Stage 2

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  • Jenlwb
    Jenlwb Posts: 682 Member
    Wow stage 2 really kicks it up a notch! Just did my first A.

    Those front squat push press things are a nightmare of shoulder/arm flexibility / coordination for me, I started with 16kg, but had such wrist pain i went down to 14kg. But i just realised now, in stage 1 i was doing shoulder presses with 2 x 7kg db at the end, so i should be comparing to that, not the back squat weight!

    The horizontal wood chop was funny, i have no cables, so started with the dumbell lying on my bench, but as i took it down to the side i nearly fell off! Moved to floor.... For some reason i felt quite nauseous for a while after that.

    I realllly enjoyed it tho, might have to practise the front squats with a broomstick for form first!!
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    I'm starting Stage 2 A on Monday.... good idea to practice with a broom! They have some of those weighted sticks at my gym (you know... the brightly coloured barbie ones?) which I might use to practice with... :)
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    My workout this morning just all seemed like hard work. My heart just wasn't in it at all!

    Firstly I realised I'd forgotten to do 3A on Monday, how the heck did I forget that!! So this morning I did it. Struggled with my second set of front squat push press and only managed 8 on the second set I'm doing 18 kg on my barbell so not hugely heavy. The push-ups were pathetic mainly due to my shoulder playing up (got a treatment on it booked at college tomorrow night). Still can't balance that well on the one leg dumb bell row (or whatever its called). Plus side I love my wood chops :happy: do them on my swiss ball and love the tight feeling in my obliques.

    Jen I also feel nauseous sometimes, its a sign of pushing yourself, so all good.
  • Jenlwb
    Jenlwb Posts: 682 Member
    Hope your shoulder's better Gill!

    I have to say my first workout A of this stage is the first thing in ages that's directly hit my lower abs. This is good, cos that's where i need the work. Not sure how, the wood chops were mainly obliques. Must have been those planks!

    Will attempt B tomorrow after work if my shoulders loosen up a bit! I'm away for a week after my 2nd workout A, gonna miss this!
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    I know this has been covered before but I am just not liking the front squat push press. It doesn't feel like enough weight for the squat and truthfully for the overhead press either, my limiting factor is my wrist strength/ flexibility so this feels like a really ineffective exercise. I tried the rockstars, it was better but still not really happy with it. I'm thinking for my next A workout I may do heavy squats and then do separate overhead presses- in a set like the B and C exercises.
  • kcfaber
    kcfaber Posts: 123 Member
    jamk- I had to break them down like that to feel like it was helping me. couldn't handle the wrist issue. felt like I did much better on both breaking it into components.
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    jamk- I had to break them down like that to feel like it was helping me. couldn't handle the wrist issue. felt like I did much better on both breaking it into components.

    Thanks, I thought there were some others that had done that too but I didn't want to wade back through the whole thread to look! I read on the jpfitness boards that you should work on the wrist flexibility but you only do a few workouts before you're on to the next phase, it just seems more effective to break it up instead. Besides, I miss the heavy back squat.
  • Jenlwb
    Jenlwb Posts: 682 Member
    Maybe i'll do this too then, i'd like to work on my back squat, I wasn't getting as low as i should have in stage one, just below parallel. I'd like to see if i can get down ATG with the same weight. And my shoulder presses do need work! I can't see the front squat/pp helping my wrist flexibility, it just seems to overly strain them because i can't bend the way i need to, and the weight is not being held where it should.
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    jamk- I had to break them down like that to feel like it was helping me. couldn't handle the wrist issue. felt like I did much better on both breaking it into components.

    Are you alternating these two exercises (the squat and presses) as you would with the other ones in the workout - or doing 3 sets each seperately?
  • kcfaber
    kcfaber Posts: 123 Member
    I alternated them. I just didn't feel like anything good was going to come of the wrist position. It seemed like such a strain. Truth be told I am not very flexible so maybe won't be an issue for everyone. I know Beeps had posted a rockstar alternative so I'm sure that's great too. In any case I am glad to be done with them. I miss backsquats too. They really don't come back again until the very end I think.
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    I tried the rockstars for A2. I liked them much better than the FSPP, it was a much less awkward exercise. And if you are trying to stick as close to the program as possible, it's probably the better alternative and as it's still one exercise, it will take less time than separately doing squats and overhead presses. But I think I'd rather have the choice of the heavier squat even if it lengthens my workout by a few minutes.
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    I agree with everything everyones said about the FSPP. I have found my wrists have strengthened now on week 3, and I do need to develop strength in my wrists to benefit my job (Sports massage therapist) so I'll stick with them. Do miss the heavy squats though.
  • sbrBirdy
    sbrBirdy Posts: 224 Member
    Did my second Stage 2 Workout A today. One of those terrible I really-don't-want-to-be-doing-this days. I made it through... but more like 5 minutes between sets instead of 75 seconds! Ugh. (I work out at home, so there are lots of excuses to be distracted.)

    Personally, I don't mind backing down on the squat, because I feel like my legs get enough workout between the step ups and lunges.
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    Did my second Stage 2 Workout A today. One of those terrible I really-don't-want-to-be-doing-this days. I made it through... but more like 5 minutes between sets instead of 75 seconds! Ugh. (I work out at home, so there are lots of excuses to be distracted.)

    I have a timer app on my phone, I set it for my rest period otherwise I'll just sit there and zone out, no distractions needed. :laugh:
    Personally, I don't mind backing down on the squat, because I feel like my legs get enough workout between the step ups and lunges.

    I've thought of this too, I'm going to do it anyway. I may not walk the next day, but I'm going to do it!
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    Did my second Stage 2 Workout A today. One of those terrible I really-don't-want-to-be-doing-this days. I made it through... but more like 5 minutes between sets instead of 75 seconds! Ugh. (I work out at home, so there are lots of excuses to be distracted.)

    I have a timer app on my phone, I set it for my rest period otherwise I'll just sit there and zone out, no distractions needed. :laugh:
    Personally, I don't mind backing down on the squat, because I feel like my legs get enough workout between the step ups and lunges.
    During my 75 secs I'm still flicking through the book trying to remember the next exercise. With Stage one I found them easy but the names of the exercises confuse me on this stage ie dumbbell prone cuban snatch WTF!!!!!

    I've thought of this too, I'm going to do it anyway. I may not walk the next day, but I'm going to do it!
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    Hope your shoulder's better Gill!

    Its really sore today Jen, so moved my workout to tomorrow. May have to look at some alternate exercises if it doesn't improve, hows yours?
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    ^^^^^^^ Sorry girls still trying to get to grips with the quoteing.
  • Jenlwb
    Jenlwb Posts: 682 Member
    Phew, my 1st B workout under my belt. Well, except the HIIT, I'll save that for tomorrow. Takes a while, even though i didn't leave the full rest periods between the ab sections!

    I followed the plan except I did the jacknives instead of the SB crunches, i find the jacknives do more for me.

    For the underhand pulldowns I tried out my pull up bar, kind of trailed my feet on the floor partially supporting me for chin ups. Can't see myself doing a full chin up anytime soon, it'll be quite a while!

    HIIT tomorrow then 8 days away before the last 6 workouts.

    Hope you're all having a good wekend! :drinker:
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    Did 3B workout today without the HIIT, doing mine tomorrow too. A lot better day today, head was willing as well as the body lol. I'm going to look at those jackknifes too, I'm holding a 12 kg dumbell over my head but its now causing pain in my triceps. Also adapted the cuban snatch and left out the second bit of movement also causes pain in my bad shoulder :grumble: Just done a self massage and ultrasound on said injury so hopefully by Monday a big improvement in it.

    HIIT tomorrow, love my HIIT:happy: :happy:
  • alf1163
    alf1163 Posts: 3,143 Member
    Hello everyone!!!! Finishing stage 2 today or tomorrow!!! I prefer to workout in the morning and didnt feel like it this morning. Can't wait to start stage 3 but it looks soooo long!!! LOL
  • alf1163
    alf1163 Posts: 3,143 Member
    Did my second Stage 2 Workout A today. One of those terrible I really-don't-want-to-be-doing-this days. I made it through... but more like 5 minutes between sets instead of 75 seconds! Ugh. (I work out at home, so there are lots of excuses to be distracted.)

    Personally, I don't mind backing down on the squat, because I feel like my legs get enough workout between the step ups and lunges.

    Thank you for your message and friend request!!! :flowerforyou:
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    During my 75 secs I'm still flicking through the book trying to remember the next exercise. With Stage one I found them easy but the names of the exercises confuse me on this stage ie dumbbell prone cuban snatch WTF!!!!!

    Did you download the workout logs from the NROL website? They have log sheets with the exercises already filled out so all you have to do is print it (I printed them out 4 per page so I could take them to the gym as my "cheat sheet."

    I just finished my first Stage 2 workout A... HOLY CRAP it kicked my butt... I collapsed and almost cried after my second plank... ugh.
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    During my 75 secs I'm still flicking through the book trying to remember the next exercise. With Stage one I found them easy but the names of the exercises confuse me on this stage ie dumbbell prone cuban snatch WTF!!!!!

    Did you download the workout logs from the NROL website? They have log sheets with the exercises already filled out so all you have to do is print it (I printed them out 4 per page so I could take them to the gym as my "cheat sheet."

    Yup do that too!!! :laugh: :laugh: I'm putting it down to age:grumble:
  • gillleeman
    gillleeman Posts: 397 Member
    Did last workout A today, and finish Stage 2 B on Wednesday. I've decided not to take a break and go straight into Stage 3 as Stage 2 hasn't been that long. May regret it we'll see.
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,162 Member
    I wish I had done that, too, gill....I lost A LOT of progress with my (extended) vacation break in between Stage 2 and Stage 3.

    I will NOT be taking any break between Stage 3 and Stage 4, that's for sure....
  • GeorginaMcKee
    GeorginaMcKee Posts: 35 Member
    I just started S2 today and loved it. It was nice to mix things up after getting so used to the routine of S1. I'm looking forward to the "B" workout on Wed!!! What have people been doing about the interval section, do you really do it after the lifting or save it for later?
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    Yup do that too!!! I'm putting it down to age

    LOL! Too funny!!
    I just started S2 today and loved it. It was nice to mix things up after getting so used to the routine of S1. I'm looking forward to the "B" workout on Wed!!! What have people been doing about the interval section, do you really do it after the lifting or save it for later?

    I started Monday too - really enjoyed the change... although - found the first workout in Stage 2 already WAY harder than Stage 1!!! Looking forward to B now!!!!

    I've been doing Intervals already through Stage 1 as my "warm up" ... I'm going to keep doing it before because I was seriously D.O.N.E. after the weight section of S2WA yesterday! WOW.
  • jamk1446
    jamk1446 Posts: 5,577 Member
    I'm pretty pooped afterwards to do the HIIT too but I hate cardio so it would be too easy to talk myself out of it the day after. Better to just get it done.
  • DarkAngellEyes
    DarkAngellEyes Posts: 317 Member
    I just started S2 today and loved it. It was nice to mix things up after getting so used to the routine of S1. I'm looking forward to the "B" workout on Wed!!! What have people been doing about the interval section, do you really do it after the lifting or save it for later?

    I have been trying to fit it in after lifting - mainly because I am not entirely sure I would be disciplined enough to do it the following day! lol It is tough though after all the lifting.
  • ecrogers4
    ecrogers4 Posts: 90 Member
    Just finished my first S2 WB... HOLY CRAP. Those Bulgarian Split Squats... OMG. My first set turned out more like lunges (too wide a stance) but my second set were proper form - wow... there IS a difference...

    Wow wow wow. Stage 2 kicks Stage 1 BUTT!!!
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