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  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    what shoes are you squatting in - have you ever tried lifting in an Olympic shoe?
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  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    GuitarJerry wrote: »
    Hendrix7 wrote: »
    what shoes are you squatting in - have you ever tried lifting in an Olympic shoe?

    I haven't. I have tried using 5 lb plates to put my heels on. It's def better that way. But, I don't know if that completely helps.

    Thats the first thing I would have tried, you can't really compare plates under the heals to a proper shoe it feels totally different.

    I struggle to get parallel in flats shoes but can get 2-3 inches below in my adidas
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Last year I wondered how I had injured my achilles doing almost nothing but lifts near end of winter.
    Had couple runs, and long ride on odd warm/dry day, must mostly lifting.

    Because looking at my ankle mobility, or lack thereof, from many sprains/strains as a youth, and really thought it had something to do with broken ankle side.

    Discovered with feet flat on the ground, my thighs could never reach parallel unless I felt like a combo good/morning squat maneuver - which I didn't.
    They just flat out couldn't do it, longer thighs didn't help the positioning either, but truly ankle could not bend enough.
    I actually reach max ankle bend at correct squat down for deadlift - so never noticed.

    So with weight on bar wondered what was happened, and left side had less bend, so whole body and weight was actually shifting to that side and going up off heel more, if not visibly, at least by weight, and causing bad strain on achilles that is already on the thinner calf side. Very bad combo with extra weight loaded on.
    And that was attempting about as wide a squat stance with knees pointed out as I cared to attempt.

    I'm sure if I'd had kept attempting to go higher weight, that issues would have transferred up to hips/back if the achilles didn't go first

    I put 1/4" thick block of wood under the heels (left side already short leg and used shoe lift for all walking/running shoes, just not lifting shoes) took care of the problem, and allowed more natural toe/knee angle to emphasis quads more.

    So even if you can't upload video here, really suggest analyzing that shifting weight and direction as you do some reps, may discover something.
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  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Hm, interesting. I'm not 100% sure what the issue is that I'm seeing, but it looks like you have a ton of a movement in your lower back at the bottom of the movement. Especially on the way up. You're also squatting high bar which I'm not familiar with so maybe this is normal. Might need someone more knowledgeable in that area.
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I do high bar too, tad farther down across traps though. I lack shoulder mobility for low bar method (thanks UPS as youth).

    Looks pretty good. Good upright stance, don't appear to be tipping forward or back, or straining to prevent it.

    Trying to follow line straight down from the bar though, is it really centered above middle of foot?
    Trying to discern from missing picture, and angle of shin, where heel might be, and can't decide.

    I do see pretty good curve to very low back being introduced coming up from bottom pretty quick.
    So keeping straight back tight, but then allowing curve, does that seem right to you?
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Hm, interesting. I'm not 100% sure what the issue is that I'm seeing, but it looks like you have a ton of a movement in your lower back at the bottom of the movement. Especially on the way up.
    Back looks nice and flat on the way down and then...just odd, on the way up your low and mid back seem to move right to left in the video. Hard to tell but are you taking a big breath before your descent and bracing your core? Have you tried a belt? That may help give you something to brace against and increase intra-abdominal pressure, keeping your spine straighter/stable.

    Paging SS.


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  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    GuitarJerry wrote: »
    To me, it looks like coming out of the bottom, my back stays bent so I come up doing a good morning, almost.
    I don't see anything like a good morning. Generally a good morning results when the hips come up and back out of the hole. I keep watching but can't put into words what I'm seeing and thinking. It's like your hips come forward and up, shoulders go back causing your back to arch. Bar path appears to be possibly moving back slightly near the top as you come up.

  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,073 Member
    I tried squatting without weight to see if I could emulate what I see. The only way I could make myself move the way I'm seeing is by shifting my hips slightly away from my glutes tensing and towards my quads tensing at my knees. Is that what you feel? You start to tense your gluteus muscles to prepare to go up, and you feel your center of gravity shift ever so slightly forward towards your knees to rely upon your quads to power up?
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