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It depends. There are plenty of IT people that think they are technical but they are not.

Well, you can discount the links because you think they are biased. I'll go cut some articles for you so you don't have to look at the keto site before you get the science stuff. But the NIH is a pretty respectable outfit. And the title of the article is Long-term effects of a ketogenic diet in obese patients Thank you.…

Weekly. On Monday. It helps me stay in the groove on weekends. I plan on switching to monthly. Because my eating is stable now and it's more about the long term outcome for me.

Sorry if I offended the cow fart people. If you want to talk about it, I was only joking. But I feel like the real issue is chicken farting. Do you know how many chickens there are in the world?

Yes. I should work on that. I am a technical person. We tend to say what we want in as few words as possible. My Ph.D. co-worker will use 1000 words when he could have just said yes. I'll go to his office and ask if that was a yes. He'll sigh and nod. :) Also, I was a vegetarian for over a year. One thick bacon…

Thank you. I so agree. It's really hard to get someone's intention from words alone. I have a lady at work that writes the meanest emails. After over a year of them, I finally met her. She was the sweetest person I ever met. I am a very nice person, but I know I write bluntly which is misinterpreted frequently. I'm not…

You can't use CNN. It's fake news. I already said that calorie counting works. I still contend that keto is way better from personal experience. Still, if you did the sugar & broccoli experiment you would weight much less and wouldn't be diabetic if you ate veggies and fat instead of sugar. That is an extreme example to…

Oh well. Maybe I know all about plant-based diets. But, even so, I'd read your link if this was a discussion about Plant-Based diets = Good or Bad.

I hate this. People keep posting it. There is more to weight loss than calories. People who believe this say things like oh your not eating enough calories. Do you need to exercise more? Are you getting enough fiber? If you think this is true, eat 1000 calories of sugar a day for a month. Then a 1000 calories of broccoli…

I'm not going to click on the first link because I don't trust a site with an address of ketovale to not be biased. This too is a bad excuse. Try to read the whole of something. Don't just pick out one little thing to dispute as most people do. It lessens the discussion. If you clicked the link and read for a few days,…

Also please don't misunderstand me. I support any method anyone wants to use. And if it works for you great. In 1989, after my hip went bad, I had a book of calories. It had a mathematical formula that showed you how to calculate how many calories you ate to support your current weight and how many you had to cut to lose a…

Here is a long list of keto studies. Lemon disputed the validity because it was from a keto site. Note that the site it's on has nothing to do with the places that published the studies. https://ketovale.com/low-carb-keto-diet-studies-list/ Also, the NIH thinks keto is cool too.…

That wasn't for you. That was for lemon. Let me look back for you.

Yes. But, I know you didn't look at the links I provided that support this or you wouldn't be saying that. I didn't just make it up.

Actually, it has. Go back and find where we discussed this already. Thanks

Yes. But they see that over 30 % of their patients are obese. They know what they recommend is not working for most people. They just say eat less, move more and take this X pill. And are registered dieticians following recommended government nutritional guidance successful? No, they are not. Because of compliance. Have…

Well, you didn't answer my challenge before. And you apparently didn't read any of the links I provided. Are you up for it now?

I'll certainly accept this. Thank you for correcting it.

Bro. We already established the keto is better statistically than all other diets. Read previous posts if you don't concur.

This is a smart person. Thank you. I agree wholeheartedly!

No, it's not. Don't be so sensitive. Some people enjoy having fun and let things they can't control roll off.

It says right in there. My doctor! No, I didn't make her give me a peer-reviewed scientific supporting document. But I trust her because she has a load of degree's and she's old like me and she sees thousands of patients. She has experience.

And one other thing. Many people here say, oh I lost x and kept it off using X. That's great! I am so glad you could do that. Most people cannot do it. Plagued by obesity, my doctor wanted me to take some new medicine. I said no, I'll lose weight. She said most people cannot do it. I asked how many do. She said about 1 out…

I can tell you are a nice person. Nutrition people have to say that though. If people can lose weight and keep it off with low carb and fasting you are out of business. If you read some of the reports on that link you'll find the science doesn't really support your position anymore.

No, but the links are independent. Look at them. If you say all those are biased then we live on different planets. They were not conducted by the website. Some are very old.

That would actually be 5 net carbs. 13-8 = 5. MFP doesn't do net carbs. If you are concerned about it, put your food in, then look at nutrition. You can mentally subtract the fiber from the carbs to get your net carbs. Keto is under 20 carbs a day. Good luck!

And one final, final thing. All you people who believe there is no difference in keto and low calorie you need to up your research game. Just because you have one old article that you rely on doesn't make it so. Enjoy and enlighten yourself with these. https://www.ketovale.com/low-carb-keto-diet-studies-list/

Type 1 is different. https://www.diffen.com/difference/Type_1_Diabetes_vs_Type_2_Diabetes Don't even go there

I'm not going to go search the books. If you have something that is a lie, I'll check it out. There is too much incorrect generalizing here already. That's where people make mistakes.

Being a maverick is great. You all need to up your research games. Simply googling Metabolic changes in fasting there are many hits that confirm what I said about BMR increasing the first few days. So, if you do what I do. Feast and Famine. You trick your body into shedding pounds, eating fewer calories and NOT going into…