Help me curb the jealousy!
MrsKosal
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Remember me talking about my friend who is doing that juice diet? Well....it's working for her and it's driving me nuts that my progress is MUCH MUCH slower! Our kids go to the same daycare and while we were both there dropping off our kids, the daycare owner asked her if she'd lost weight and how? UGH!!! Why am I getting jealous? I'm glad I get to eat food, but just wish I didn't have to sit here and watch her lose all the weight and look at me like I am crazy! I know my health benefits far out weigh the speedy weight loss, but I just need a moment to be whiny I guess.
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Okay, but the minute she tries to go back to a normal food diet or she goes on vacation or relatives come to visit or there's some kind of crisis, that weight's gonna come back faster than you can say "crash diet." You can make your weight loss stick and still enjoy food. She may not be able to.0
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I'm so sorry, that's so frustrating. Beyond frustrating! It's no consolation right now, but when you are dropping off your kids this time next year, or maybe even the year after, you are still going to be strong, toned, and beautiful, while she'll have gained that juice loss back as fat. And she'll be asking you YOUR secret!0
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Okay, but the minute she tries to go back to a normal food diet or she goes on vacation or relatives come to visit or there's some kind of crisis, that weight's gonna come back faster than you can say "crash diet." You can make your weight loss stick and still enjoy food. She may not be able to.
THIS and...um.....hello? she's only drinking juice for crying out loud! i bet SHES jealous of YOU b/c you are looking better as well AND CHEWING DELICIOUS THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
Juice diet??? what celebrity gossip magazine did that one come from... Stick with it, cause she won't keep that weight off.0
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Okay, but the minute she tries to go back to a normal food diet or she goes on vacation or relatives come to visit or there's some kind of crisis, that weight's gonna come back faster than you can say "crash diet." You can make your weight loss stick and still enjoy food. She may not be able to.
Yep.
What she said.
You cant live on juice forever...0 -
And this is why I love you guys! You just put a huge
on my face! You are right! And yes.....she only drinks juice. She takes raw fruits and veggies and juices them with a juicer and that is all she consumes. It's ridiculous. I even showed her how little calories her daily juice is and it didn't phase her. And she's definitely getting flabby because of it since she doesn't work out. So its just skinny fat I guess? Who knows. 0 -
I would much rather be strong and healthy (and lose weight more slowly) than skinny and tired/cranky/lose hair/gain all the weight back etc.0
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i know how you are feeling, everyone around me is either doing low carb, not eating enough or something else.. this is a lifestyle change not a crash diet. My goals are different from everyone else, i want to be STRONG and HEALTHY not skinny and weak!!
Just keep thinking about how a year from now when you drop your kids off, you'll be in better place than her. What's she gonna do when the holidays come? you cant really juice Chrstmas Dinner! :laugh:
You're doing the right thing, keep it up girl!! 0 -
I would much rather be strong and healthy (and lose weight more slowly) than skinny and tired/cranky/lose hair/gain all the weight back etc.
THIS!
I also want to lose 25 pounds ONCE, not over and over and over again. Just try not to gloat when you see her in 6 months and she is back in her big pants and you are rockin' Daisy Dukes.0 -
Okay, but the minute she tries to go back to a normal food diet or she goes on vacation or relatives come to visit or there's some kind of crisis, that weight's gonna come back faster than you can say "crash diet." You can make your weight loss stick and still enjoy food. She may not be able to.
^^^ best EM2LM affirmation yet!!!
I struggle with jealousy, too, especially since I screwed up my reset thinking I was at a higher activity level than I actually am (thank you Polar for setting me straight lol) I was eating up to 700 kcal over my appropriate TDEE and so yeah, undid a ton of my hard work...sigh. At least my body should be very clear that we're no longer starving, lmao. But yeah, hard when I used to be losing more weight than anyone else I knew and looking ripped and now here I am basically behind everyone else I know. :P0 -
Obviously eating more fruits and veggies is great, but eating ONLY fruits and veggies, well I'm pretty skeptical. If you're interested in juicing, I would recommend watching Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead (it's an instant flick on Netflix).
They recommend doing a juice detox for a period of time (aka not a lifestyle choice) and personally I think it makes the most sense if you've been eating only junk for years and never eaten a vegetable. For folks who have been gulping down fried food after fried food, a juice break might be a good idea (your body really wants that fiber and those nutrients). But you can't have juice forever, and ultimately if you want to build muscle and not just lose weight (fat and muscle) then you're going to have to eat some yummy protein and fat from time to time.
For the average person I think a strictly juice diet is not the greatest. If you're obese, taking a bunch of medications, it might not be a horrible idea for some period of time, just to jumpstart your journey. But obviously juice is not a long term solution. Even the juice folks know that.
Anyway, I know this all seems about weight loss. But really this is about your LIFE. It's about living longer, stronger, better. For some that might mean only comsuming juice for some small period of your life. But aren't you GLAD that it doesn't for you! I know I am Those green drinks are not my cup of tea. 0 -
When the jealously hits remember the joy there is in eating real food with your family and setting a great HEALTHY example for your kids !
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When the jealously hits remember the joy there is in eating real food with your family and setting a great HEALTHY example for your kids !
THIS!!!! I have issues and had an eating disorder when I was younger due to how I was brought up around food and my parents obsession with crash dieting and being the "right" size. I'm proud when my kids say "Mom you eat so healthy!". You are setting a great example for them by fueling your body properly!0 -
When the jealously hits remember the joy there is in eating real food with your family and setting a great HEALTHY example for your kids !
That hit the nail on the head! I don't even like this friend talking about it in front of my oldest daughter who is 8. It just shows poor body image and a bad example.0 -
Okay, but the minute she tries to go back to a normal food diet or she goes on vacation or relatives come to visit or there's some kind of crisis, that weight's gonna come back faster than you can say "crash diet." You can make your weight loss stick and still enjoy food. She may not be able to.
THIS and...um.....hello? she's only drinking juice for crying out loud! i bet SHES jealous of YOU b/c you are looking better as well AND CHEWING DELICIOUS THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yup...absolutely this!!!!0 -
I did the Dukan diet and lost 8lbs FAST. As soon as I stopped, I put on 12lbs!!! FAD DIETS ARE NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!
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I agree completely with everyone else. I know how hard it is as the secretaries in our bldg are losing weight hand over fist and showing me all their new outfits they buy during lunch break (instead of eating lunch!). They're dropping sizes right before my eyes and it's TOUGH to see them look at me (in week 5 of reset) when I feel as though I've gotten thicker everywhere! I'm there with you in feeling jealous, but more importantly, I'm there with you in this wonderful metabolism resetting that will pay off forever!!!
YEAH US! We all rock! And soon, all our strength training will be evident as the fat begins to simply melt away once we go to cut. Yippee! Come on July 25th (my 8 wk mark)!:happy:0 -
I totally agree with what everyone else has said. I have a friend who's lost 16 pounds using that Body by Vi stuff but I know the minute she goes back to eating normally, she'll probably gain it all back and then some. Plus, I can't help but look at her pics and think she just looks like a skinny fat version of her old self. She may be smaller but she's still flabby. I hate to say that but it's true.
Sure, we're all taking the slow route to losing weight but we'll be leaner, firmer and all muscle....and we'll never have to worry about gaining the weight back!
Just stick to the plan, my friend!! Eyes always on the prize!0 -
I am in 5th week of reset and told my husband this morning that I couldn't wait to go to cut because I KNOW that I'm growing muscle under the fat....I'm stronger with some awesome strength NSV's to prove it. To be able to to melt fat off and show muscle that already exists because I ate enough to build it up in the first place is going to be AWESOME!0
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I lost a lot of weight quickly on a low calorie diet, then put most of it back on again, then proceeded to repeat the process 3 more times before em2wl.
I have friends doing the same thing still, I have tried telling them but in the end they will have to see it for themselves when in maybe a years time I'm at goal, looking great and ate my way to it : )0 -
I am in 5th week of reset and told my husband this morning that I couldn't wait to go to cut because I KNOW that I'm growing muscle under the fat....I'm stronger with some awesome strength NSV's to prove it. To be able to to melt fat off and show muscle that already exists because I ate enough to build it up in the first place is going to be AWESOME!
i am so excited for you!0 -
How long can anyone really last on juice alone before the hunger takes over? I give your friend a month, at most, before she's head first in the cookies or buying a double cheesburger at the drive thru. You'll still be plugging along looking more fab by the moment. Slow and steady wins the race.0
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One of MFP friends who is a huge inspiration to me put this on her status update and it really stuck with me:
"The only person you are in competition with is the you from yesterday."
Enjoy your food and your healthy routine while she sits around miserable from not eating or working out.0 -
One of my co-workers started a week long juice cleanse the same week I started EM2WL and I remember him talking about some of the juice combinations and how there were a few that tasted like vomit...but he drank them anyway!!! Definitely nothing to be jealous of!!! Not to mention, as he admitted himself, there was no way he could do any working out (not enough energy) and the first day he almost passed out in the grocery store buying all his fruits and veggies for his juice! He gave me some funny looks when I was talking about trying EM2WL and I returned the favor when he was talking about juicing...LOL!0
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What they said!0
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Just think of it as being a great example/role model to your friend. While I take no joy from my friends struggles and when they gain the weight back, I think of it as hey, I am here waiting for you for when this phase of juicing backfires. Sure, EM2WL can be so hard. But I think its harder to see weight drop quickly, only to come back on and I feel like a complete failure for not being able to have enough "self-control" to keep it off.
I can't imagine she feels great. I would think she would feel tired and light-headed along with other things. She loves the weight loss but I bet there is more going on she doesn't like and won't be able to keep up with eating this way.
You are not just doing EM2WL for you. You are doing this to show everyone that you can still eat and feel great, enjoy life while losing fat and then maintaining.
As a side note: I don't really talk about how awful I feel out loud or about losing fat or anything. I am very aware of the fact I have 3 daughters and my priority is health so they know I like to eat healthy and workout to gain muscle and have a strong heart. We definitely talk about things, but I never refer to myself in a negative manner. It broke my heart yesterday when my oldest, who will be 9 in Sept, told me at lunch she is going to try to eat less so she doesn't get fat. Obviously I talked to her about it and she's very tall and thin anyway. She spent the weekend with my In-Laws and DH's Aunts and such who talk non-stop about how fat they are and so on. Drives me absolutely nuts when people talk without thinking around kids. They are definitely listening. My Grandma always says, "They didn't learn it from no stranger!"0 -
Fructose really should be consumed in moderation, I don't think that sounds healthy at all. I wonder what your macros would look like on an all fruit/veggie juice diet? Sugar would be through the roof! Little to no fiber. Barely any protein. Way too much of most vitamins. Probably no vitamin d or calcium. That is just off the top of my head.
I went through a phase while I was resetting (currently in my 8th week) where I was mad at myself for doing it all wrong before. How could I have been so stupid to starve myself and cardio away all my muscle??? I have now come to terms with what I did in the past and where I am going in the future, but every time I read something like this, I cringe and wonder how sorry they will be in the future that they have ruined their metabolism, or worse. I do feel a little better knowing that I never did anything like this. Luckily, I don't care for juice or a lot of sweet/fruity things, otherwise I might have tried it, lol.
I love the quote Ladylace copied here "The only person you are in competition with is the you from yesterday."0 -
One of MFP friends who is a huge inspiration to me put this on her status update and it really stuck with me:
"The only person you are in competition with is the you from yesterday."
Enjoy your food and your healthy routine while she sits around miserable from not eating or working out.
Now that is a great quote!0 -
Hers is a temporary fix, your will be permanent I have a friend doing this 800 - 1,000 calorie a day crazy diet and she has dropped like 40 pounds super fast. I don't envy or nor am I jealous because I know she is going to be right back where she started once she returns to eating normally again. I am actually sad for her, but it is an argument I just won't have anymore. 0
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We all want quick fix. It just cannot happen for us, but when you think about it, this eating thing is so much nicer. Sit down and make a list of all the pros and cons. Bet the pros list is much longer!0
