With D3 being all tt people can talk abt these days... I'm pretty much the only person who ever logs on my guild anymore. And even so, not much :laugh:

id say the opposite

especially WoW, my entire guild (easy_mode) were casuals

we'd just hang out doing some heroics, or group up for dailys, run old instances naked invent our own stupid races accross XYZ etc..

we left "progression" for the people that could put thier gaming on a schedule

I tried doing this back when I played WoW. The problem was that in the end MMOs simply don't create a gaming experience that's really viable for "casual" gamers. If you're not pushing for progression there's really no place for you in those games.

How long ago was it that u played, and how would u define "casual"?

I feel Blizzard has made WoW into a relatively casual-friendly game. With Cataclysm, players now have the flexibility to not raid 25s or even choose not to raid with a schedule anymore with the LFR mode. My guild raids once per week (2 if u count the occasional alt raid). Some of us only logon during raid days. While our progression isn't fancy, I'd say we're doing pretty well with 2 rogues in the guild getting their legendary daggers + ending up with 4/8 HM DS10 b4 we all went over to D3

I quit in 2007 shortly before the WotLK expansion came out. I recently quit EVE Online for the same reason and I've already grown tired of D3 now that I've hit 60 all for the same reasons:

I _hate_ farming. All of these games eventually reach a point where the only thing driving further progression is the in-game desire to acquire more or better "stuff." The problem is I don't care about "stuff" and I have no patience for repeating the same content more than once in a game. I played exclusively for PvP and once I saw the inside of a dungeon or a raid I never wanted to see it again. The games were never challenging for me because the NPCs didn't have any real A.I. They don't learn from you or adapt to you so beating them is all a matter of memorizing patterns which to me is BOOOOORING. We kept the game mildly entertaining during raids by insisting that our guild's MT (who was a heavy drinker) get absolutely trashed before each raid. We needed the element of unpredictability that came with having a drunk tank to keep things from getting monotonous.

What keeps games entertaining for me is the challenge, and computer-controlled opponents who, in order to defeat, you need only to acquire better gear and memorize their basic patterns, present no challenge. I need to be playing against an opponent who requires legitimate outside-the-box thinking to beat, to keep me on my toes. Being told that no matter how skilled I am it will never be able to compensate for lack of gear is disheartening to me and makes the game seem like utter trash. That's just me though.

Skill should trump all other variables. Always. If that isn't the case, then the game seems pointless to me.

Also, I define "Casual" as being able to come and go as you please without committing to any specific timeframe when you log in as well as putting gaming AFTER a lot of other things on your priority list.

I would be down.

1: Horde or Alliance?
2: PVP server or PVE server?

1. doesn't matter
2. PvE. My main is a PvP realm (Barthilas). It'll b nice to do dailies in peace for a change :laugh:

Just giving this a bump to see if anyone else was interested and/or had preference for side or server type?

I'd Be down
Either Alliance or Horde is Fine. PVP or PVE are both Fine by me too


BTW: The Hobbit Idea is Hilarious! Never heard of that!

I'm in as a casual player - won't be able to play much for a few days, but I'll add you today!

I am definitely down to do this. I just built a new rig and got WoW freshly installed.

I am definitely down to do this. I just built a new rig and got WoW freshly installed.

I made a dwarf warlock on said server, "fictional"

this is awesome.. i'm making a character right now.. as always, it will be a paladin

Before you know it three hours had passed...hehe

IKR! :laugh: