Keto questions

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  • DittoDan
    DittoDan Posts: 1,850 Member
    edited September 2015
    Batlady49 wrote: »
    weigh over my head. The acronyms alone is hard to figure out. WOE, YMMV, ???. I stick to 60 grams or less a day per my doc and nutritionist. Have a great day

    Blog #10 Keto: Abbreviations, Acronyms & Terminology Used on the LCD & Keto Discussion Groups Updated

    I hope this helps,
    Dan the Man from Michigan
    Keto / Water Fasting / E.A.S.Y. Exercise Program
    110 pounds down, 24 to go. 12 months 3 weeks on diet
  • monikker
    monikker Posts: 322 Member
    How critical is it to stay at <20 g carbs for ketosis? I've seen a lot of people saying they're in keto at 30 or even 50 net grams
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    It varies but between 45-50 grams seems to be the glass ceiling to be in ketosis.

    It takes using a glucose/ketone meter to be precise.

    If fasting is at say 95 BG and eats and a little later it reads 102 then you know you ate over 15 carbs which is about the max based on three meals as I understand it today.
  • I had carbmares, but I smothercated them.
  • radiii
    radiii Posts: 422 Member
    monikker wrote: »
    How critical is it to stay at <20 g carbs for ketosis? I've seen a lot of people saying they're in keto at 30 or even 50 net grams

    Its not really. The beginner recommendation that I tend to make is to start at 20 if you're just going all in/cold turkey for keto and to aim for that low number of carbs to just aboslutely 100% guarentee that you get into ketosis and get keto adapted, and then to experiment with your carb count and how you feel if you want.

    Others take a different approach and start at a higher number of carbs and lower slowly until they find a place where they're happy. That approach never worked at all for me, personally, I needed the cold turkey start and have never seen a need to change so far.
  • chaoticdreams
    chaoticdreams Posts: 447 Member
    I had to do the 20g or less at the start to adjust quicker, but now vary day to day without going over 50g. The first month I had carbmares LOL. I'd dream about eating chocolate cake and waffles and then getting mad at myself for going off plan in the dream. They went away very quickly thankfully.

  • monikker
    monikker Posts: 322 Member
    I think I have awake carbmares where I just have intense carb fantasies/daydreams at night before I go to bed. I've had one dream where my girlfriend just wanted to eat carbs and I was mad at her for it but ate some with her anyway. Think that's the only related dream I've had so far that I remember
  • Lillith32
    Lillith32 Posts: 483 Member
    I have dreams like that all the time. I'm at a party or something, and there is a huge buffet table with gorgeous looking desserts, and I am eating one, and I feel miserable and guilty. Then I wake up and think, dang, that was just a dream, why didn't I stuff my face with all the not-real sweets...
  • Keto_T
    Keto_T Posts: 673 Member
    monikker wrote: »
    I think even when we ate vegetation that we probably at least ate bugs or something moving with protein.

    New question: Quest bars. I'm craving something sweet. Should I risk all the sugar alcohols and questionable fiber source to have something sweet if I've gotta have something?

    I love, love, love quest bars but I'll eat a whole box in two days.....bad, bad. I think on top of portion control issues they also stall me. Sugar alcohols are not my friend. I bought these recently and they are awesome-dont cause me cravings, i can eat just one, no sugar alcohols. A little pricy but very good. The are more like a chocolate bar than a granola-feeling (quest-type) bar. The have coconut in them for those who dont like coconut.
    http://www.ketobars.com/collections/frontpage/products/keto-bars-10-pack

    T~
  • Lillith32
    Lillith32 Posts: 483 Member
    I ate a quest bar today, and it didn't go down well. Not only do I absolutely hate the taste, it makes my stomach hurt, which is really too bad, as they are so convenient and I want to be able to eat them. I think it's one of those 'to each their own' thing. My advice would be to try them and see how you do.
  • nicintime
    nicintime Posts: 381 Member
    I had carbmares, but I smothercated them.

    The REAL question - Will Carbmares spike your insulin?!? :smiley:
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    nicintime wrote: »
    I had carbmares, but I smothercated them.

    The REAL question - Will Carbmares spike your insulin?!? :smiley:

    :D LOL
  • monikker
    monikker Posts: 322 Member
    How do you guys feel about fasting? I might try a day of just liquids (water, Powerado Zero, probably coffee)
  • nicintime wrote: »
    I had carbmares, but I smothercated them.

    The REAL question - Will Carbmares spike your insulin?!? :smiley:

    They do spike my feelings of

    "Why do I sometimes want something that is proven over and over again to be bad for me"

    Ha!

    Food is such a strange thing at times. I'm trying to feel less of an emotional attachment to it.

    Usually I do well. The holidays always had those sweet treats

    Now just the thought of old family dinners around the holidays spikes my insulin and I think I gain a pound too!

  • JessicaLCHF
    JessicaLCHF Posts: 1,265 Member
    Lillith32 wrote: »
    I ate a quest bar today, and it didn't go down well. Not only do I absolutely hate the taste, it makes my stomach hurt, which is really too bad, as they are so convenient and I want to be able to eat them. I think it's one of those 'to each their own' thing. My advice would be to try them and see how you do.

    Agree. They also leave a chemical taste that lingers. No bars and shakes for me, unless it's a meal emergency, like I'm traveling and no time to stop for real food. I haven't had one in months.
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,018 Member
    nicintime wrote: »
    I had carbmares, but I smothercated them.

    The REAL question - Will Carbmares spike your insulin?!? :smiley:

    I don't know, but they certainly spike my cortisol. :grimace:



  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    monikker wrote: »
    How do you guys feel about fasting? I might try a day of just liquids (water, Powerado Zero, probably coffee)

    Fasting is relatively popular around here. A lot of people fall into some sort of fasting pattern naturally (usually, it's a daily 16-20 hour fast; basically one or two meals a day), though many will intentionally do it. It's a fantastic tool for lowering blood sugar and insulin, and LCHF lends itself well to supporting fasts of just about all kinds.

    Check out the archived discussions. You should be able to find a number of threads discussing fasting, as well as a number of resources, including videos from Dr. Jason Fung (well-known nephrologist who champions fasting as a way of reversing diabetes), and other websites. There's also an Intermittent Fasting group here on MFP that you should consider joining if you're interested in learning more. They'll have tons of information.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    @monikker Regarding sweet treats, in the beginning while adapting, as someone else mentioned, I felt best making low carb version of those things. Google the work Keto in front of whatever you're dying for (and as mentioned in another thread, that nutrient needs can actually be communicated to our brains in cravings, so check for associated deficiencies/nutrients)...

    Keto cereal "honey" taste
    Keto donuts

    Etc. There are recipes out there.

    That being said, for me when, when carb cravings struck, I fed it with fats. It really helps your brain rewire quicker.

    Here are a few fat bomb selections if you choose to do this, but be warned. These are intended in small quantities, and once in a while. I made the mistake of making these a daily supplement habit, and I'm a ship just now getting righted after 7-8 months keto.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/cream-cheese-clouds-recipe-728462
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/recipe-jello-fat-bombs-731743
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/what-are-fat-bombs-738493

    I have a ton of other stuff too, but I thought this might help that thinking process. (I love all your questions - every single one is one I've asked myself along the way!)