Q_Is_Poison wrote: »

Fit_Goat most women and many men would be obese if they ate the way you do. You are obviously blessed with a very high metabolism.

Eating the way @FIT_Goat does is what is curing my PCOS, insulin resistance, elevated insulin, and inability to lose weight.

I eat a diet similar to fit goat, and not because I choose to believe butter and cheese are healthy. I was a vegan for many years and would prefer to not eat animal products if I could. I gain weight when not eating LCHF and become less healthy with that way of eating. It is my experience that this is healthier for me, that's why I believe it. It's not for everyone, so we all need to find what works for us.

Q_Is_Poison wrote: »

One final work before I head out to the gym, I am not fundamentally opposed to butter if it provides comfort and solace to the folks who use it. However, I do believe that it is a high calorie food choice that could sabotage the caloric goals for many us. It is not a "free food" as Atkins would have us believe and it has virtually no health benefits. If you like it and are able to work it into your caloric goals, great. Most women would prefer something more solid such as a tossed salad with lemon juice, an apple, an egg, or even a fiber-one english muffin than a tablespoon of butter.

Honestly I don't believe your speak for "most women"

You may want to do some unbiased research to properly educate yourself on the 'evil butter' conspiracy you feel Atkins is forcing people in to.

Most of us in here don't follow Atkins to begin with that seems to be something you are assuming however.

Guess staying private didn't really solve any trolling issues.

Who ever said butter was a "free food" wth is even going on here. Eat your yogurt margarine, be happy. But why are you railing against others who eat butter?

auntstephie321 wrote: »

Who ever said butter was a "free food" wth is even going on here. Eat your yogurt margarine, be happy. But why are you railing against others who eat butter?

I was wondering that myself.

I am sad to see this thread at all. It reeks of ignorance and rabble rousing.

For me, who eats two meals per day plus coffee, a good breakfast can be 3 eggs scrambled in butter with a couple strips of bacon and if I am feeling like dirtying another pan, a good 4-6oz of spinach sautéed in bacon grease (which I keep in a jar in the fridge) with garlic and a splash of red wine vinegar.

Dinner tonight was 1.5 portions (out of 4) of a mix of 1lb 85/15 ground beef, 1/2 lb mushrooms, 2 tbsp butter, 1/4 cup heavy cream, 64g (3 slices) of baby Swiss cheese and salt and bunches of black pepper. It was super delicious and ran me 624 calories. It will also keep me full, until mid-afternoon tomorrow.

Dinner last night was an 8oz NY strip steak, grilled medium rare, along with a good sized portion of broccoli roasted with olive oil. 600 calories at 5pm and it kept me full while I worked a 12hr night shift.

Don't have to eat fake food to lose weight.

Q_Is_Poison wrote: »

Clearly we all have our preferences. But if you don't work the tablespoon of butter into your daily caloric requirements, you will not lose weight. It is not a free food. And Fit_Goat, with all due respect, my body never adjusted to Atkins. After the initial water loss from cutting carbs, I gained weight on it. So unless you are planning on buying the folks you encourage to go on this plan, new larger sized wardrobes at the end of their high/calorie low carb dieting journey, I really do suggest that you encourage a more realistic and reasonable way of eating. BTW, anyone can say anything online. The proof is in the pudding.

I am a petite woman (by height, anyway). I have been eating a diet that is between 60 and 70% fat since October 3. I am down 36 lbs (more than halfway to my goal). The only new wardrobe I'll need at the end of my low carb/moderate protein diet is a much smaller one.

Eating a low carb/high fat diet works for many people because it naturally decreases the caloric intake. Many who have failed at calorie counting repeatedly find fat naturally satiating - and good at reducing cravings: Resolving two challenges for many people who count calories as a means of controlling consumption.

That's not why I'm eating this way - and this way of eating is more challenging for me than merely moderating my diet to lose weight is. But it allows me to keep all my fingers and toes (and the feeling therein), my eyesight, my kidneys, and my life. Because I have diabetes, shifting carb calories to protein calories does not make good sense. The only other option is to shift them to fat.

You may want to chill out a bit, do more listening, and less talking until you get your bearings. What you learn may well surprise you. And it might decrease the number of people you offend by trashing the ways of eating this forum is dedicated to, that have helped us maintain control of our health, manage our pain, and lose weight (just to name a few).

I eat 1600 calories a day full of heavy whipping cream, butter , meat , almonds etc. etc. and I am losing weight just fine ...Its not impossible ....you just have your mind made up that butter is bad for you and that is fine but you seem to have its my way or the highway kinda attitude and you won't get much support from us when your attitude kinda stinks just saying

No one is saying not to count calories or moderate your portion size.

You can't lose weight without a calorie deficit.
And no one is arguing against that fact.
Fact is, you can eat butter and still maintain a deficit if you do it right.
It's better to choose saturated or monounsaturated fats. Polyunsaturated fats are much less healthy, can cause inflammation, and should be limited.
I choose lower fat options sometimes, like half&half instead of heavy cream. Or almond milk. Of choose to not add extra fats if that is going to make my calories go too high. But I still eat plenty of saturated fat. Cheese, fatty cuts of meat, bacon grease, and coconut oil. And even butter.

I lost 100lb doing that. Eating high fat. Healthiest I've ever been.

EDIT: I'm keto, not Atkins, btw.
Carbs to ketosis.
Protein to height/LBM/activity level.
Fat to fill the rest.