Breaking the non-Low Carb mind set
IowaHomeGirl
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I'm on day four of low carb. I track on MFP and I'm keeping carbs below 50 g a day. This morning while making my eggs and sausage, I sprayed the pan before cooking the sausage. I have to consciously add butter or oil when cooking because I've done the low cal/low fat thing for so long.
Was there anything you found hard to leave behind when you went low carb?
Was there anything you found hard to leave behind when you went low carb?
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IowaHomeGirl wrote: »I'm on day four of low carb. I track on MFP and I'm keeping carbs below 50 g a day. This morning while making my eggs and sausage, I sprayed the pan before cooking the sausage. I have to consciously add butter or oil when cooking because I've done the low cal/low fat thing for so long.
Was there anything you found hard to leave behind when you went low carb?
Not eating Quest bars. Seriously, *kitten* those things, and the *kitten* who thought that IMO and Sucralose shouldn't be net carbs.3 -
What's IMO?
Oh, I have a hard time popping popcorn and not tossing the wayward kernels in my hole.
Also, testing pasta for correct al dente texture. I can't tell you how many kernels and noodles I've had to spit out!0 -
IMO=in my opinion.
My biggest hurdle was the convenience of opening a box, and calling it a meal (never was one to cook much real food). I quickly adjusted though! That stuff was killing me!!3 -
I would say just take it slowly. It took me a while to get over the whole fat=bad thing. You may find that once you realize how nice and full you stay on the higher fat intake, and how much less food you need as a result, you'll feel good about it. It might take a couple of weeks or so, but you'll get there.3
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Fatty meat cuts is hard to leave behind.
We butcher our own meat and everyone goes lean. This year I had to keep stopping them from throwing away the fat, and they still did it! I'd leave the room for a moment and they'd get trimming. I swear! LOL
I found it really weird to add fats like coconut oil to my coffee instead of sugar. Now it is one of my favorite foods.3 -
I thought not eating all the carbs at dinner that my family ate would bother me; but it was shockingly easy. Only in the last few days have I tried to stop habit eating and that's really, really tough for me.0
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SuperCarLori wrote: »What's IMO?
Oh, I have a hard time popping popcorn and not tossing the wayward kernels in my hole.
Also, testing pasta for correct al dente texture. I can't tell you how many kernels and noodles I've had to spit out!
Isomalto-ogilosaccharides, the "Fiber" used in Quest bars. Contrary to what was on the original patent papers, it's been shown to jack up blood sugar in diabetics.4 -
SuperCarLori wrote: »What's IMO?
Oh, I have a hard time popping popcorn and not tossing the wayward kernels in my hole.
Also, testing pasta for correct al dente texture. I can't tell you how many kernels and noodles I've had to spit out!
I do this with pasta and rice if Shayla isn't around to try it for me
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Not eating Quest bars. Seriously, *kitten* those things, and the *kitten* who thought that IMO and Sucralose shouldn't be net carbs.
@Gallowmere1984 ...don't eat the whole bar. Instead just have 1/4th or 1/2 of the bar. I usually cut a bar into 4ths and have a piece every day during the work week as part of my lunch. I considered it a couple of bites worth of mid-day dessert because of the sweet flavors. lol1 -
I've found it very hard to reduce my vegetable consumption. I tried to eat 20 grams max of carbs for a while, but I missed veggies too much and was unwilling to give up dairy and nuts. Surprisingly, I have found it much less challenging to cut other carbs thanks to my dramatically increased fat intake. However, I still struggle with this mentally and won't feel better about it until I see what my lipids look like when I have my physical next month. I've upped my carbs a bit and am counting net carbs now. I'm still trying to find my carb 'sweet spot.'3
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It was a little hard - and scary - to adjust to eating high calorie meals for me too. I was used to "saving" calories where ever I could so I could eat more often. Now it's the exact opposite. I add calories to my meals in order to eat less frequently.3
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Fatty meat cuts is hard to leave behind.
My dear old dad was a meat cutter, and regularly brought home roasts and pork chops and lovely fatty meat for the family dinners. Then in the late 70s, my mom became "health conscious" and we all started cutting off the excess fat.
When I moved to Japan in the early 80s, I was shocked that everyone there still ate all that fatty stuff on the tonkatsu and yakitori! Wasn't it bad for me?? I asked. No, it's delicious! my boyfriend told me. So I shrugged, and guiltily ate some of it... until I just began to love it. So when I found LCHF, it was like coming home again. Now I am guilt-free! Love that tonkatsu...5 -
I've found it very hard to reduce my vegetable consumption. I tried to eat 20 grams max of carbs for a while, but I missed veggies too much and was unwilling to give up dairy and nuts. Surprisingly, I have found it much less challenging to cut other carbs thanks to my dramatically increased fat intake. However, I still struggle with this mentally and won't feel better about it until I see what my lipids look like when I have my physical next month. I've upped my carbs a bit and am counting net carbs now. I'm still trying to find my carb 'sweet spot.'
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Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.4 -
Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.
It's like living in a frickin horror movie (carbage popping up everywhere in your face out of nowhere), but you get used to it. I'm 2.5 years in, and it rarely phases me anymore. Pancakes? Don't care. Candy? Don't care. Chips? Pfffft. If I want chocolate, that's doable. Whiskey? Yup. So ummmm...chocolate, whiskey and fatty meat? Does anyone really require more than that?
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Hardest thing for me is not getting delivery food! Also, I didn't find this particularly "hard to give up" but more so "training my brain to think differently" was that a lot of high-sugar fruits and fruit juices are just as bad for you as candy. Also related to that, whey protein powder does not need to be added to increase my protein while managing calorie intake (ie limiting fat), it's much better to get protein from whole foods and I likely get more than I really need. Lastly (hmm more than I thought once I start thinking about it), the notion of constantly eating so that your metabolism isn't slowed down even when you are not hungry because that's what I was told to do on the MF.2
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baconslave wrote: »Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.
It's like living in a frickin horror movie (carbage popping up everywhere in your face out of nowhere), but you get used to it. I'm 2.5 years in, and it rarely phases me anymore. Pancakes? Don't care. Candy? Don't care. Chips? Pfffft. If I want chocolate, that's doable. Whiskey? Yup. So ummmm...chocolate, whiskey and fatty meat? Does anyone really require more than that?
It does get to the point where it really doesn't matter. I am the only keto/carnivore in the house and we have carbage that would make people break out in sweats and tremors but its just crap to me so I don't eat it. My wife made spaghetti last night and got a fresh loaf of French bread to go with it and the only thing I ate was the sauce (since we always put meat in the sauce). I even cut the bread loaf for my wife, daughter and grand kids w/o even being tempted to eat any of it. Freaks my wife out that I have the control to do things like that, but it is what it is and it just comes naturally after awhile.2 -
baconslave wrote: »Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.
It's like living in a frickin horror movie (carbage popping up everywhere in your face out of nowhere), but you get used to it. I'm 2.5 years in, and it rarely phases me anymore. Pancakes? Don't care. Candy? Don't care. Chips? Pfffft. If I want chocolate, that's doable. Whiskey? Yup. So ummmm...chocolate, whiskey and fatty meat? Does anyone really require more than that?
It does get to the point where it really doesn't matter. I am the only keto/carnivore in the house and we have carbage that would make people break out in sweats and tremors but its just crap to me so I don't eat it. My wife made spaghetti last night and got a fresh loaf of French bread to go with it and the only thing I ate was the sauce (since we always put meat in the sauce). I even cut the bread loaf for my wife, daughter and grand kids w/o even being tempted to eat any of it. Freaks my wife out that I have the control to do things like that, but it is what it is and it just comes naturally after awhile.
I'm exactly the same way. I can cook that stuff for them and sit right there and it doesn't even register as being food to my brain.2 -
baconslave wrote: »Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.
It's like living in a frickin horror movie (carbage popping up everywhere in your face out of nowhere), but you get used to it. I'm 2.5 years in, and it rarely phases me anymore. Pancakes? Don't care. Candy? Don't care. Chips? Pfffft. If I want chocolate, that's doable. Whiskey? Yup. So ummmm...chocolate, whiskey and fatty meat? Does anyone really require more than that?
It does get to the point where it really doesn't matter. I am the only keto/carnivore in the house and we have carbage that would make people break out in sweats and tremors but its just crap to me so I don't eat it. My wife made spaghetti last night and got a fresh loaf of French bread to go with it and the only thing I ate was the sauce (since we always put meat in the sauce). I even cut the bread loaf for my wife, daughter and grand kids w/o even being tempted to eat any of it. Freaks my wife out that I have the control to do things like that, but it is what it is and it just comes naturally after awhile.
Right there with you. My wife is amazed at the way I gave up the popcorn and ice cream over night. However, she is very happy I did given the improvement in my BG.2 -
The hardest thing for me is the convenience of bread. It makes yummy things portable! Also, tortilla chips with my guac and salsa.2
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Out of all the things in the world, I just miss chips and salsa! Haha. I suppose I could use pork rinds, but salsa isn't very keto friendly itself.0
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Being from the south, the hardest thing is grits. I looooove grits. Sausage gravy and biscuits were hard too until I made the sausage gravy for my kiddos with heavy cream and cream cheese to thicken it, then poured it over my fried egg. It was awesome, and I didn't feel deprived.0
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.
It's like living in a frickin horror movie (carbage popping up everywhere in your face out of nowhere), but you get used to it. I'm 2.5 years in, and it rarely phases me anymore. Pancakes? Don't care. Candy? Don't care. Chips? Pfffft. If I want chocolate, that's doable. Whiskey? Yup. So ummmm...chocolate, whiskey and fatty meat? Does anyone really require more than that?
It does get to the point where it really doesn't matter. I am the only keto/carnivore in the house and we have carbage that would make people break out in sweats and tremors but its just crap to me so I don't eat it. My wife made spaghetti last night and got a fresh loaf of French bread to go with it and the only thing I ate was the sauce (since we always put meat in the sauce). I even cut the bread loaf for my wife, daughter and grand kids w/o even being tempted to eat any of it. Freaks my wife out that I have the control to do things like that, but it is what it is and it just comes naturally after awhile.
I'm exactly the same way. I can cook that stuff for them and sit right there and it doesn't even register as being food to my brain.
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XavierNusum wrote: »The hardest thing for me is the convenience of bread. It makes yummy things portable! Also, tortilla chips with my guac and salsa.
Oh guac is good on pork rinds. I do pork rind nachos too. So delicious. I could fit salsa into my carb count if I wanted it badly enough when I was keto. Now that I'm just LCHF, then I can fit some in regularly.2 -
elephant2mouse wrote: »Out of all the things in the world, I just miss chips and salsa! Haha. I suppose I could use pork rinds, but salsa isn't very keto friendly itself.
Make your own salsa. If you just use peppers, you'd be amazed at how much of it you can eat. The hotter you like it, the easier it will be to accomplish.
For some salsa-esque condiments: http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/01/holy-keto-condiments-this-just-in-keto.html
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missippibelle wrote: »Being from the south, the hardest thing is grits. I looooove grits. Sausage gravy and biscuits were hard too until I made the sausage gravy for my kiddos with heavy cream and cream cheese to thicken it, then poured it over my fried egg. It was awesome, and I didn't feel deprived.
Having been born in the south and having lived their for half my life, I acquired a fondness for grits and biscuits/gravy. I feel your pain. The sliced hog jowl is still ok...
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baconslave wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Glad I found this thread. I had to think for awhile on if there was anything I found myself doing, or that I missed. I have to say that I can't think of any right now. I have had the opposite problem, where I tend to go overboard in giving myself permission to have more butter, more fatty meat, cheese etc., and I grew up in the '70s and '80s, the era of Jane Fonda and Richard Simmons being the queen and king of no pain/no gain & "Farewell to fat", seeing my dad get told to consume no more butter and only egg white substitutes. "Whole grain" seemed like a healthful term to me until probably 2 years ago.
Also, kudos to all of you who live with others who aren't LCHF/keto! I live in a bubble where my entire existence is keto-friendly and there's nothing I could eat that could throw me off.
Being at home for Christmas was another story. I'm not so much tempted as I am just encouraged to relax - so I had to finally tell my family that one small 'relaxation' meal threw me off weight loss for almost 2 weeks.
It's like living in a frickin horror movie (carbage popping up everywhere in your face out of nowhere), but you get used to it. I'm 2.5 years in, and it rarely phases me anymore. Pancakes? Don't care. Candy? Don't care. Chips? Pfffft. If I want chocolate, that's doable. Whiskey? Yup. So ummmm...chocolate, whiskey and fatty meat? Does anyone really require more than that?
It does get to the point where it really doesn't matter. I am the only keto/carnivore in the house and we have carbage that would make people break out in sweats and tremors but its just crap to me so I don't eat it. My wife made spaghetti last night and got a fresh loaf of French bread to go with it and the only thing I ate was the sauce (since we always put meat in the sauce). I even cut the bread loaf for my wife, daughter and grand kids w/o even being tempted to eat any of it. Freaks my wife out that I have the control to do things like that, but it is what it is and it just comes naturally after awhile.
I'm exactly the same way. I can cook that stuff for them and sit right there and it doesn't even register as being food to my brain.
Exactly.
I have not managed to wrap my stubborn, under-evolved noggin around the idea of preparing non-food for others.
"Honey, I made you some socks, stuffed binder clips, and crispy pages from Revelations for dinner."
OTOH, "would you like to join me for a gin & diet tonic?" seems to work fine.
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »SuperCarLori wrote: »What's IMO?
Oh, I have a hard time popping popcorn and not tossing the wayward kernels in my hole.
Also, testing pasta for correct al dente texture. I can't tell you how many kernels and noodles I've had to spit out!
Isomalto-ogilosaccharides, the "Fiber" used in Quest bars. Contrary to what was on the original patent papers, it's been shown to jack up blood sugar in diabetics.
So that's Frankenfiber
What makes it fiber at all?1 -
@Gallomere1984
Great Sauces on your blog, the chimichurri sounds especially great --- I've only ever had it at restaurants.
@Elephant2Mouse
Trader Joe's Parsnip Chips - but add extra salt on them , they can be worked into a Lc day if I plan ahead.0 -
Meant to add, in our home we still have rice, pasta, cookies, ice cream etc, as mentioned above, my brain no longer registers those items as food.
Thank Goodness that I don't care about them and I don't miss any of it. Now I'm not so sure they are or ever were edible.0
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