Keto Diet

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nikkib0103
nikkib0103 Posts: 968 Member
edited July 2018 in Social Groups
Has anyone tried this diet? It reads like the Atkins with berries thrown in. My sister wants to try it on the advice of a friend who always finds these miracle diets. I just find eliminating carbs trying and irksome and am not enthused about it. What has been your experiences if any?
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  • Just_Ceci
    Just_Ceci Posts: 5,926 Member
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    I have a close friend who has had great success with it. I don't even want to try.
    :p
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    http://www.ketoreset.com/book/

    I’d recommend this book highly to learn what it is and isn't. It’s a long way from the old unsustainable Atkins diet. It takes some willpower to drop sugar and carbs from your diet, but well worth the lifestyle change in my opinion.
  • nikkib0103
    nikkib0103 Posts: 968 Member
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    Farback, you are a constant inspiration. Will check out book and go for it. You are a fabulous testimonial.
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    nikkib0103 wrote: »
    Farback, you are a constant inspiration. Will check out book and go for it. You are a fabulous testimonial.
    I’m blushing under the tan. Thanks for the kind words.
  • alteredsteve175
    alteredsteve175 Posts: 2,716 Member
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    I followed the keto plan for about 5 months. I like to eat meat, and I found it easy to follow. I lost weight, but I also started losing the ability to lift more weight and had less energy in the gym.

    I took a diet break at maintenance and then went back to eating a more balanced diet. I am lifting more weight again, and have more energy for workouts. Not losing right now, but I am easing the calorie target down slowly.

    It was a tradeoff for me. I think that each of us has to find a diet or eating plan that works for us. There is no "one size fits all" when it comes to food intake.
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
    edited August 2018
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    I agree Steve, no plan fits everyone, and I describe myself as low carb if asked. I don’t need the drama and lectures the word ‘Keto’ brings. This works for me, but I certainly don’t knock on people’s doors to sell the ‘one true way’.

    PS Are you a bow hunter?
  • alteredsteve175
    alteredsteve175 Posts: 2,716 Member
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    Farback wrote: »
    I agree Steve, no plan fits everyone, and I describe myself as low carb if asked. I don’t need the drama and lectures the word ‘Keto’ brings. This works for me, but I certainly don’t knock on people’s doors to sell the ‘one true way’.

    No kidding. I have a good friend who lost some weight on a low carb plan, but did not exercise at all. He complained that he lost muscle mass instead of fat. He lectured me several times about the evils of keto and low carb eating. I've tried to get him to the gym with me, but no success so far.
    PS Are you a bow hunter?
    I am a rifle hunter who has friends who bow hunt. I have dabbled in the sport, but have not gotten serious about it. I need another expensive hobby. HAHA!


  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
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    I've briefly done Keto. Wasn't for me. I do think it's very useful for some. I believe it's the most effective way to lose weight and it's great for "resetting" your metabolism. What I personally didn't like about it is I do athletic training. For me (personally), I felt awful on it. Now, I only gave it less than a month. Many claim you have to give it longer than that.

    Look, it's much better than the average Western diet. If someone can stick to it, great for them (great job Farback!). The only issues I have with it are you're eating a crap ton of meat/animal products, which isn't for me personally. You mentioned berries. I'm working on breaking into Microbiome Therapeutics companies as a consultant currently so I read/come across a lot of the latest research. Berries/Polyphenols are huge for the gut health. If someone does Keto, I'd say to ensure they're getting a lot of tart berries, green tea and eating a lot of green, leafy veggies. I'd also (personally if I were doing keto) consider supplementing with fiber, especially inulin. Also, eating a lot of asparagus, unsweetened coconut and other natural sources of fiber. If I were to do Keto, also, with the research I've seen, I'd want a lot of my fats from coconut and olive oil and stick to relatively lean meats. I'm not a fan of all the bacon/red meat that some do on Keto. You'll still lose weight but you might as well be doing the old Atkins. There is a lot of research coming out that red meats/animal products high in animal fat spike inflammation because they shift your Microbiome ratios from one type to another that is pro inflammatory. You can get the benefits of Keto by eating leaner meats like chicken breast and fish and loading up on grass fed butter, coconut oil and olive oil, avocados and the like and have a much healthier version of it. These are my opinions based on extensive reading that I've done over the last few years.

    Keto also is the number one diet I see people choose when they don't want to move/exercise, likely because it works the best and they're not fond of exercise. Not many do keto and sweat like Farback is in the picture, he's the rare exception. I know a lot of rowers/runners that are ultra low carb and do exceptionally well. As long as someone still moves more, it's a decent way to lose a lot of weight.
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    Thanks Mike. I agree with the points you’ve made. I do avoid bacon and fatty meats. It just seems wrong to me as a health nut. I eat a lot of lean meat, limited beef, mainly chicken and fish. Lots of berries, nuts and veggies. A lot of the ‘hooray bacon!’ Side of keto seems wrong to me.
  • nikkib0103
    nikkib0103 Posts: 968 Member
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    Well it is going well so far. I am craving a cold Pepsi though. Lost 8 pounds the first week. I know it's water weight but still encouraging!
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    Congrats Nikki! It’s a long road, and a lot of commitment. You’ll likely see a weight loss stall after a couple months, but continue to see clothes getting too big with body composition changes.
  • nikkib0103
    nikkib0103 Posts: 968 Member
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    Farback wrote: »
    Congrats Nikki! It’s a long road, and a lot of commitment. You’ll likely see a weight loss stall after a couple months, but continue to see clothes getting too big with body composition changes.

    Thanks, Farback. It already stalked this week! Not a surprise. No matter what diet I do, if I have a big loss one week my hips get scared and hold on tight. I am hoping to reach goal by next bikini season. So I have time for slowdowns and pitfalls.
  • UncleMac
    UncleMac Posts: 12,924 Member
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    When I first started my path to fitness, I did the program at the Bariatric Medical Institute, a clinic started by Dr. Yoni Freedhoff, a medical physician who observed that many patients at his practice had conditions that were linked or acerbated by obesity. He looked about for resources to do referrals but there wasn't specialist clinics in Ottawa so he created his own. His approach to finding a healthy weight and living a healthy lifestyle guided my progress.

    All of that to say... here's a link to an article produced by the dietitians at the BMI... While they're not saying no to keto, they see others are healthier choices.

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2007618382636213&id=152155658182504
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    I agree, keto done to extremes can be dangerous. I’m on a keto site where people are recommending things I’d never attempt, like 5 day fasts, complete meat diets, all sorts of things my instincts tells me are likely to lead to a bad end. There’s a lot of supplements people use as well, not something I’m interested in. I’m careful to make sure I get my electrolytes, after a bad experience with a five mile run in high heat.

    With a cautious approach, four months in I’m feeling great and hovering around 170 pounds, 4 less than I weighed when I graduated high school in 1970 ought 4.
  • BBee5064
    BBee5064 Posts: 1,020 Member
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    I agree with Nikki, Farback . you are a constant inspiration Keto obviously works for you.
    My issue with it .. I’m a vegetarian & it seems to be a meat eaters diet. Am I correct in assuming that?
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    Thanks B. It doesn’t have to be meat where the protein comes from. I’ve read there are many vegetarians and vegans who are keto. One of my daughters and her man are vegans.
  • Farback
    Farback Posts: 1,067 Member
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    I’m not hard core on the keto front, I stay low carb but indulge in fish and chips on occasion. Presently I’m between 165 to 170 pounds, and in the shape of my life (discounting this present shingles thing)
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,170 Member
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    BBee5064 wrote: »
    I agree with Nikki, Farback . you are a constant inspiration Keto obviously works for you.
    My issue with it .. I’m a vegetarian & it seems to be a meat eaters diet. Am I correct in assuming that?

    Keto is a little more challenging for us vegetarians because some of our standard protein sources are higher in carbs, as well as just the general principle that the more food restrictions one adds, the more complicated/difficult things get. But vegetarian keto can be done, as Farback said. (I like my carbs too much to try: A low-legume life is not a happy life, in my world! ;) )
  • nikkib0103
    nikkib0103 Posts: 968 Member
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    Uncle Mac, I had great success with the DASH Diet in the past. Going back to,it.