Low calories, LC and filling foods
SkinnyKerinny
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I just ate a huge salad of baby greens at 9:30 this morning because I was so hungry. I doubt this will last until dinner so I thought it would be awesome if we shared "go to" foods for situations like this. I haven't been so hungry like this since starting the LC 2 weeks ago. The only thing different today is a little less sleep and started taking potassium. It's probably getting less sleep that's making me so hungry.
I'll definitely be drinking a lot of water today but I'm hoping not to go over my calories if possible.
So do you have any fav foods that are low cal and LC?
I'll definitely be drinking a lot of water today but I'm hoping not to go over my calories if possible.
So do you have any fav foods that are low cal and LC?
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Honestly, at the hardest moments like that, I find that something with caffeine allows me to focus, be alert, and stick to my guns. I know it is weird, but I always am less tempted to cheat when I'm well rested, alert, and able to focus.
That being said, I don't really focus at all on low cal foods, because my diet is high fat.... Are you looking for volume or satisfaction? Because I can have a small portion of say, macadamia nuts (high fat) and be more satisfied than eating a gallon of sugar free jello...0 -
Did your baby greens have some nice oil or protein with it? I can last for hours if I've added fat and protein.
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Hi Jenny
Yes it had a can of yellowfin tuna plus avocado, cream and parmesan cheese.
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SkinnyKerinny wrote: »I just ate a huge salad of baby greens at 9:30 this morning because I was so hungry. I doubt this will last until dinner so I thought it would be awesome if we shared "go to" foods for situations like this. I haven't been so hungry like this since starting the LC 2 weeks ago. The only thing different today is a little less sleep and started taking potassium. It's probably getting less sleep that's making me so hungry.
I'll definitely be drinking a lot of water today but I'm hoping not to go over my calories if possible.
So do you have any fav foods that are low cal and LC?
Id like to know this too. Its unfortunate that most low-carb/high-fat foods are high calorie, and LCHF or not calories in vs calories out matter a great deal to me. I find myself going hungry a lot because all the things i can think of to eat would send my calories over.
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Hi Knit!
I think I'll try to take a nap today and see if that helps.0 -
I'm tracking calories, too. But if I had to make a choice, and I sometimes do, I'd choose a little over calories but keep to low carb. So if you are not dairy free, for me that would be a cheese wedge and some kielbasa. Nuts, of course, but they are so high carb. I keep tuna, salmon and rotisserie chicken on hand, and I eat the skin or tear of a bit of meat.
It's a struggle, learning to eat this way and succeed every day. So if I have high carb days, pardon me: WHEN I have high carb days, they are only high carb compared to how I WANT to be eating, not compared to how I used to eat or the SAD. Same goes for calories, some days are better than others.
But this is endurance rather than sprint eating. If we are eating this way for life then highs and lows are probably better expected and embraced, rather than beating ourselves up.
Awkward sentence. But I think the meaning comes through. If you are hungry, eat. Drink some water/tea/broth/coffee. And move on.
You are on the right path, that you are choosing for yourself.
Did you ever before picture yourself eating a ton of lovely greens in the morning? You rock.0 -
I find that if I focus on nutrition over calories, I don't worry as much. If I keep my carbs to a limit, then focus on ensuring nutrition, I don't care as much if I go over calories. If I go over because I ate 500 calories of junk, then that's on me, but if I add some extra chicken and veggies to my salad and this pushes me over, I just don't care.
But, I also find that even an excess of veggie carbs makes me hungrier. I think that either my insulin resistance just has my metabolism so broken or I'm just super sensitive to some carbs.
My theory is, if you are hungry, eat. If it is true from the gut hunger, not the get stuck in my head or mouth cravings, I eat. Otherwise, I'm just continuing the cycle that got me here in the first place - which is ignoring my body's true hunger signals. I'd eat when I wasn't hungry or force myself not to eat when I was, and my body just got tired of trying. Now, I'm focusing on my body's signals, and it is just so much easier. Because our bodies should be able to regulate once we balance things out and fix what's broken...
It's just we've been trained so long not do that....it's another thing we have to overcome.0 -
A tums usually knocks out acid related hunger
A pregnant lady shared that with me
Just chew to calcium fortified tums and give it 10 minutes
I do that maybe once every week or so when a weird hunger pang strikes
Salty meat like a chunk of beef jerky and a big glass of water helps me
Or celery dipped in yogurt based salad dressing
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I've found that a handful of bacon puffs (pork rinds) does the trick for me. I think the salty crunchiness is what does it? 7 pces is 1/4 the suggested serving size so cals aren't too high & you're getting fat & protein.0
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I also read this. I would be hungry all the time. Even as I ate or right after. I would have to stuff my self to not feel that way. I read it could be from acid reflux even if I didn't have heartburn. So now I just take a low dose all day pill and it has helped.professionalHobbyist wrote: »A tums usually knocks out acid related hunger
A pregnant lady shared that with me
Just chew to calcium fortified tums and give it 10 minutes
I do that maybe once every week or so when a weird hunger pang strikes
Salty meat like a chunk of beef jerky and a big glass of water helps me
Or celery dipped in yogurt based salad dressing
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I used to have antacids all the time. Then I read that heartburn is caused from too little acid. I took some HCL acid supplements and in a few days there was no more heartburn. Also Tums have some carbs.0
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I used eat a hard boiled egg. They last up to a week after cooking. Only 70 calories, portable, and filling.0
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I second the hard boiled egg. Eggs are the perfect food, and not carby like nuts.0
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I am having a hard time sticking to my calorie goal. I do not feel satisfied with the foods I eat, so I am constantly going over my calorie goal. A single egg would do NOTHING for me. Nuts do nothing for me. It's frustrating.0
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itsjustdawn wrote: »I am having a hard time sticking to my calorie goal. I do not feel satisfied with the foods I eat, so I am constantly going over my calorie goal. A single egg would do NOTHING for me. Nuts do nothing for me. It's frustrating.
What does fill you up? If you let us know, we can provide more suggestions. I love the eggs wrapped in sausage (scotch eggs). Each one is 300+ calories, and I can almost never finish two, which is crazy... Or deviled eggs, etc. As for nuts, I have to be careful, too, but I pretty much only do macadamias in small portions. The carb/fat balance is almost perfect for me.0 -
SkinnyKerinny wrote: »I used to have antacids all the time. Then I read that heartburn is caused from too little acid. I took some HCL acid supplements and in a few days there was no more heartburn. Also Tums have some carbs.
I will look that up! Thank you for sharing !
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egg salad with real mayo. Chicken salad with real mayo. Have it in the fridge. a couple spoon fulls when needed.
Love me my may. Greens are worthless unless you add protein and fat. Egg salad on greens. Try that.0 -
Try more fat. Scary but you can do it. MORE FAT0
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I've been making batches of low-carb meatballs and egg muffins lately.
Meatballs: http://www.tastesoflizzyt.com/2014/10/01/paleo-italian-meatballs/
Egg Muffins: http://www.butterisnotacarb.com/easy-zero-carb-egg-muffins/
You can vary the meats and other ingredients in these recipes, and it's nice to have a filling grab-and-go option.0 -
Another LCHF idea is a teaspoon of nut butter. Unsalted natural peanut butter has 32 calories, 1 g of carbs, 1 g of protein and 3 g of fat. It is usually enough to take the edge off for me. Macadamia nut butter is outrageous both in taste and cost but worth the indulgence now and then.0
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SkinnyKerinny wrote: »Hi Knit!
I think I'll try to take a nap today and see if that helps.
I second that....
Dan the Man from Michigan
Keto / IF / Sedentary
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Using pork skins to scoop up egg salad is very filling! When I have it for lunch I hardly want anything for dinner.0
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Another LCHF idea is a teaspoon of nut butter. Unsalted natural peanut butter has 32 calories, 1 g of carbs, 1 g of protein and 3 g of fat. It is usually enough to take the edge off for me. Macadamia nut butter is outrageous both in taste and cost but worth the indulgence now and then.
Dont mean to be negative, but bwoy, 1 tsp nut butter would definitely not take the edge off hunger for me! 1 tbsp wouldnt even touch the sides! Once i start eating nut butters i crave more & more. I used to snack on PB or Almond Butter, but didnt find it conducive to losing weight. YMMV though.
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wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »Using pork skins to scoop up egg salad is very filling! When I have it for lunch I hardly want anything for dinner.
Pork skins are REALLY high calorie too. Snacking on those sends my calories through the roof (and then comes the weight gain). Love them to bits but on a low-calorie allowance there is very little room for such calorie dense snacks (unless you have a super small portion - and then it probably wouldnt fill you)
Can you tell that i am hungry and tried all these options and failed?! Cheese is another bad one to snack on imo if you're on low calories. Neither pork skins, cheese nor nut butter are low-calorie or filling in small portions to me, and they can cause over-eating.
I tend to have an egg coffee for a snack if im hungry (literally a large black coffee blended with 1 raw egg). The fluid volume helps to fill you, along with the fats & proteins in the egg. I also tend to go for a large black coffee with 1 tbsp HWC if my tummy rumbles between meals - again, its the volume of fluid, and then the creamy taste satisfies you a little, along with the bit of fat. I will also snack on a couple of celery sticks with Franks Hot Sauce sometimes, if i feel like something solid to crunch on. The fiber takes the edge of the hunger a little. Other than that a little chunk of meat left-overs (roast pork/lamb/beef/steak) is what i will grab if i have some to hand. Or a hard-boiled egg. Although its usually coffee with cream and/or egg lately. Its quick, easy, tasty & i tell myself im having a full BPC, which is a meal (even though it isnt), just to try to trick myself into feeling less denied lol.
BUT i would say, it is starting to dawn on me that when you are on very low calories there are always times you are going to feel hungry, and sometimes, if you want to lose weight, you have to decide to put up with the hunger until your next meal time, or consciously decide to go over cals and not lose weight. Frankly i NEVER have a spare 200-300 calories for a truly filling snack, and im not prepared anymore to keep putting myself through low calories all day to ruin it all by going over calories for the sake of one snack. It would be great to be able to have 3 full meals and 1 or 2 satisfying snacks a day and to feel full all the time, but i cant have my cake and eat it - if i consume enough food to satiate me, i dont lose weight. Simple. If i want to lose fat it looks like im going to have to be a little uncomfortable at times. I suppose that's life - nothing worth doing is easy and there is always a pay-off for anything desirable.
Im in a bit of a hangry mood atm, as you can probably tell, but i just wanted to share that to lose weight some of us have to really come out of our comfort zone, and overcome the need to have a comfortably full belly all the time. Im, tired of trying to discover this magical food that will fill me up, not send me over my carbs, and not add many calories. Fact is, low-carb high-fat food tends to be high in calories, so a small snack can really add up.
I would say that low-carb/keto does satiate you more than if you ate the equivalent daily calories of higher carb foods, but let's face it, if your calories are really low, hunger will come calling at some point (mine is every other day - i do great on 1 day of 1000 cals, but next day im starving and have been snacking and raising to 1200, then next day i feel strong enough again to drop back to 1000). Its frustrating though because on my low calorie days i lose weight, great!... then the next day when i snack and raise my cals slightly to 1200, i gain it all back! So this is why im starting to think that some of us dont have the option of snacks or full satiation whilst losing weight.
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If I eat properly at meals, I don't snack. And I was a chronic snacker before.
Sounds like you might want to focus on not drinking your calories, even with the fat in them, because it isn't sending that "full" signal to your brain. I would focus on your coffee black and sweet or with the egg, but not cream unless like 1 TBSP, because I think that once I shifted to having full meals with the bulk of my calories, I was a lot less hungry for snacking.
I do more calories at breakfast (due to my coffee) and dinner, and I tend to keep lunch lighter, just due to time and convenience. It might be worth focusing more of your calories on your meals and less on snacks...because most of the time the snack won't be needed.
Also, if you read the thread going here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10204955/help-please-what-am-i-doing-wrong#Item_31
You'll see that there is an entire discussion around the fact that calories that low might stall out your metabolism. In general, I see people able to and needing to eat 20%+ more calories on a LCHFMP diet than a SAD diet.... So if 1,200 worked for you on SAD/CICO/Paleo, etc., you sincerely might try bumping up 200 calories for a few weeks to see what happens. If not, you can always go back down to what you know worked before. I have just seen it time and time again where folks have to UP the calories to lose on this WOE...
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Hey Knit babes, were you talking to me?
If so, ive sincerely tried upping my calories, to 1300-1400, and occasionally maintenance, and the few days i did it i gained weight every day. It freaked me out tbh, as it was going on in lumps of 2-3lbs a day! and so i put my calories back down and the weight started very slowly going down again. Maybe i didnt give it long enough for things to even out, but i couldnt bare to undo all the hard work ive put in this past couple months by gaining everything back, and rapidly. I just cant risk it. Sensibly speaking, my TDEE is apparently 1500 cals, so 1300-1400 cals would only give me a deficit of 100-200 cals. You need a deficit of 500 cals a day to lose about 1 lb a week, apparently, so even if i didnt gain on those higher calories (which i do) i really couldnt expect to lose much with such a small deficit. Im far too impatient for that!
The general consensus seems that 500 cals deficit per day below TDEE is about right for a slow & steady loss of about 1lb a week. Well, 500 cal deficit works out to 1000 cals a day for me - so i guess it makes sense that i have to go that low to see a decent weight-loss. I suppose theres no way to get around it unfortunately... short of growing a few inches taller (why do i have to be such a midget?!).
Its still weird though that i GAIN weight at only 1300-1400 cals, as its still slightly below TDEE. It does make me wonder exactly how im managing that? It shouldnt be technically possible.
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Yeah, you needed to give higher calories at least 3-4 weeks to work. Did you read the post about the woman who gained weight for 6 months before losing again because her metabolism and such were that BROKEN?0
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I second knit.
I also don't see how you could immediately gain with a single slightly higher calorie day, that sounds like water weight to me. Give it at least a month on at least 1300 calories per day to see. You shouldn't need to be hungry to lose with this woe, I regularly eat less than 1000 cals and am satisfied completely.0 -
Holy moly - no i didnt read that post. Gaining weight for 6 months is out of the question. Hell, gaining for 6 days isnt something i could sit back and allow to happen. Psychologically, gaining weight is hugely destructive for me. I have zero confidence & ive pinned everything on losing weight. I know its a dangerous path, but i CANT fail. I wont allow myself to ruin everything ive achieved and to gain weight. With every pound i lose i achieve something more than just weight-loss - it makes me feel in control of my life, stronger, a winner. To gain weight is to fail, and if i fail at one more thing im scared that i will just give in and not try at anything again. I've been through a lot and this is my way of taking back control of my life & healing myself mentally as well as physically. So you see, i cant afford to go backwards and gain weight. I have too much riding on this. Its a mark of my success or failure in life. The healing abilities of seeing the scale going down - the sense of achievement and validation. I need that. I have a goal and this time i need to achieve it. This time i cant fail!
Sorry, got carried away there, but basically no way would i dare to deliberately gain weight on the off-chance that my body may decide at some point in the future to lose it again. Its too much of an unknown for me. Theres just as much chance that you'll gain weight and stay that weight, or keep gaining, i would have thought. Far too risky imo.
Ive come accross the 'eat more to lose more' philosophy, or whatever its called, but honestly im not a believer. To me it seems sensible that calories-in vs calories-out remains relevant regardless of which eating style you choose. I know there are many who believe strongly that you can eat more calories on a keto diet than other eating plans and get the same or better weight-loss results, but im struggling with this concept. So far it hasnt proved to be true for me. I think Keto is great in many ways, and i intend to stick to plan indefinately, regardless. I was having these calorie issues way before i went keto.
I think what i should do is give the lower calories just a few more weeks to work. Like you said about higher calories Knit, you need to give something a chance for a month or so before gauging its success. Maybe i will feel satisfied with 1000 calories soon if i stick with it.. I mean, when i 1st went keto i was ravenous all the time, no matter how many calories i consumed, but as my body adapted it gradually became satisfied with 1300 cals. So maybe i can become satisfied with 1000 if i stick with it a bit longer. At least im losing at those calories. No pain, no gain, i guess. Im going to give this a better shot
Thanks for listening *hugs* x
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SkinnyKerinny wrote: »I just ate a huge salad of baby greens at 9:30 this morning because I was so hungry. I doubt this will last until dinner so I thought it would be awesome if we shared "go to" foods for situations like this. I haven't been so hungry like this since starting the LC 2 weeks ago. The only thing different today is a little less sleep and started taking potassium. It's probably getting less sleep that's making me so hungry.
I'll definitely be drinking a lot of water today but I'm hoping not to go over my calories if possible.
So do you have any fav foods that are low cal and LC?
Eat.
You're hungry today because you have been 700-900 calories shy for most of the past week or so, and even the times you were over, it doesn't make up for the times you were under (even if you want to say that you only actually burned about half what MFP is giving you credit for).
Your hunger is going to fluctuate over the course of the week and month. That's okay, as long as the week averages out at a net deficit. One of the benefits of this way of eating is that most people find their hunger signals become reliable again.0
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