But didn't you know? The Bible says the wife must always submit to her husband!

Why am I an atheist again?

As a Baptist in the South, I can assure you that those are blanket generalizations on both cultures.

I have never been to a wedding where a woman promised to support the male without the male making equal vows, and I never met anyone at my small-town Liberal Arts college that attented college only to find a husband.

But y'all can all continue to think that, and I can continue to hold the belief that everyone from Jersey is white trash. Sound good?

As a Baptist in the South, I can assure you that those are blanket generalizations on both cultures.

I have never been to a wedding where a woman promised to support the male without the male making equal vows, and I never met anyone at my small-town Liberal Arts college that attented college only to find a husband.

But y'all can all continue to think that, and I can continue to hold the belief that everyone from Jersey is white trash. Sound good?

So are you saying that the poster who talked about the wedding she went to was lying? Or simply saying that "I've never seen that happen, so it must not."

Because I do know women who went to college to find husbands. It does happen. The world is bigger than your experiences.

I never said it didn't happen...I'm saying the same thing you are, which is that the world is bigger than any of our experiences.

I feel like all day today I have seen people make general blanket statements, such as yours in the religion thread, about how a certain subset of people WILL act based on their upbringing/religion/education/whatever.

All I'm saying is to stop the generalizing.

I did apologize for the generalization, BTW...not from Jersey, but I do like a good tan.

LOL. And Pickles?

As a Baptist in the South, I can assure you that those are blanket generalizations on both cultures.

I have never been to a wedding where a woman promised to support the male without the male making equal vows, and I never met anyone at my small-town Liberal Arts college that attented college only to find a husband.

But y'all can all continue to think that, and I can continue to hold the belief that everyone from Jersey is white trash. Sound good?

So are you saying that the poster who talked about the wedding she went to was lying? Or simply saying that "I've never seen that happen, so it must not."

Because I do know women who went to college to find husbands. It does happen. The world is bigger than your experiences.

I never said it didn't happen...I'm saying the same thing you are, which is that the world is bigger than any of our experiences.

I feel like all day today I have seen people make general blanket statements, such as yours in the religion thread, about how a certain subset of people WILL act based on their upbringing/religion/education/whatever.

All I'm saying is to stop the generalizing.

This was my sister and her husband, we grew up in Atlanta-- the South-- but that had nothing to do with the way my sister and her husband feel. They are Christian, which has a lot to do with their beliefs, though I don't think they are any denomination. Also, my sister dresses with modesty-- long dresses, always covered up, etc. And though my Mom was (RIP) baptist and my Father is Guadalupano Catholic, they didn't raise us to be submissive at all.

Although, in the area of NC that I live in now, there are A LOT of Southern Baptist families. The women always dress modestly and the people here believe a woman's function is to have children, clean the house, and cook. I've probably said it here before, but Dexter was not raised this way (even though he was raised here) and the guys in his unit get onto him for not feeling the way they do. That is, these guys say you don't love your wife, you just marry her to fulfill the duties of your wife. These SAME men go to church every Sunday and disagree with my religious choice, and yet these SAME men will say "you love your mistress, you don't love your wife"

Well I just knew that when I had a baby I would still work. There was no way I was giving up my career. Not after all of those years of school!
Don't you know as soon as this kid was born and my 12 weeks of maternity leave were up I was trying to figure out how I could stay at home with him.
The thought of leaving your kid with a total stranger is very scary! And I was living in a state where neither my husband or I had family.
Fast forward a few months and the husband suddenly decides he doesnt want to be married anymore. Boy was I glad I didnt quit my job. In the end I am actually really lucky. I have the best of both worlds. I work from home most days and a few days a month I have to travel to perform audits. During those days my mom and SIL watch my little one.
If I had my choice - well I would still be married but thats another debate. But I would much rather stay home. However I know he is taken care of and when I come home after being on the road for a few days his reaction makes it all worth it.

But didn't you know? The Bible says the wife must always submit to her husband!

Why am I an atheist again?

Well you can start faking that you're christian and get some poor woman believer to submit to your every desire!!! :laugh:

You two just want religion in each debate topic; don't you??!!!

As a Baptist in the South, I can assure you that those are blanket generalizations on both cultures.

I have never been to a wedding where a woman promised to support the male without the male making equal vows, and I never met anyone at my small-town Liberal Arts college that attented college only to find a husband.

But y'all can all continue to think that, and I can continue to hold the belief that everyone from Jersey is white trash. Sound good?

So are you saying that the poster who talked about the wedding she went to was lying? Or simply saying that "I've never seen that happen, so it must not."

Because I do know women who went to college to find husbands. It does happen. The world is bigger than your experiences.

That's horrible. Going to college to find a husband? That just screams desperate.

As a Baptist in the South, I can assure you that those are blanket generalizations on both cultures.

I have never been to a wedding where a woman promised to support the male without the male making equal vows, and I never met anyone at my small-town Liberal Arts college that attented college only to find a husband.

But y'all can all continue to think that, and I can continue to hold the belief that everyone from Jersey is white trash. Sound good?

So are you saying that the poster who talked about the wedding she went to was lying? Or simply saying that "I've never seen that happen, so it must not."

Because I do know women who went to college to find husbands. It does happen. The world is bigger than your experiences.

That's horrible. Going to college to find a husband? That just screams desperate.

I don't see that as all that different from going to a bar to find a date (which ultimately women would want to get married). Except it's more expensive.

I understood it as going specifically to college for the sole purpose of finding a husband. As in not even bothering to graduate, just hanging around to see who they can find to marry, although that sounds like an extreme case and probably highly unlikely to happen.

As a Baptist in the South, I can assure you that those are blanket generalizations on both cultures.

I have never been to a wedding where a woman promised to support the male without the male making equal vows, and I never met anyone at my small-town Liberal Arts college that attented college only to find a husband.

But y'all can all continue to think that, and I can continue to hold the belief that everyone from Jersey is white trash. Sound good?

So are you saying that the poster who talked about the wedding she went to was lying? Or simply saying that "I've never seen that happen, so it must not."

Because I do know women who went to college to find husbands. It does happen. The world is bigger than your experiences.

That's horrible. Going to college to find a husband? That just screams desperate.

I don't see that as all that different from going to a bar to find a date (which ultimately women would want to get married). Except it's more expensive.

I understood it as going specifically to college for the sole purpose of finding a husband. As in not even bothering to graduate, just hanging around to see who they can find to marry, although that sounds like an extreme case and probably highly unlikely to happen.

Well you gotta figure, it's a smarter plan that finding someone at the bar! At least going to college to find dudes means that they're more likely to graduate and end up with a better paying job which = more $$$$$$

That's horrible. Going to college to find a husband? That just screams desperate.

You've never heard of the M-R-S degree? Cute girls major in fashion merchandising, become a Tri Del and find a future doctor. I think there's a book on it. (totally joking.....not trying to offend any cute girls, fashion merchandise majors or Tri Dels).

I was thinking the same thing... the M.R.S. degree!! haha

Haven't read through all the replies in detail... but for me personally, I am planning on being a stay-at-home mom once I have kids, at least until they are all in school. I'm hoping to have 2-4 kids altogether. I just know that I would have a very hard time being away from them when they are so young... plus the expense of childcare is so high, I'm sure a lot of my paycheck would go towards that, so why not just stay home? My husband supports me on this as well... I'm looking forward to it. :bigsmile:

I think people should come work my schedule and then we can talk about which is harder. Stay at home all day with the kids, doing all the normal SAHM stuff, then go work 40-50+ a week nights until 2 AM at a full-time job.

Hubby and I work opposite schedules (he's a professional musician and works weekends). I am away from home about 12 hours per day (I have an hour commute each way) and I work in daycare (it's nap time right now). Yes, I am blessed that I get to bring my kids if I need to, but I would caution parents to figure out a way to do exactly what you and your husband do, work opposite schedules. We have some kids who arrive at 6:30 am and aren't picked up until 5:15 pm EVERY DAY and then they are brought to some activity afterward. For some of the kids I know them better than their own parents (heck, some parents ask me what they think would be a good gift for their child). It really is quite sad. I notice that the part-time kids (who come only two to three days per week) are better behaved and have better temperments than the full-time kids.

How sad about the kids that are there for like 12 hours a day.

That's exactly why my husband and I do what we do. Sure, part of it is the money, but I quite frankly don't want a day care raising my kids, especially with the number of cases on the rise where the kids aren't properly supervised, etc.

Is it hard to work opposite shifts? You betcha. But it's worth it, and I'm lucky to have a job where it's possible.

My hubby is a musician too! He'd LOVE to do it for a living though. What does your husband play?

How sad about the kids that are there for like 12 hours a day.

That's exactly why my husband and I do what we do. Sure, part of it is the money, but I quite frankly don't want a day care raising my kids, especially with the number of cases on the rise where the kids aren't properly supervised, etc.

Is it hard to work opposite shifts? You betcha. But it's worth it, and I'm lucky to have a job where it's possible.

My hubby is a musician too! He'd LOVE to do it for a living though. What does your husband play?

My husband is a Paul McCartney impersonator. What does your husband play? What type of music? And I agree that working opposite shifts definitely makes room for the challenge of scheduling dates together.

My husband plays guitar, mostly hard rock/metal like Metallica, Megadeth, etc. He's been playing for 20 years and is quite good if i say so myself (and I went into the relationship not being familiar with any of that genre of music lol). He's lucky to still be playing since he nearly sliced off his thumb a few years ago.

That's horrible. Going to college to find a husband? That just screams desperate.

You've never heard of the M-R-S degree? Cute girls major in fashion merchandising, become a Tri Del and find a future doctor. I think there's a book on it. (totally joking.....not trying to offend any cute girls, fashion merchandise majors or Tri Dels).

Patti beat me to it. Women going for their M.R.S. I even think I dated one in college. Not saying that's the ENTIRE reason she went. But she was never interested in classes or even a major or a career path. She always just wanted to get married and have kids.

So why go to college? M.R.S.

How sad about the kids that are there for like 12 hours a day.

That's exactly why my husband and I do what we do. Sure, part of it is the money, but I quite frankly don't want a day care raising my kids, especially with the number of cases on the rise where the kids aren't properly supervised, etc.

Is it hard to work opposite shifts? You betcha. But it's worth it, and I'm lucky to have a job where it's possible.

My hubby is a musician too! He'd LOVE to do it for a living though. What does your husband play?

My husband is a Paul McCartney impersonator. What does your husband play? What type of music? And I agree that working opposite shifts definitely makes room for the challenge of scheduling dates together.

My husband plays guitar, mostly hard rock/metal like Metallica, Megadeth, etc. He's been playing for 20 years and is quite good if i say so myself (and I went into the relationship not being familiar with any of that genre of music lol). He's lucky to still be playing since he nearly sliced off his thumb a few years ago.

There was (I don't know if they are still around) a Metallica/Beatles tribute group out of Milwaukee, WI. It would have been quite interesting to see them for sure.

Like the same band performing tributes to both? That is pretty rad. I don't know if hubby would do the cover band thing. He writes/records his own stuff too, and enjoys playing originals. He has recorded covers though...let me find his youtube channel...ah here it is. http://www.youtube.com/user/LordDustyballz (yes, i think the name is stupid).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPW44CMvHoU&feature=channel_video_title (when he played international Beatles week in Liverpool)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4H6SvQbjos (one of my favorites that hubby sings).

Is your husband the singer too? His guitar playing is pretty sweet.