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Alright thank you guys for all the info and help, I'm going to try the bulk/cut method, but that means going to the gym anyways, so my main focus is going to be there. :smiley:

God, why is trying to gain weight while staying lean so goddamn vague :D I'll just ask a fitness instructor tomorrow what I should do, because I just need a solid plan of action

Yeah I think the best way for me (and others in my position) is to add weight as fast as possible (large calories surplus and many unsaturated fats) and then after reaching desired weight: eat less calories that you burn on a day to lose the fat that came with the muscles. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having more fat…

Havent even considered milk yet, will check that out tomorrow in the supermarket. Thank you!

Very true, although I was hoping for gaining while staying relatively lean. I heard a very good argument from my housemate who does a lot of exercising. He said that I could first gain fast and then get that fat by doing a lot of calories surplus, and then when I have reached the desired weight I should train to get rid of…

I do a lot of abs exercises though, every day after the other workout. This burns fat, right? What if I stay at large calorie surplus and burn the fat by doing abs exercises and running in general? Would that work?

I do abs exercise, only run in the beginning when warming up

So there's no way of gaining without adding fat? Seems kind of depressing

I too think you should aim for much higher than what you burn per day if you really want to gain! :)

Hey! I just measured today at my local gym that I'm at 13% body fat, so I'm looking to keep that level going forward and others have pointed me towards carbs, so I think I'm going to bulk on those if they help me get to my calories goal. My local gym thingy also says I'm burning 2100 kcal per day, multiple apps and sites…

Makes sense! I already eat enough protein out of my outmeal and yoghurt meals (4x a day which results in 150+ g protein). Time for that fast food then I guess! :D

I'm just worried that I'm getting too many fats in if I want to reach my calories goal of 4000. In the end I want to add weight in form of muscle, not fat. You think that's an issue or that I should not worry about that and eat stuff like chorizo, ice cream with nutella, crisps?

Why should you be eating less than 4000? Are you trying to lose weight? Thanks for the recommendations btw! I'm gonna try to implement those :)

Isnt ice cream with nutella bad in the sense that it contains a lot of fats and not a lot of macros?

Yeah I should have mentioned in the first post that my body burns that much haha. Thank you for showing me that forum, gonna check that out! Good luck on your fitness endeavours as well :D

I don't really see why going to the gym every day is bad. I'm alternating muscle groups each day, so every muscle group gets enough rest. And whenever I feel my body needs rest I skip a day. This is usually after 6 days or a week. I want to gain as fast as possible because I don't see any reason to do it slowly. Knowing…

I mean, my body burns around 3800 calories each day, so I'm only gaining a set amount of calories each day. It has been measured by my fitness that I have a metabolistic age of a 12 y/o, so my body burns like crazy.

I'm trying to gain, because I think my weight is too low considering my height. I'm focusing on heavy compounds right now (deadlifts, squads, dumbell chest presses). Is that what you meant by lifting program?