my eggs! (Thanks to Tim Ferris a la 4hr body for that one)0 -
Foamroller wrote: »Bits and pieces about vinegar
I think balsamic vinegar is carbier than other vinegar. Ofc, I used to like it better on salads. I often put a tbs of acv on avocados with pepper and salt as a snack. Vinegar is often used to cut through heavy dishes, giving them a more balanced taste.
I wonder if although all the white rice the japanese eat as sushi, the effect is lower because some of it is resistant starch and sushi rice is seasoned with both sugar and plenty of vinegar. Plus the ginger is pickled as well.
Yes, I think the ACV Fung recommends is the unrefined with the Mother.
Totally off topic of food: If you have workout clothes that "stink", wash them with some 7% table vinegar. It removes funky anaerobic, keto-ish workout smells.
We use white vinegar on our kids funky as hell hockey/lacrosse gear, and on anything that may get peed on by cats (kids' apparently can't learn not to leave their bloody coats on the floor of the laundry room, where the litter is). Works very well.
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nicsflyingcircus wrote: »Foamroller wrote: »Bits and pieces about vinegar
I think balsamic vinegar is carbier than other vinegar. Ofc, I used to like it better on salads. I often put a tbs of acv on avocados with pepper and salt as a snack. Vinegar is often used to cut through heavy dishes, giving them a more balanced taste.
I wonder if although all the white rice the japanese eat as sushi, the effect is lower because some of it is resistant starch and sushi rice is seasoned with both sugar and plenty of vinegar. Plus the ginger is pickled as well.
Yes, I think the ACV Fung recommends is the unrefined with the Mother.
Totally off topic of food: If you have workout clothes that "stink", wash them with some 7% table vinegar. It removes funky anaerobic, keto-ish workout smells.
We use white vinegar on our kids funky as hell hockey/lacrosse gear, and on anything that may get peed on by cats (kids' apparently can't learn not to leave their bloody coats on the floor of the laundry room, where the litter is). Works very well.
I just use the filtered ACV as fabric softener (in the washer's dispenser). Doubles as a way to get odors and stuff out.0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »I just use the filtered ACV as fabric softener (in the washer's dispenser). Doubles as a way to get odors and stuff out.
I do that, too, since I discovered that commercial fabric softeners are so toxic. And to anyone worried about vinegary clothes, you can't smell anything when they're dried. You can google all about it to research it for yourself. Tons of info.0 -
But I use regular white vinegar in the laundry b/c it's cheaper.0
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I have been using vinegar (apple cider) 1 tablespoon whenever I can remember to take it. I can't find the info now but it helped with my acid reflux (another counter intuitive thing) and it help the enzymes for fat metabolism.0
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We make our own laundry detergent and also our own fabric softener with white vinegar. But for eating, we go to a place called The Olive Branch. They are just an oil and vinegar shop, imported from Greece or Italy depending on the product. But they have the biggest stock of vinegar I've ever seen, over 25 flavors in the store we go to. Daughter's favorite is strawberry vinegar, but we love orange vinegar, black cherry vinegar and the chocolate and coffee flavor vinegars. We use a lemon olive oil for our lemon pepper chicken and it is amazing.
They also have plain olive oil and balsamic vinegar. It is a shop that I 'think' is only in my area but you can order online. It is very good!
Nothing is better on a taco salad than a splash or three of strawberry vinegar and some homemade ranch dressing!0 -
wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »But I use regular white vinegar in the laundry b/c it's cheaper.
In a full load, how much do you put in it?
Dan the Man from Michigan
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KeithF6250 wrote: »This discussion intrigues me. I never was a "oil & vinegar" salad eater. So if I want to make up a lettuce salad with Oil & Vinegar...
I could use, "Bragg apple cider vinegar" (if I can find it) & what kind of oil? Light tasting Olive oil, coconut, etc?
And what ratio of oil and vinegar?
Thank you for any consideration you may give me,
Dan the Man from Michigan
I am an oil & vinegar guy.
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The best commercial vinegar to me is a Cora product labeled Wine Vinegar Aged 8 Years, imported from Italy by a company in Utica, NY. It's pricey so it's a treat not an every day thing. The best vinegar I've ever had is homemade by a man who is one of the old generation owners of the above mentioned company. He has a demijon with a vinegar culture he has maintained for 30 years. When he takes a bottle of vinegar out he puts a bottle of wine in. That is "lick the plate" good.
For the past half dozen years he has been my son's wine making mentor. I now have a gallon jug of his vinegar in my basement complete with maker. My son doesn't want to set up production in his house for fear of contaminating his wine. It's waiting for him to decide he can spare 5 gallons of wine in order to set up vinegar production here, probably next season. At that time I will be in vinegar heaven.
Wow, great post. I'm added red wine vinegar to my grocery list. I think I will eat the same salad my dad used to do, tomatoes, cucumbers, onion, bell peppers & vinegar & oil. It will remind me of him (he died a few years ago and I still miss him).
Thank for the post Keith!
Dan the Man from Michigan
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Salad dressing vinaigrette:
2 ts good olive oil
2 ts vinegar
1 ts Dijon mustard (with estragon)
optional grated garlic
Salt and pepper
Stir ingredients rapidly in salad bowl on a need basis or make a big batch and keep it in a bottle.
If you rinse vegs a lot, more vinegar to taste cause the residue water dilutes flavor.0 -
In a full load, how much do you put in it?
Dan the Man from Michigan
I fill the fabric softener dispenser. I do it at the beginning of the load when I put the detergent it. It helps clean, take care of odors, and soften. Don't mix w/ bleach, though, if you're bleaching your whites. Do one or the other.
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wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »In a full load, how much do you put in it?
Dan the Man from Michigan
I fill the fabric softener dispenser. I do it at the beginning of the load when I put the detergent it. It helps clean, take care of odors, and soften. Don't mix w/ bleach, though, if you're bleaching your whites. Do one or the other.
Ditto, I do the same amount. Tiny bit of soap (about 1/4 of what the bottle says to use for HE), full thing of vinegar. Drying everything on sanitize right now because boys with athletes' foot are icky (his clothes are washed separately, but still).0 -
I have never heard of using vinegar in the laundry but will try on my next load!
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Forgot to mention, for those worried about the smell: My husband HATES vinegar. As in, I can't even clean with it when he's in the house, if he catches a whiff when I add ACV to my water, he gives me dirty looks, etc. No complaints about the laundry smelling like vinegar. None. Ever.0
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Forgot to mention, for those worried about the smell: My husband HATES vinegar. As in, I can't even clean with it when he's in the house, if he catches a whiff when I add ACV to my water, he gives me dirty looks, etc. No complaints about the laundry smelling like vinegar. None. Ever.
Thanks I was thinking about that. How did you know my husband is also very aware of smell issues!
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I've found it difficult to drink even highly diluted or mixed. So I have gone the other direction. I'm drinking it 'straight' like a shot of liquor. Don't stop to taste, and drink something else after to rinse.0
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wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »In a full load, how much do you put in it?
Dan the Man from Michigan
I fill the fabric softener dispenser. I do it at the beginning of the load when I put the detergent it. It helps clean, take care of odors, and soften. Don't mix w/ bleach, though, if you're bleaching your whites. Do one or the other.
Thank you Wheat & Twib! I'll try it and I do use bleach, so I'll do Fab Soft on my whites. Vinegar on the rest.
Dan the Man from Michigan
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