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leonidas_and_spartacus wrote: »
You are fat because you ate crap. Eat clean and till you are full. It doesn't matter much how much crap you eat, its still a crap. I can eat 4000 calories on some days and not gain weight. Human body is not a number, give the body when it needs food, don't force eat or emotionally eat when you don't need to. I eat one big meal most of the days and never feel hungry. If I feel hungry, I eat more, I don't hold back because of some random number pulled off the internet.
This is both rude and presumptuous. But thank you for your opinion. I generally do not, and have never "eaten crap" on an every day basis. I am fat because my body tells me it wants more food than it needs. I live in here, I think I'd know. Even before getting serious and restricting carbs to below 20g a day my diet has predominantly been whole foods, meat, vegetables, cheese and whatnot. Takeaway maybe once a month. No soda, or candy, or chips or other rubbish. I am a good cook, I have no need to eat that rubbish. Never have.
To try and respond to all the other suggestions. I don't emotional eat, not anymore. I eat because I'm hungry. I take the required supplements. I drink plenty of water. I eat plenty of fat. I do IF, I don't normally eat until I get home from work at 12:30pm. Just coffee in the morning.
I have experimented a few times by eating what my body tells me I need, until I'm not tummy growling, headache inducing, stay awake at night hungry anymore, and it ends up being about 2500 cals. Consistently. And I gain weight on this much. So I stand by my previous post. Some of you need to understand that we are not all the same.
Reasons I Low Carb. Everyone in my family has diabetes (8 uncles, 2 aunts and my dad). I'm 40 and scared I'm going to get diabetes too, it's ruined my Dad and he's a sick old man at 65. Low Carb does wonders for my joint pain. Low carb does NOT make it any easier for me to lose weight. I want it to. I want to get to the point many of you talk about, where you're losing weight because you don't want to eat as much. My macros are right, I track everything, but it just hasn't happened. Even last year, over 9 months, I never got to that point. I can lose weight, but I need to eat 1750 cals or less a day. And I'm hungry. Every day.
You probably need to get a full hormone panel done and get to bottom of the problem. This doesn't sound normal. Ignoring the body won't make it better, you can struggle to manage the hunger or find a fix for it.0 -
nicsflyingcircus wrote: »octobubbles wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »
You must be new around here.
My thought exactly.
We have birthdays coming up and I'm trying to decide what to do about serving cake. I think to most guests anything I make will be a catastrophe, while simultaneously tempting me back to the carb side. I may just get a small treat cake for them and make some of those macadamia brownie bombs for myself.
See, I've had absolutely zero problem doing standard baking: brownies with frosting, fudge(mostly my 14yo makes this, about once a month), cookies, whatever... and not eating it. For my birthday, we just didn't have cake, because well... -my- birthday and I didn't want it, lol. But for the husband's birthday saturday, there will be cake. I will just not partake. MY family has gotten used to me saying "no thanks".
I love that your family has found a balance in not taking YOUR choices as personal attacks against your love for them, etc. My guy still doesn't "get it," but at least he's finally making an attempt.0 -
I've had bloods done a few times over the last 12 months, nothing shows up. I can't really justify going to the Dr to say "I'm on a diet and I'm hungry". I doubt they would do much. As for even trying to make a Dr understand that I feel I should have less of an appetite due to my keto lifestyle, forget it. My thyroid was okay last time it was checked a couple of years ago.
@shai74 I can tell you personally that the tests most doctors do on your thyroid are utter crap. Even if you are in normal ranges, you might not be in YOUR normal range. Do you have problems sleeping/waking/feeling rested? Are your triglycerides higher than normal range? Do you feel like you have to finish a meal with something slightly sweet so your body knows the meal is over? Do you feel like you will never get a handle on any of this???
If so, I strongly urge you to check out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com Luckily for me, I'd been seeing the same doctor for a decade, so she noticed when my thyroid levels dropped by a decent margin, even though I was still well within the "normal range." Getting back on thyroid meds helped the numbers, but even then I still had to supplement additionally to ease my symptoms.
Everything you just said sounds like how I used to talk about and to myself. I never thought I could be different. I'd given up trying to change things because failure was exhausting. If getting a full comprehensive look at things from an endocrinologist can help, please try this. Even though you say you don't emotionally eat, a portion of feeling hungry all the time, even when you've eaten a full meal that should satiate you completely, feeling that way is a big sign to me that there is an emotional component. Feeling "satisfied" from a meal is WAY different than the emotional feeling of fullness you get when eating while overweight. And I SOOOO speaking from experience on this one.I've had bloods done a few times over the last 12 months, nothing shows up. I can't really justify going to the Dr to say "I'm on a diet and I'm hungry". I doubt they would do much. As for even trying to make a Dr understand that I feel I should have less of an appetite due to my keto lifestyle, forget it. My thyroid was okay last time it was checked a couple of years ago.
And yes, going to an endocrinologist who focuses on metabolic disorders should very easily be able to help you with the whole, I'm eating Keto, and I still feel perpetually starved stuff!!! Please don't continue to suffer through this. That is no quality of life. If there is even one random supplement you could take that might ease any of this, I'd love to see you take it and regain some quality of life.
Sincerest hugs, Carly0 -
leonidas_and_spartacus wrote: »leonidas_and_spartacus wrote: »
You are fat because you ate crap. Eat clean and till you are full. It doesn't matter much how much crap you eat, its still a crap. I can eat 4000 calories on some days and not gain weight. Human body is not a number, give the body when it needs food, don't force eat or emotionally eat when you don't need to. I eat one big meal most of the days and never feel hungry. If I feel hungry, I eat more, I don't hold back because of some random number pulled off the internet.
This is both rude and presumptuous. But thank you for your opinion. I generally do not, and have never "eaten crap" on an every day basis. I am fat because my body tells me it wants more food than it needs. I live in here, I think I'd know. Even before getting serious and restricting carbs to below 20g a day my diet has predominantly been whole foods, meat, vegetables, cheese and whatnot. Takeaway maybe once a month. No soda, or candy, or chips or other rubbish. I am a good cook, I have no need to eat that rubbish. Never have.
To try and respond to all the other suggestions. I don't emotional eat, not anymore. I eat because I'm hungry. I take the required supplements. I drink plenty of water. I eat plenty of fat. I do IF, I don't normally eat until I get home from work at 12:30pm. Just coffee in the morning.
I have experimented a few times by eating what my body tells me I need, until I'm not tummy growling, headache inducing, stay awake at night hungry anymore, and it ends up being about 2500 cals. Consistently. And I gain weight on this much. So I stand by my previous post. Some of you need to understand that we are not all the same.
Reasons I Low Carb. Everyone in my family has diabetes (8 uncles, 2 aunts and my dad). I'm 40 and scared I'm going to get diabetes too, it's ruined my Dad and he's a sick old man at 65. Low Carb does wonders for my joint pain. Low carb does NOT make it any easier for me to lose weight. I want it to. I want to get to the point many of you talk about, where you're losing weight because you don't want to eat as much. My macros are right, I track everything, but it just hasn't happened. Even last year, over 9 months, I never got to that point. I can lose weight, but I need to eat 1750 cals or less a day. And I'm hungry. Every day.
You probably need to get a full hormone panel done and get to bottom of the problem. This doesn't sound normal. Ignoring the body won't make it better, you can struggle to manage the hunger or find a fix for it.
As much as his attitude/way of talking grates me, I agree with this one.
@shai74, your case reminds me of my grandfather's condition. He didn't have problems with his thyroid that I know of, but he had a condition that affected his hypothalamus. He literally never felt full, because his hypothalamus never sent that signal.
Doctors get so hung up on the thyroid that they almost never look to...oh, I don't know...the entire rest of the endocrine system when something is so clearly not right (fun fact, TSH is not a thyroid hormone, it's a pituitary one). Get a full panel done, and/or get a referral to an endocrinologist. That level of hunger is not normal and there's very likely something going on.0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »leonidas_and_spartacus wrote: »leonidas_and_spartacus wrote: »
You are fat because you ate crap. Eat clean and till you are full. It doesn't matter much how much crap you eat, its still a crap. I can eat 4000 calories on some days and not gain weight. Human body is not a number, give the body when it needs food, don't force eat or emotionally eat when you don't need to. I eat one big meal most of the days and never feel hungry. If I feel hungry, I eat more, I don't hold back because of some random number pulled off the internet.
This is both rude and presumptuous. But thank you for your opinion. I generally do not, and have never "eaten crap" on an every day basis. I am fat because my body tells me it wants more food than it needs. I live in here, I think I'd know. Even before getting serious and restricting carbs to below 20g a day my diet has predominantly been whole foods, meat, vegetables, cheese and whatnot. Takeaway maybe once a month. No soda, or candy, or chips or other rubbish. I am a good cook, I have no need to eat that rubbish. Never have.
To try and respond to all the other suggestions. I don't emotional eat, not anymore. I eat because I'm hungry. I take the required supplements. I drink plenty of water. I eat plenty of fat. I do IF, I don't normally eat until I get home from work at 12:30pm. Just coffee in the morning.
I have experimented a few times by eating what my body tells me I need, until I'm not tummy growling, headache inducing, stay awake at night hungry anymore, and it ends up being about 2500 cals. Consistently. And I gain weight on this much. So I stand by my previous post. Some of you need to understand that we are not all the same.
Reasons I Low Carb. Everyone in my family has diabetes (8 uncles, 2 aunts and my dad). I'm 40 and scared I'm going to get diabetes too, it's ruined my Dad and he's a sick old man at 65. Low Carb does wonders for my joint pain. Low carb does NOT make it any easier for me to lose weight. I want it to. I want to get to the point many of you talk about, where you're losing weight because you don't want to eat as much. My macros are right, I track everything, but it just hasn't happened. Even last year, over 9 months, I never got to that point. I can lose weight, but I need to eat 1750 cals or less a day. And I'm hungry. Every day.
You probably need to get a full hormone panel done and get to bottom of the problem. This doesn't sound normal. Ignoring the body won't make it better, you can struggle to manage the hunger or find a fix for it.
As much as his attitude/way of talking grates me, I agree with this one.
@shai74, your case reminds me of my grandfather's condition. He didn't have problems with his thyroid that I know of, but he had a condition that affected his hypothalamus. He literally never felt full, because his hypothalamus never sent that signal.
Doctors get so hung up on the thyroid that they almost never look to...oh, I don't know...the entire rest of the endocrine system when something is so clearly not right (fun fact, TSH is not a thyroid hormone, it's a pituitary one). Get a full panel done, and/or get a referral to an endocrinologist. That level of hunger is not normal and there's very likely something going on.
I SOOOOO had to laugh out lough at the "they never think to check" everything else!!!!!!!! That is so true!
To stay marketable, doctors either have to hyper focus on a specialty to the exclusion of all else OR maintain such general knowledge to cover everything lightly and be deficient in details unless the subject is his/her personal passion...
So thanks for that reminder that we have to look at the big picture and the small picture - because we have to cover all the gaps!!0 -
I just wanted to comment on the tracking issue. It wasn't until I started to track my intake, did I discover that I hadn't been eating enough - for decades. Thus the reason I could never seem to lose weight. Low carbing was great for my body, and my blood sugar was vastly improved, but the weight didn't budge, and in fact, climbed slowly for years. I had the opposite problem - I was rarely hungry.
Since I started tracking, then increasing my intake to 1400-1500 cal daily, I have finally seen the weight loss I had worked so hard for in the past. I continue to track, because I'm still 'training' my body to NEED that much food, because I don't want to have to do it forever. Once its a habit, I hope to walk away from inputting completely, and let my scale tell me when I need to pay attention.
I completely agree that anyone that thinks they have metabolic issues needs an endocrinologist. Even that is not the complete answer though. Once you know what your levels are, and your metabolic status determined, YOU need to advocate for yourself. Knowledge is power.0
