That's it, no dairy

FIT_Goat
FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
edited November 20 in Social Groups
I am so sick right now. I've been binging on dairy for the past two weeks. I don't even want to talk about amounts. Let's just say it's not small amounts. My scale weight is up, not a huge amount, but a couple kg. That is completely typical for me when I eat dairy though.

I'm doing no dairy for the next month. July 3rd until August 3rd, at a minimum. There's also something else possible I might be doing. That is going to require me to be in my best shape physically and dairy stops that. I don't want to say, specifically, what that is right now. It's a long shot, not just from the being in shape part.
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  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    I love dairy. All the cheeses and cream. But, it doesn't love me back.
  • GrannyMayOz
    GrannyMayOz Posts: 1,051 Member
    You know you have our support, no matter what you choose Goat.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    That's OK, FitGoat... I will eat all that Extra Old Cheddar, Swiss, Gruyere, Grana Padano Parmesan, Brie, Neufchatel, Camembert that you are foregoing... oops, soooorry... drooled on keyboard.
  • Juliste
    Juliste Posts: 298 Member
    I'm with you @FIT_Goat I have been binging on cheese the past couple of weeks. It is definitely insulinogenic and can't stop at a couple of grams. After the initial water loss, I've been losing and gaining the same 3 pounds since I started keto 41 days ago. My personal challenge this month is also to eliminate cheese. We can do this!!!
  • glossbones
    glossbones Posts: 1,064 Member
    Good luck! I'd miss cream an awful lot, but I think by now we know anything is doable!
  • KetoGirl83
    KetoGirl83 Posts: 546 Member
    Good luck! :smile:
  • professionalHobbyist
    professionalHobbyist Posts: 1,316 Member
    It is good that you know what bothers you and have the self discipline to control it, even when it is something you like.

    Good luck on your future event.
  • Sajyana
    Sajyana Posts: 518 Member
    I know you've got this. I have every confidence.
  • carimiller7391
    carimiller7391 Posts: 1,091 Member
    Let us know how you do dairy free. Would love to know how it affects you.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    I have some experience with reducing it and not eating it for shorter periods. I know how it will work. I'll drop the couple of kg that I've put on. I'll feel better. My stomach will go back to being normal. I will also eat a little bit less than normal, as typically dairy calories don't reduce the meat calories I normally eat.
  • carimiller7391
    carimiller7391 Posts: 1,091 Member
    Very cool. Good info to know.
  • gsp90x
    gsp90x Posts: 416 Member
    I feel your pain, in both senses.
    I LOVE dairy, anything related to dairy. BUT, just like bread and other carbs that should be a sign to me that it's doing funky things in my body right?

    I couldn't lose an oz until I cut them all, carbs and dairy. At first I thought "that's it. The rest of my life will be miserable" But just like we don't really miss veggies, after a while, I didn't miss it. When I see someone eating it, I briefly think, ooo that would be nice, but just like the other cravings left, this did too. Now I'm pretty detached from it and can take it or leave it. The first few weeks, even a month could be difficult if others in the house are still eating it,... but....

    Think ahead to your big surprise! I dont' know what it it, but it already sounds cool!

    You've been waffling for quite a while on this dairy thing. Maybe you're uncomfortable enough now to finally feel better. :)

    You just gotta get your head in a good place and you'll succeed.

    You can do it. (if you want)

    Good luck and I'm looking forward to the big reveal should it happen!
  • mlinton_mesapark
    mlinton_mesapark Posts: 517 Member
    @FIT_Goat, may you enjoy and benefit from your dairy free month. :-)
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    gsp90x wrote: »
    You've been waffling for quite a while on this dairy thing. Maybe you're uncomfortable enough now to finally feel better. :)

    I know I have been. I know what's good for me, I just never have the strength to cut it out. lol

    As for the reveal, we'll see how things go. I should actually get working on that this morning.
  • toadqueen
    toadqueen Posts: 592 Member
    I have to be dairy free because of what it does to my body too and I LOVE cheese. It just doesn't love me back. I've been without since June 14th. It gets easier as you go.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Are you trying to get pregnant, FitGoat? Is that your big surprise? :D;);)
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    canadjineh wrote: »
    Are you trying to get pregnant, FitGoat? Is that your big surprise? :D;);)

    lol, you're on to me! ;)
  • Teneko
    Teneko Posts: 314 Member
    Haha!
    Not laughing at your dairy pain...but the pregnancy. FIT_Goat is trying to have...KIDS! *snicker*
    Okay, okay.

    I was lactose intolerant for over 10 years, so I definitely feel the dairy pain. I mean, I grew up on a farm where we milked our own cows and sometimes made our own cheese and butter.
    Lucky for me that the probiotic tea I've been having for the past year or so has allowed me to have dairy again. You might try adding a probiotic to your diet if you haven't already. Even if you are not having dairy anymore, it might be helpful.
    The tea I use is Bigelow's lemon ginger probiotic. It has the same probiotics that I used to take as a daily supplement from Ganeden when I first became lactose intolerant.

    Time to switch back to broth gravies. Are you cutting out butter / ghee as well?

    -T.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    My wife would be very shocked if I got pregnant. LOL

    I am not cutting out butter, but I probably won't eat any during the next month. I rarely use butter because my meat is pretty fatty and I have tons of bacon grease that I cook with. Butter doesn't cause me problems though.
  • professionalHobbyist
    professionalHobbyist Posts: 1,316 Member
    I'm with you FitGoat

    Here is my dinner cooking right now!!

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  • ireadlabelsdammit
    ireadlabelsdammit Posts: 64 Member
    What will you replace dairy with? I'd love to cut dairy, but yogurt and cheese help me reach my macros. Fake cheeses have more carbs, so not really a good option...
  • annieboomboom
    annieboomboom Posts: 176 Member
    give up eggs? The perfect food?
    Giving up cheese is easy. Eggs? my body loves the down time after so much beef. Truely sorry it doesn't work for everyone.
    I am Scandinavian decent. I think we lived on dairy.
  • toadqueen
    toadqueen Posts: 592 Member
    edited July 2015
    I am confused about the egg comment. I do not think OP is giving up eggs, just dairy. Maybe I missed something. However, I am not eating dairy or eggs and beef or lamb only once per week. I subsist on chicken, seafood and salad mostly because of food sensitivities. It's not fun, but manageable.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    What will you replace dairy with? I'd love to cut dairy, but yogurt and cheese help me reach my macros. Fake cheeses have more carbs, so not really a good option...

    I am not replacing it with anything. I don't track macros, and dairy didn't help me meet the macro goals when I did. Cheese is way less fatty than my usual meats.
    give up eggs? The perfect food?
    Giving up cheese is easy. Eggs? my body loves the down time after so much beef. Truely sorry it doesn't work for everyone.
    I am Scandinavian decent. I think we lived on dairy.

    Not cutting eggs, although I haven't bought any in months because they have doubled in price here. Eggs are still in, nothing like an eggs with steak or on a burger.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    As for what I will be eating for the next month. Mostly ground beef and steak (95%) with ribs and other animal meats making up the rest of it. Chased with cups of black coffee and water.
  • CoffeeNBooze
    CoffeeNBooze Posts: 966 Member
    Sorry you feel yucky :( Do you think it's because maybe your body isn't used to eating other kinds of foods anymore and developed an intolerance? Also, why the dairy binge... did you feel deprived? I've only been strict lchf for about a month but i don't think i'd binge on what I cut out b/c I don't miss it
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    edited July 2015
    I have always been dairy intolerant. Even before low carb. I have also always loved cheese and sour cream and everything else. This is nothing new.

    I haven't felt deprived either. Why the increase in dairy? Because we've been out a lot recently and dairy is frequently available as acceptable snacks for me. Meat and cheese trays, sour cream, cream cheese, etc. Dairy is also easy to bring with us, if we're going to someone's house, without worrying about bringing cooked meat or cooking it there.

    I also went out and had the 7x7 from Steak 'n Shake. That's a bunch of cheese right there. My wife bought a bunch of cheese because she was going to be low carb, then never went low carb and didn't want to eat it. And so on. For various reasons I have been surrounded by excess dairy. And, I ate it. I call it a binge, but it isn't like what most people would consider a binge. It is just consistently eating a "lot" (for me) or dairy.

    For most people here, the amounts I ate would seem normal.

    Edit: I know I said "not small amounts" in the first post. But, 4 oz of sour cream and 3 oz of cheese in a single day is a massive amount for me. That's probably typical for one of the heavier days. I can probably get by with an oz or so. Other days it was a couple oz of cream cheese, hard cheeses, or whatever. It's just the consistent constant eating.

    Also, I'm not feeling yucky anymore. That passed pretty quickly once the cheese made it through. I just know I'll feel like crap if I eat it again. Yet, I typically keep going back and eating it again. LOL
  • dalansteiner
    dalansteiner Posts: 61 Member
    I have just been diagnosed with EoE and so have to cut out dairy, eggs, gluten, soy, tree nuts, and shellfish. So I am with you fit goat. And then some...
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    I have just been diagnosed with EoE and so have to cut out dairy, eggs, gluten, soy, tree nuts, and shellfish. So I am with you fit goat. And then some...

    At least I still have my eggs and shellfish. I feel bad for you.

    I'm two days down. I almost broke today too. There was so much cheese at the party I was at today. Cheese trays, cheese burgers, and so on. I had the host make me a couple plain burgers. And, I stuck to those and my ribs. I just love cheese. I think I am having cheese-withdrawals. LOL
  • Cheesy567
    Cheesy567 Posts: 1,186 Member
    Have you tried breaking it down into dairy fats, lactose, and casein to see if you're sensitive to one but not others? And have you tried grass-fed dairy (some people react to the grains and soy in conventional dairy) or goat dairy (fewer people are sensitive to goat dairy).
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