Vitamin K2
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GaleHawkins wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »I think Chris Masterjohn is really smart but wrong in some things like most gurus.
That is often the case. What do you see Chris is wrong about specifically?
I'd like to check out his diet but it's all behind a paywall. One point is that he thinks the Methionine-Glycine Ratio is so important and that you need collagen. Of course he sells collagen. I think this is easily solved with delicious kielbasa a few times a week if it's even necessary. Maybe it does have some benefit and extra glycine will help certain issues. There is so much information out there to study.
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TheDevastator wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »TheDevastator wrote: »I think Chris Masterjohn is really smart but wrong in some things like most gurus.
That is often the case. What do you see Chris is wrong about specifically?
I'd like to check out his diet but it's all behind a paywall. One point is that he thinks the Methionine-Glycine Ratio is so important and that you need collagen. Of course he sells collagen. I think this is easily solved with delicious kielbasa a few times a week if it's even necessary. Maybe it does have some benefit and extra glycine will help certain issues. There is so much information out there to study.
I read Carolyn Dean's, M.D. The Miracle of Magnesium and now I am half way through her 2017 up date called The Magnesium Miracle. It has a lot of good info but it is one big promotion for her line of solutions to health problems. I did order her liquid Mg today because everything the wife tries upsets her. Dean indicates her ReMag is effective as by IV in a hospital setting. One problem I had was she states to not take more than 2,000 units of Vit D3 because it puts a demand for more Mg to get it to work. Did she never think of selling one more of her ReMag to fix that concern?
I just finished Jeff T Bowles 2019 Vit D3 book called The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases What Doctors Never Learned. The Kindle version is more complete with charts and graphs and the hyper links are actually live but it appears to be self published and he was trying to hold down the cost of the paper back. The info is what I was looking for but it is not a smooth read due to the lack of editing. He thinks 2,000 units of D3 is a non starter with 5,000 units as a starting point with cases claiming up to 1 million units. He has a lot of links where doctors are resolving MS side effects with mega doses of D3.
In my case I just read the good, bad and ugly and let my brain sort it out over the coming years.
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https://prnewswire.com/news-releases/doctor-dean-warns-too-little-magnesium-can-affect-heart-health-184276291.html#:~:text=Calcium%20causes%20muscles%20to%20contract,too%20quickly%20(tachycardia).%22
This is the Dr Dean I mentioned above. In reading her last book on the subject this morning she stated calcium build up in the arteries was due to low magnesium levels and by correcting that issue would start to remove that calcium build-up which was news to me. Vitamin D3 and K2 I knew about. Had anyone read this about magnesium levels?0 -
I know that magnesium helps stop calcium buildup in cells. I'm not sure where I read it though. I think it was in the Magnesium Miracle too but that’s not where I first read it.0
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I can't remember which study it was but it mentioned that calcium and magnesium attach to the same receptors in the cells so they can compete with each other. Maybe why the decades of concentration on calcium supplements and focus on 'dairy for your bones' could exacerbate magnesium deficiency. I'm just on my phone at work so I'll check my desktop later....0
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I've also read that with adequate magnesium in a cell, calcium is balanced and extra is forced out. I really would like to remember where that was from though. Dairy is good for the bones as long as they are getting all the other essential minerals but not in excess like a lot of people get.0
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I need to get in the habit of reading books again but it's true that anyone can self publish an eBook nowadays. I have several carnivore books that I've yet to read.1
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"Because calcium is typically an excitatory cofactor, the mineral usually enters a cell only when needed for something specific, like a nervous impulse or a muscle contraction. After such an action occurs, magnesium helps active transporters pump calcium out of a cell."
magnesium.ca/how-magnesium-works/
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https://medicaldialogues.in/diabetes-endocrinology/perspective/vitamin-k2-supplementation-lowers-risk-in-type-2-diabetes-mellitus-review-73072
While some of us use Vit K2 to lower Coronary Artery Calcium Scores K2 seems to perform other health benefits as well.0 -
Raw grass fed cheese is really high in K2 so I’m choosing that. Also I’m addicted to grass fed unsalted butter.2
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i read that natto is a great source of k2. however,just try to find it a small town..1
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SFFirebird wrote: »i read that natto is a great source of k2. however,just try to find it a small town..
Same here so I just go with K2 MK7 as my main K2 supplement.0 -
Soy is highly estrogenic so not good for men.0
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TheDevastator wrote: »Soy is highly estrogenic so not good for men.
Does that included NATTO which is fermented?0 -
I always wonder though, if soy is so bad for you why isn't it a problem in Asia.... half a billion Asian men can't all be wrong, lol.2
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@GaleHawkins I’m not sure if the fermentation process removes some in natto.
Maybe you are right @canadjineh that it’s not as bad as some organizations like Weston A. Price say it is. I know soy in the U.S. usually is full of roundup which has its own issues but maybe organic is better for you. I love miso and miss having it. I guess I can experiment and see if there is any effect in N=1.0 -
Actually I’m going to stick with carnivore and not buy miso. For the price($6.50 for 8 oz.), I’d rather buy meat, eggs, butter, or cheese.1
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If you want high K2, pepperoni is the highest in it according to the USDA database.
https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrient-ranking-tool/Menaquinone-4/All/Highest/Household/Common-SR/No1 -
https://youtu.be/O8O4IF5IFX8
I watched this today. I had forgotten how K2 is required for strong bones.0 -
canadjineh wrote: »I always wonder though, if soy is so bad for you why isn't it a problem in Asia.... half a billion Asian men can't all be wrong, lol.
Right, and the studies don't seem to support that claim.0 -
I believe beans aren't really necessary and have some anti-nutrients even when cooked not to say I won't eat them again someday. Most of them have a lot of folate and have a nice profile on a nutritional database.1
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I do supplement daily with Full Spectrum Vitamin K2 (InnovixLabs brand). I usually take 2 capsules a day - 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening. 1 capsule = 600mcg (500 mcg of MK-4 as menantetranone & 100 mcg of MK-7 as menaquinone).1
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Supplementing is good but who knows how much is absorbable. Obviously it’s better to get it from the real foods. I do both.1
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The masses can always be wrong. Here in Wisconsin U.S.A. beer is practically worshipped but is also highly estrogenic with hops being a main ingredient. I guess it doesn't hurt testosterone that much in moderation.canadjineh wrote: »I always wonder though, if soy is so bad for you why isn't it a problem in Asia.... half a billion Asian men can't all be wrong, lol.
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I don't supplement but I ensure I eat sauerkraut, kimchi and fermented and pickled vegetables which is high in K20
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We can supplement fat soluble vitamins but they need fat to be soluble. Also they need your gallbladder and liver to be working well to breakdown and metabolise the fat which get transported with the fat soluble vitamins around the body. with such a low fat diet we are making ourselves deficient and breaking down our gallbladders as they do not have to release bile anymore because fat is not really being consumed. BTW we are made up of cells which is made from saturated fat and proteins. We need these essential fatty acids (saturated fat) and essential amino acids (proteins) to build the cells which rebuilt every 3 to 6 months. If we don't consume saturated fat in the correct doses we are not supplying the correct fatty acids for cell rebuilding. Vegetable oils is not the correct molecular structure our cells are built from and need to rebuild continually and this includes our organs and brain.1
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yes, fats are necessary to absorb k2 so I try to eat something with it. All the foods have some fat that I'm currently eating(carnivore). Most vegetable oils are toxic to the body. Coconut oil is the best one if you have to have any. I'd rather choose butter, beef, and pork fat.1
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trying again, last post disappeared...
This Dr. Campbell video is about Vit D and he takes 2 different home tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS2VObw1UeI 0 -
I don't worry about testing Vitamin D. I take 5,000 - 10,000 IU every few days or every day if I remember and I think that's going to keep it in the normal to high normal range.1
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finally found k2 supplements. for me i love my side effects which seem to include a higher hdl, a much lower ldl and better blood pressure..0
