Zmanning89 Member

Hey Dubb, Welcome to MFP I'm new here as well to MFP (not to dieting or nutrition) I guess my diet would fall into a Paleo style like diet , but I also include grass fed dairy , I also don't eat high meat / protein, like most Paleo advocate, I eat mostly veggies (Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, kale, tomato , peppers, onions,…

A calorie is a measurement of how much heat is produced when you "burn" or ignite that substance. A calorie is a unit of measurement, from an energy perspective. But not all Sources of the "Calories" are equal in terms of Health is my point I was making. For example Poison Spider Venom is made of Protein, our bodies would…

Not sure if your trolling or being serious. But for example Eat Spider Venom, its made of Protein, (you would die from it) but your body would not use it the same as say , protein from Beef Flesh.. If you search Pub Med you can find many studies on different proteins and the effects they have on the body. (casein protein…

Which Claim exactly ? I'm not really making a "Claim" just explaining that the goal is not to lose "weight" but rather "body fat" , as "Weight" can mean anything, like Muscle , Bone Density etc, heck I can lose weight by cutting of my leg, but most people when they say they want to lose weight they are asserting they want…

One more time, a Calorie as a UNIT of measurement is the same regardless, but 1g of protein from say processed Lunch meat will have a "different" amino acid profile as 1g of Protein from a grass fed steak, it would have a different amino acid profile than "whey" protein" or 1g of Collagen protein for example. So from a…

Problematic advice lol :smile: did you even read what I said to her, please read what I wrote, I did not give the OP problematic advice. Why so Hostile :smile:

Well Said, I suggested the OP to take a more sensable approach and seems like I got my head bitten off ;) I guess that how people welcome new people to MFP :blush: - Cheers

I agree and have not asserted the opposite, you said exactly what I've been saying, whats with the argumentative tone, this post started out toward the OP, but turned into some weird argumentative on nutrition 101 , is this how MFP is all the time :smile:

Fair enough healthy is debatable , and I agree you can lose weight eating Junk, not saying you can't :smile: For me, healthy is slowing down the aging process, avoiding inflammation , and Looking good naked ;) But you must understand that not all proteins are equal, 1 gram of this may have a different amino acid profile…

Your correct, but That not what I ment,, a Calorie as a "measurement" is the same, but not all Calories are equal in terms of quality, for example 1 gram of processed pepperoni protein, has a different amino acid profile , 1g of protein from a natural chicken breast or a Grass Fed steak, they all have different Amino acids…

Also " One won't build muscle in a deficit" is false, you can build lean muscle while burning Fat, in a calorie defect. I'm gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time, and most day I'm in a Deficit, but yet my muscles keep getting bigger ;) but you need resistance training and also adequate protein and fat (support…

I'm not a Noob when it comes to Nutrition, I'm new to this site though, but so far everybody is very hostile and seem to not understand basic nutritional science.

I'm not saying a food "Knows" how to cut something over something else, this is a mechanism the body does based on what type of food and macro nutrients are entering the body. I can get into detail , but the body uses protein differently that carbs( Sugar , starch) at basic chemist biology type level. Edit" also the bottom…

Your welcome ;) but in seriousness if you don't understand basic biology please, no need to refer to sarcasm, I was helping the OP to focus on losing "body Fat %" and not just focus on the number on the scale....

Yep :) your preaching to the choir its silly, that's why I used it as an example to help make a drive home a point to the OP as to not just focus on losing weight but losing body Fat %

Lol same here, and I for one would have a Date with the porcelain throne ;)

You can burn Fat, of course, just that your body in this state would break down more muscle than fat, due to no having enough protein to support protein synthesis. I was making an simple example to not just focus on weight, and focus more in Body Fat % Whats with all the hostility :)

You can burn Fat, of course, just that your body in this state would break down more muscle than fat, due to no having enough protein to support protein synthesis. I was making an simple example to not just focus on weight, and focus more in Body Fat % Whats with all the hostility :)

Because of lack of Protein, not really due to eating junk, just the lack of quality protein.

:neutral: Please read what I wrote, I'm not sure which foods you are talking about ? Please elaborate on what your trying to assert. Your not making any sense. "Twinkes" if I ate only that type of food, and was in a calorie defect , due to not getting enough protein and having not enough calories in my diet, the body would…

Nor did I advocate this either lol :smile: read what I said, I'm saying that losing "weight" is not always a good thing, it depends on what your body is losing (IE Body Fat, or Muscle Tissue, Bone Density etc) I said for Example if I ate Twinkes all day , I could lose "weight" if I was in a calorie deficit, but most of the…

Which Claim exactly ? I'm not really making a "Claim" just explaining that the goal is not to lose "weight" but rather "body fat" , as "Weight" can mean anything, like Muscle , Bone Density etc, heck I can lose weight by cutting of my leg, but most people when they say they want to lose weight they are asserting they want…

First off, congrats :smiley: You have lost weight, and water weight is normally the first 10lb anyone loses since most people carry to much water on them in the first place, (cells are made up of around 70% water even fat cells) The rest that comes off is Fat, but 800 calories is so low and your body over time will start…

HAHA gotta love BRO science... tell this to a Diabetic or better yet a talk to some real Dr. with people who study Biology. Which studies do these slides reference. Haha so funny Reminds me of the China Study crap.