I haven't tried it but I learned today that Dr Dominic D'Agostino who is a medical researcher in the field of the effects of ketones on the brain believes that Quest powder MCT oil or Asprey's Brain Octain are the most Ketogenic as far as all the forms of coconut oil go. He personally uses the quest powdered form because he said its easy to travel with and can be mixed with anything.
I already believed in the ketone boosting power of MCT specifically, and that they are not all created equal, but it was interesting to learn what he thought was the most ketone boosting.

auntstephie321 wrote: »

Thanks for sharing @Sunny_Bunny_ I've been looking to get some mct oil, I use coconut oil but I've heard of others having better results with mct, so I really want to try that out

No problem. I've been using Carrington Farms and it's cheaper than those two I mentioned and I do feel like I've noticed a difference. But apparently I could still be doing better.

I recently revisited the Walden Farms Web site. Actually, now that I think about it the last time I tried any Walden Farms products, the World Wide Web was nothing but a gleam in some researcher's eye.

They used to make mostly salad dressings and most of them were pretty bad, which explains why it's been so long for me. They now make a zillion different products: salad dressings, fruit spreads, mayo, catsup, coffee creamers and so on, all zero carb. Their Web site listed a string of stores in my area, only one of which is in business in its original form. That retailer has a nice selection and I'm weeding through what is still awful and what I really like.

The Good: pancake syrup (amazingly good), mocha coffee creamer, apple butter, raspberry fruit spread, spicy mayo. The Ugly: the other coffee creamers, seafood sauce, catsup. The store owner warned me about their inedible peanut spread and recommended PB2, which I already like and use all the time.

Coconut and Almond flour,. I knew it existed, but I thought it was some hippy stuff...I bought some of each today, lol.

Also I discovered that while I can buy my favorite Cabot cheese online and have it shipped, it is much easier to wait until this summer and just go to their creamery in VT to get my favorites. Horseradish cheese dip? Yes ma'am!

Not really new, but fairly new to me. Dole strawberry dippers. 5 net carbs per pack and a great little dessert.

MerryOne00 wrote: »

Like Sunny_Bunny_, I am on carrington farm coconut oil. Today was like -AAAAHHHH--- and the Angels were singing! I worked all day with focus and good spirits! Never really hungry, no big lunch meal, just a handful of macadamia nuts.

Coconut oil or MCT? Before I switched to MCT, I figured it was just hype. But I actually do feel a little more mental focus with it. I am someone that is acutely aware of my ability to focus though. Been dealing with ADHD levels of brain fog for my whole life.

AshleyC1023 wrote: »

Sunny, how does that work for the ADHD. I have 2 children with ADHD that take medication. The older of the two hasn't been having a good run with meds so far, as he suffers depression when using it (Concerta 18 mg). We just switched him to another at his appt this morning, but what are your thoughts as an addition to his regular medication?

My 17 year old was taking Adderall XR at maximum dosage AND Straterra and I was still constantly fighting with her completing school work and she has had to retake at least one vote class every single year of high school online while also doing the current years classes. She struggles with everything at school and if she gets all D's, that's an improvement!
She is interested in going into the Army or Navy Reserves possibly and someone told her that she couldn't tell them about the ADHD or that she takes meds and that she would need to be off them before getting drug tested. So she wanted to quit taking them.
I of course didn't want her D's and F's to become all F's! So I did a ton of reading and I'm still researching everyday trying to "hack ADHD" naturally.
So far, it's been about 2 months I think since she stopped meds I think. Her final grades for last quarter were B, C, F, C, C, B. That's actually very very good!
I give her 1 Tbs MCT oil with some Pb2 mixed in it that she just eats with a spoon from the tiny bowl I mix it in. I originally was making a coconut oil fat bomb but I wanted to switch to MCT upon doing more reading. I also have her taking 250mg magnesium, 3000mg Vitamin C, about 750mg total DHA and EPA in the form of krill oil and a basic probiotic.
There are other supplements that I believe will be good additions, but I honestly think the MCT and DHA/EPA is the reason there's been a difference. I think I may buy the powdered MCT from Quest so she can just drink it in a cup of milk. That would be simpler and I could increase the dosage more easily. The quest powder is about $30 for 50 servings. I just don't understand the concentration of Caprylic acid in each serving. That's the main MCT (C8) that is so effective, so I would want to know how much the Quest has per serving.

Adderall XR is what the doc gave him today to give a try. 5 MG for the first week, up to 10 next week if he's still super off task. My daughter takes the Concerta 18 mg daily without issues.
Luckily, my sons teacher also has ADHD and is very sympathetic and patient with him while we're figuring out what works. I feel bad doping him up, but he went from D's and F's to A's, B's, and a C in English - but the C in English is contributed to a learning disability (both of my ADHD children are also dyslexic) So the C in English was acceptable.

I have been slowly cutting their carbs back, but not drastically. But if I can help with their diet that's a big plus. Strattera is the next suggestion if the Adderall doesn't help him out.

Whoever told your daughter that is 100% right about the meds showing in the UA. My husband is active, and when I get the adderall and the concerta I have to sign a waiver (military pharmacy) that this medication will make your UA come up "hot" for methamphetamines. Now, if she can go off them long enough to get through basic, she can go back on them afterwards and then they check your med records when they drug test and you're all clear when it shows up. A lot more soldiers than you would think take ADHD medications (to include my husbands first sergeant, and boy is that man hyper and off focus when he doesn't take them - think 45 year old 4 year old on a sugar binge)

AshleyC1023 wrote: »

Coconut and Almond flour,. I knew it existed, but I thought it was some hippy stuff...I bought some of each today, lol.

Also I discovered that while I can buy my favorite Cabot cheese online and have it shipped, it is much easier to wait until this summer and just go to their creamery in VT to get my favorites. Horseradish cheese dip? Yes ma'am!

I am in the process of experimenting with non-grain baking. Pinterest has all sorts of recipes, some very good and some not so much. You have to keep trying to find what you like. The best recipes I've found so far use more than one kind of flour, which explains the almond flour, coconut flour, ground flaxseed, arrowroot and soy flour currently hogging space in my refrigerator.

I always kind of wondered if they felt different with being distracted and whatnot. Today is day 1 of adderall for my son so we'll see how it goes on the 5 mg. His teacher is going to keep me in the loop on how he functions all day.

Did a recruiter tell her that? If so, find a new recruiter to talk to. Denying it is a double edged sword, and most recruiters are notoriously shady - a lot of them don't care as long as they can ship you off to basic so be forewarned. There are honest ones, just be wary, and anything she wants included in her contract, get it in writing or it doesn't count.
Before you go to the entrance processing, they give you a long questionnaire about your medical health, to which at the bottom you certify that it is accurate. The issue here is it really does depend on what kind of job she wants in the military. If it requires a security clearance, you have zero expectations of any privacy (medical records included, you sign forms for them to go dig through that if they feel it's necessary - my top secret they didn't bother) and then you get busted. Then it comes out that you lied and your clearance is more than likely going to be denied. Now, if you pick a job that requires a clearance and you don't get that clearance, they do one of two things: Reclass you, to whatever job they seem fit (needs of the Army) that doesn't require a clearance OR discharge you. Best to maybe not say anything until she's in, but to be completely honest on the SF86 (which is this 20 page packet to fill out for security clearance).
For the clearance, it doesn't matter if she has ADHD, but the integrity part matters a whole lot. There are a lot of decent jobs that don't generally require it, but some units require it regardless of your job. My husband is field artillery - this is a no clearance job. However, because his unit worked with civilian contractors testing equipment, he has a clearance.
My ex husband lost his clearance for lying on the form last year. He is an alcoholic (which is a disqualifying factor in itself but not necessarily a disqualifying factor if they are getting help for it) 11 years in the military flushed down the toilet. They interview your friends, family, co workers and if anything doesn't mesh, they dig deep.

Since she's off it now it's out of her system and she'll pass the drug testing no issue. Also, the "test" doesn't matter that much. It's more of a placement test. Even if you score low on it, there are still jobs available. Have the recruiter do a mock test to see where she falls. I find that I scored a 77/100 on the mock test, but 89/100 on the real test. So don't get discouraged!

Sorry, I wrote a book.

mandycat223 wrote: »

I recently revisited the Walden Farms Web site. Actually, now that I think about it the last time I tried any Walden Farms products, the World Wide Web was nothing but a gleam in some researcher's eye.

They used to make mostly salad dressings and most of them were pretty bad, which explains why it's been so long for me. They now make a zillion different products: salad dressings, fruit spreads, mayo, catsup, coffee creamers and so on, all zero carb. Their Web site listed a string of stores in my area, only one of which is in business in its original form. That retailer has a nice selection and I'm weeding through what is still awful and what I really like.

The Good: pancake syrup (amazingly good), mocha coffee creamer, apple butter, raspberry fruit spread, spicy mayo. The Ugly: the other coffee creamers, seafood sauce, catsup. The store owner warned me about their inedible peanut spread and recommended PB2, which I already like and use all the time.

I found Walden Farms pancake syrup over the weekend, and drizzled a bit of it over a few small pieces of brie yesterday. So good, and knocked out my sugar cravings. Next step, try cooking with it. I got some paleo recipes that I can try to keto-ize.

NewSue52 wrote:

I liked the idea of the original post but the discussion wandered off into ADHD. Not that there is anything wrong with that but I'd really like to read more about things that people have discovered that support this WOE.

I've got two --

Doctor in the Kitchen brand has some crackers that are edible and have only 1 net carb in 6 crackers. They are called Flackers and are made of sprouted flax seed. They aren't water crackers but they aren't awful. They'll do when I want some crackers to put my cheese on.

The other thing is Salted Caramel Black Tea by Bigalow. Very tasty, and slightly sweet.

Moved from a duplicate thread.