Butter & Other Fats
JohnnyLowCarb
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I am relatively new to the LCHF diet, I totally understand that we have to increase our fat intake to compensate for the low carbs in our diets and many many video, posts, talk about how you have to increase and add natural butter for a source of the fat. Maybe a real stupid question but can I replace the butter source and get my equivalent fat from mayonnaise?
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There is no rule that you have to get your fat from butter. Some people just don't like butter or just not enough to eat it in excess. The reason why it's suggested is because it's a pretty easy way to add the fat from butter. It can be used for sauteing veggies, making creamy sauces, in your coffee, etc etc. But yes, if you have a lot of dishes where mayonnaise is required (or you just like to eat mayonnaise right off the spoon) then by all means, get your fat from that (just stay away from low-fat mayonnaise, you may also want to look into mayonnaise made with olive oil instead of canola oil).1
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You can. Some mayonnaise is made from oils that aren't the best and can promote inflammation in some people so that's something to be aware of.1
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If you're going to eat a lot of mayonnaise the oil in it will matter. It's kind of difficult to find it without soybean or canola or other industrial oils. Your body cannot use those fats for fuel, so unless your mayo does not contain them, then no, you cannot just use mayo instead of butter.5
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I've used mayonnaise extensively, especially on a fat fast. It's hard for me to get 6tbsp of mayo down the gullet without a bulky delivery vehicle, though so I used lots of veggies to help. My typical fat fast meal was 2.5 cups broccoli, 6TBSP mayo, and a very fatty protein source (most frozen prepared meatballs are very high in fat vs protein). I can easily get to 90% fat this way. Lately, I've been leaning more on heavy whipping cream to up my fat.3
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Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!3
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Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!
You can also do homemade mayo with avocado oil. I find that tastes much better than olive oil mayos which can be bitter, even using high quality EVOO. You might want to sub at least part of the OO with avocado.
And welcome to LCD.6 -
Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!
Darn, I was hoping that wasn't the answer. I love Hellman's mayo.2 -
retirehappy wrote: »Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!
You can also do homemade mayo with avocado oil. I find that tastes much better than olive oil mayos which can be bitter, even using high quality EVOO. You might want to sub at least part of the OO with avocado.
And welcome to LCD.
@retirehappy - Do you have a good recipe? (forgive my ignorance if we're talking oil+egg+salt simplicity, I've never done mayo)1 -
Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!
Darn, I was hoping that wasn't the answer. I love Hellman's mayo.
Me too! i am going to finish what I have in the frig and then try to make my own. I am finding anything commercially made is not good for the LCHF diet.0 -
Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!
Darn, I was hoping that wasn't the answer. I love Hellman's mayo.
Me too! i am going to finish what I have in the frig and then try to make my own. I am finding anything commercially made is not good for the LCHF diet.
Heh, I know. No shortcuts allowed! I have found some 'low-carb' protein bars as a last resort which I will forgive, but apart from that it's all home made.0 -
If you really like mayo, here is an easy recipe to make your own using olive oil:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/blender-mayonnaise-51183000
Also, be careful of blue cheese dressing as most of those use soybean oil. Here is a recipe for that as well:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/blue-cheese-dressing
Companies will generally use the cheapest ingredients, which will often be soybean since there are such huge government subsidies to farmers who grow it.4 -
Here is the basic recipe I use:
http://thehealthyfoodie.com/fail-proof-home-made-paleo-mayo-whole30-compliant/
It uses immersion blender, you can do this in a food processor if you don't have one, just mix all but oil into the bowl, then drizzle the oil into the bowl using the tiny hole in the food processor's food plunger while processing. It goes quickly with either device.1 -
cstehansen wrote: »If you really like mayo, here is an easy recipe to make your own using olive oil:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/blender-mayonnaise-51183000
Also, be careful of blue cheese dressing as most of those use soybean oil. Here is a recipe for that as well:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/blue-cheese-dressing
Companies will generally use the cheapest ingredients, which will often be soybean since there are such huge government subsidies to farmers who grow it.
Thank you! Yes, trying to get 100% off soybean and canola.retirehappy wrote: »Here is the basic recipe I use:
http://thehealthyfoodie.com/fail-proof-home-made-paleo-mayo-whole30-compliant/
It uses immersion blender, you can do this in a food processor if you don't have one, just mix all but oil into the bowl, then drizzle the oil into the bowl using the tiny hole in the food processor's food plunger while processing. It goes quickly with either device.
Thank you! I have an immersion blender...whew! I was afraid I had to whisk the whole thing!
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retirehappy wrote: »Here is the basic recipe I use:
http://thehealthyfoodie.com/fail-proof-home-made-paleo-mayo-whole30-compliant/
It uses immersion blender, you can do this in a food processor if you don't have one, just mix all but oil into the bowl, then drizzle the oil into the bowl using the tiny hole in the food processor's food plunger while processing. It goes quickly with either device.
Well thank you for that! In 5 minutes, I gathered up the ingredients, a perfect sized jar and my immersion blender and made some. Pretty tasty!
I used lime juice since I had some limes on hand. Will try lemon or vinegar next batch. Possibly avocado oil. I'm not a huge fan of olive oil for many things which is why I had the extra light available. I made mayo years and years ago but don't remember it whipping up so nicely. Must be the immersion blender versus regular blender that I had way back when.1 -
Thanks all! Yep I was talking about Hellmans Mayo, which is made from Soybean. It looks like another example of anything commercially processed is bad and I found a homemade mayo recipe with olive oil that I will try to make my own! Appreciate all the help, a newbie here for sure but you guys are very helpful!
Darn, I was hoping that wasn't the answer. I love Hellman's mayo.
Me too! i am going to finish what I have in the frig and then try to make my own. I am finding anything commercially made is not good for the LCHF diet.
There's a brand called Primal Kitchen that I believe is available at most grocery stores. It's more expensive than mayonnaise using canola and/or soybean oil. This mayo uses Avocado oil.2 -
How about trying a lot more variety of healthy fats in various ways? Coconut milk and coconut oil, bacon fat, heavy whipping cream, avocado, nuts, cheese, fattier cuts of meat, etc. I use different fats for different dishes1
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I attempted to eat coconut oil last night on a spoon. it was an interesting experience. I did about a 1/2 Tbs before I stopped. It was just too weird! I wish we had KerryGold butter here in WI.
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AngiesCookie wrote: »I attempted to eat coconut oil last night on a spoon. it was an interesting experience. I did about a 1/2 Tbs before I stopped. It was just too weird! I wish we had KerryGold butter here in WI.
I know what you mean. I lick the spoon after using it and I couldn't imagine eating a spoon full. I've added lime juice and coconut and frozen it to make a bomb and it makes it a bit better, but still feels weird.0 -
AngiesCookie wrote: »I attempted to eat coconut oil last night on a spoon. it was an interesting experience. I did about a 1/2 Tbs before I stopped. It was just too weird! I wish we had KerryGold butter here in WI.
I am in the camp that doesn't see the need to eat straight fat. There are enough ways to use it in a way that makes food taste better and aren't weird. I mix coconut oil and olive oil together sometimes when sauteing veggies, for instance. I also combine one of those with bacon grease for the same purpose as I like to add bacon to veggies like the Brussels sprouts below.
I think we are better eating real foods and using fats to enhance them rather than just eating fats to hit some magical macro ratio. The quality of what you are eating - including micronutrients - as important if not more important for overall health.
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cstehansen wrote: »AngiesCookie wrote: »I attempted to eat coconut oil last night on a spoon. it was an interesting experience. I did about a 1/2 Tbs before I stopped. It was just too weird! I wish we had KerryGold butter here in WI.
I am in the camp that doesn't see the need to eat straight fat. There are enough ways to use it in a way that makes food taste better and aren't weird. I mix coconut oil and olive oil together sometimes when sauteing veggies, for instance. I also combine one of those with bacon grease for the same purpose as I like to add bacon to veggies like the Brussels sprouts below.
I think we are better eating real foods and using fats to enhance them rather than just eating fats to hit some magical macro ratio. The quality of what you are eating - including micronutrients - as important if not more important for overall health.
I agree. There's absolutely no reason to ever just eat a spoonful of fat. If you're hungry, eat food.1 -
There's nothing wrong with eating a spoonful of fat. If someone likes coconut oil that is just as (or more) pleasing to them as eating a piece of chicken skin or a piece of pork fat or beef fat is to others. Coconut oil is food-something that is eaten for nourishment. Is fat not an essential nutrient?
Many would find it rather repulsive to throw a bunch of bones in a pot and simmer them until all the marrow and other substances have left the bone and be thoroughly disgusted at the thought of drinking the broth. Some people favor it.Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »There's absolutely no reason to ever just eat a spoonful of fat. If you're hungry, eat food.
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There's nothing wrong with eating a spoonful of fat. If someone likes coconut oil that is just as (or more) pleasing to them as eating a piece of chicken skin or a piece of pork fat or beef fat is to others. Coconut oil is food-something that is eaten for nourishment. Is fat not an essential nutrient?
Many would find it rather repulsive to throw a bunch of bones in a pot and simmer them until all the marrow and other substances have left the bone and be thoroughly disgusted at the thought of drinking the broth. Some people favor it.Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »There's absolutely no reason to ever just eat a spoonful of fat. If you're hungry, eat food.
If someone wants to eat it because they like it, that's a totally different thing.
This didn't sound like it was being eaten for that reason.AngiesCookie wrote: »I attempted to eat coconut oil last night on a spoon. it was an interesting experience. I did about a 1/2 Tbs before I stopped. It was just too weird! I wish we had KerryGold butter here in WI.0 -
I've tried the Primal Kitchen mayo and it's not bad. Personally, I found it a bit too sour for my taste so I sweetened up the jar with a few drops of EZ-Sweetz (I'm a previous Miracle Whip lover); however, more recently I found a brand of mayo called "Chosen Foods" being sold at Costco of all places! The ingredients in it are really clean - equivalent to those in the Primal Kitchen brand - except the jar is larger so you get more and the price is either about the same as Primal Kitchen or a little less. I noticed that the Chosen Foods brand still tasted sour to me but not as sour as the Primal Kitchen brand so, yes, I sweetened this bottle with a few drops of EZ-sweetz too...but I used less sweetener than I had to with the Primal Kitchen brand fwiw. I'm actually considering moving away from full-fat mayo's (yes, heresy, I know) and trying out some of the various Walden farms brands of mayo simply because I get plenty of other healthy fat from many different sources in my diet and having in essence a zero-calorie mayo would help me better manage calories especially in recipes that call for mayo or when I want something as simple as a sandwich.0
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Also, depending on how much fat you have to lose, a good portion of your fat "macro" will come from your own body:
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