Who we are and why we do the things we do
Sunny_Bunny_
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I'm feeling all deep and philosophical today guys. Bare with me, I'm going to try really really hard to be brief. This isn't really "diet" related but the links I included could lead to some personal understanding or growth that benefits you in that area.
Ok, lets ride!
I am in a kind of funky, down but also uplifted mood today in response to, of all things, an internet argument I was in last night.
Ya'all, I went and got myself banned from a Facebook group! For real! The thing is, I truly didn't do anything wrong. I know I know... stay with me. Without detailing the whole insane mess, what basically happened was I made a comment presenting a perspective that wasn't controversial or anything. It was just, sharing my own experience while literally including that I wasn't opposing the others ideas at all. I actually included words to make sure I wasn't being misunderstood. I wasn't stating anything as fact or science in any way.
I got immediately attacked by 3 people that replied in such a way that I knew they misunderstood me. I directed them back to what I originally said and told them they were misunderstanding.
This went on to the three of them literally mocking me and saying they knew what I "really meant" and actually making fun of me with each other.
Some other people tried to step in and they got attacked too.
At the end, I was actually able to prove that they misunderstood me and I got a crappy apology from one of them and I stopped commenting/defending myself. The worst offender acknowledged the misunderstanding at first then started back in on me again (even after I stopped commenting) and this morning I see that I'm banned. The one that was the most rude to me is an admin on that page and also on a forum elsewhere. If anyone wants to know who to be careful of, message me and I'll let you know. I really wish I would've screenshot it because it was seriously crazy how bent and twisted they were behaving.
Ok anyway, this whole thing got me thinking about why we do the things we do because I felt so bullied by these people. It upset me more than it should have but I realize I have a hardcore need for mean people to just not be able to get away with it! Lol Two very nice people associated with another very reputable group messaged me to invite me to their group and I found out this behavior from the others is nothing new. These are big groups you guys. The mean admin has been a particular podcasts guest a few times. One of the nice peeps is friends with the groups founder and actually told me he messaged him directly on my behalf because of wrong it was and assured me I hadn't said anything out of line. Actually complimenting me on how I handled their bullying.
Anyway, I'm trying to not make this too long and failing miserably.
Because I started thinking about personalities while talking to one of the rescuers, I remembered this site I took a personality test on a while back. I think these are fun and help us understand our own behavior and that of others.
Because of my test, I know why such a stupid thing bothered me so much. I felt misunderstood and then I felt a need for justice. I will let it go of course because I also know these things are just going to happen and just because I feel something 'should' happen, doesn't mean it needs to happen for me to be just fine.
I started thinking some of you guys might like this site too. It's kinda nice to feel understood even if it is just from a personality assessment online. (Imagine emoji here because I don't want it to eat my post)
Here's a link to the test page. It's free. And fun!
https://www.16personalities.com
And if you're curious about my particular personality assessment in case my rambling post has you thinking I'm a few marbles short today.... here are my strengths and weaknesses. They make my dumb internet argument story make sense. Lol
INFP strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.16personalities.com/infp-strengths-and-weaknesses
I'd love to hear what others assessments say.
I'm really hoping for this to be about the personalities and how understanding ourselves can be beneficial in different ways, especially if it helps with your low carb goals.
I'm definitely not after a discussion about internet bullies. They exist, even in surprising places. That's just gonna have to be ok.
I hope you enjoy your assessments.
Ok, lets ride!
I am in a kind of funky, down but also uplifted mood today in response to, of all things, an internet argument I was in last night.
Ya'all, I went and got myself banned from a Facebook group! For real! The thing is, I truly didn't do anything wrong. I know I know... stay with me. Without detailing the whole insane mess, what basically happened was I made a comment presenting a perspective that wasn't controversial or anything. It was just, sharing my own experience while literally including that I wasn't opposing the others ideas at all. I actually included words to make sure I wasn't being misunderstood. I wasn't stating anything as fact or science in any way.
I got immediately attacked by 3 people that replied in such a way that I knew they misunderstood me. I directed them back to what I originally said and told them they were misunderstanding.
This went on to the three of them literally mocking me and saying they knew what I "really meant" and actually making fun of me with each other.
Some other people tried to step in and they got attacked too.
At the end, I was actually able to prove that they misunderstood me and I got a crappy apology from one of them and I stopped commenting/defending myself. The worst offender acknowledged the misunderstanding at first then started back in on me again (even after I stopped commenting) and this morning I see that I'm banned. The one that was the most rude to me is an admin on that page and also on a forum elsewhere. If anyone wants to know who to be careful of, message me and I'll let you know. I really wish I would've screenshot it because it was seriously crazy how bent and twisted they were behaving.
Ok anyway, this whole thing got me thinking about why we do the things we do because I felt so bullied by these people. It upset me more than it should have but I realize I have a hardcore need for mean people to just not be able to get away with it! Lol Two very nice people associated with another very reputable group messaged me to invite me to their group and I found out this behavior from the others is nothing new. These are big groups you guys. The mean admin has been a particular podcasts guest a few times. One of the nice peeps is friends with the groups founder and actually told me he messaged him directly on my behalf because of wrong it was and assured me I hadn't said anything out of line. Actually complimenting me on how I handled their bullying.
Anyway, I'm trying to not make this too long and failing miserably.
Because I started thinking about personalities while talking to one of the rescuers, I remembered this site I took a personality test on a while back. I think these are fun and help us understand our own behavior and that of others.
Because of my test, I know why such a stupid thing bothered me so much. I felt misunderstood and then I felt a need for justice. I will let it go of course because I also know these things are just going to happen and just because I feel something 'should' happen, doesn't mean it needs to happen for me to be just fine.
I started thinking some of you guys might like this site too. It's kinda nice to feel understood even if it is just from a personality assessment online. (Imagine emoji here because I don't want it to eat my post)
Here's a link to the test page. It's free. And fun!
https://www.16personalities.com
And if you're curious about my particular personality assessment in case my rambling post has you thinking I'm a few marbles short today.... here are my strengths and weaknesses. They make my dumb internet argument story make sense. Lol
INFP strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.16personalities.com/infp-strengths-and-weaknesses
I'd love to hear what others assessments say.
I'm really hoping for this to be about the personalities and how understanding ourselves can be beneficial in different ways, especially if it helps with your low carb goals.
I'm definitely not after a discussion about internet bullies. They exist, even in surprising places. That's just gonna have to be ok.
I hope you enjoy your assessments.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I'm feeling all deep and philosophical today guys. Bare with me, I'm going to try really really hard to be brief. This isn't really "diet" related but the links I included could lead to some personal understanding or growth that benefits you in that area.
Ok, lets ride!
I am in a kind of funky, down but also uplifted mood today in response to, of all things, an internet argument I was in last night.
Ya'all, I went and got myself banned from a Facebook group! For real! The thing is, I truly didn't do anything wrong. I know I know... stay with me. Without detailing the whole insane mess, what basically happened was I made a comment presenting a perspective that wasn't controversial or anything. It was just, sharing my own experience while literally including that I wasn't opposing the others ideas at all. I actually included words to make sure I wasn't being misunderstood. I wasn't stating anything as fact or science in any way.
I got immediately attacked by 3 people that replied in such a way that I knew they misunderstood me. I directed them back to what I originally said and told them they were misunderstanding.
This went on to the three of them literally mocking me and saying they knew what I "really meant" and actually making fun of me with each other.
Some other people tried to step in and they got attacked too.
At the end, I was actually able to prove that they misunderstood me and I got a crappy apology from one of them and I stopped commenting/defending myself. The worst offender acknowledged the misunderstanding at first then started back in on me again (even after I stopped commenting) and this morning I see that I'm banned. The one that was the most rude to me is an admin on that page and also on a forum elsewhere. If anyone wants to know who to be careful of, message me and I'll let you know. I really wish I would've screenshot it because it was seriously crazy how bent and twisted they were behaving.
Ok anyway, this whole thing got me thinking about why we do the things we do because I felt so bullied by these people. It upset me more than it should have but I realize I have a hardcore need for mean people to just not be able to get away with it! Lol Two very nice people associated with another very reputable group messaged me to invite me to their group and I found out this behavior from the others is nothing new. These are big groups you guys. The mean admin has been a particular podcasts guest a few times. One of the nice peeps is friends with the groups founder and actually told me he messaged him directly on my behalf because of wrong it was and assured me I hadn't said anything out of line. Actually complimenting me on how I handled their bullying.
Anyway, I'm trying to not make this too long and failing miserably.
Because I started thinking about personalities while talking to one of the rescuers, I remembered this site I took a personality test on a while back. I think these are fun and help us understand our own behavior and that of others.
Because of my test, I know why such a stupid thing bothered me so much. I felt misunderstood and then I felt a need for justice. I will let it go of course because I also know these things are just going to happen and just because I feel something 'should' happen, doesn't mean it needs to happen for me to be just fine.
I started thinking some of you guys might like this site too. It's kinda nice to feel understood even if it is just from a personality assessment online. (Imagine emoji here because I don't want it to eat my post)
Here's a link to the test page. It's free. And fun!
https://www.16personalities.com
And if you're curious about my particular personality assessment in case my rambling post has you thinking I'm a few marbles short today.... here are my strengths and weaknesses. They make my dumb internet argument story make sense. Lol
INFP strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.16personalities.com/infp-strengths-and-weaknesses
I'd love to hear what others assessments say.
I'm really hoping for this to be about the personalities and how understanding ourselves can be beneficial in different ways, especially if it helps with your low carb goals.
I'm definitely not after a discussion about internet bullies. They exist, even in surprising places. That's just gonna have to be ok.
I hope you enjoy your assessments.
Ha. We're twins.0 -
I'm right there with you gallowmere!0
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baconslave wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I'm feeling all deep and philosophical today guys. Bare with me, I'm going to try really really hard to be brief. This isn't really "diet" related but the links I included could lead to some personal understanding or growth that benefits you in that area.
Ok, lets ride!
I am in a kind of funky, down but also uplifted mood today in response to, of all things, an internet argument I was in last night.
Ya'all, I went and got myself banned from a Facebook group! For real! The thing is, I truly didn't do anything wrong. I know I know... stay with me. Without detailing the whole insane mess, what basically happened was I made a comment presenting a perspective that wasn't controversial or anything. It was just, sharing my own experience while literally including that I wasn't opposing the others ideas at all. I actually included words to make sure I wasn't being misunderstood. I wasn't stating anything as fact or science in any way.
I got immediately attacked by 3 people that replied in such a way that I knew they misunderstood me. I directed them back to what I originally said and told them they were misunderstanding.
This went on to the three of them literally mocking me and saying they knew what I "really meant" and actually making fun of me with each other.
Some other people tried to step in and they got attacked too.
At the end, I was actually able to prove that they misunderstood me and I got a crappy apology from one of them and I stopped commenting/defending myself. The worst offender acknowledged the misunderstanding at first then started back in on me again (even after I stopped commenting) and this morning I see that I'm banned. The one that was the most rude to me is an admin on that page and also on a forum elsewhere. If anyone wants to know who to be careful of, message me and I'll let you know. I really wish I would've screenshot it because it was seriously crazy how bent and twisted they were behaving.
Ok anyway, this whole thing got me thinking about why we do the things we do because I felt so bullied by these people. It upset me more than it should have but I realize I have a hardcore need for mean people to just not be able to get away with it! Lol Two very nice people associated with another very reputable group messaged me to invite me to their group and I found out this behavior from the others is nothing new. These are big groups you guys. The mean admin has been a particular podcasts guest a few times. One of the nice peeps is friends with the groups founder and actually told me he messaged him directly on my behalf because of wrong it was and assured me I hadn't said anything out of line. Actually complimenting me on how I handled their bullying.
Anyway, I'm trying to not make this too long and failing miserably.
Because I started thinking about personalities while talking to one of the rescuers, I remembered this site I took a personality test on a while back. I think these are fun and help us understand our own behavior and that of others.
Because of my test, I know why such a stupid thing bothered me so much. I felt misunderstood and then I felt a need for justice. I will let it go of course because I also know these things are just going to happen and just because I feel something 'should' happen, doesn't mean it needs to happen for me to be just fine.
I started thinking some of you guys might like this site too. It's kinda nice to feel understood even if it is just from a personality assessment online. (Imagine emoji here because I don't want it to eat my post)
Here's a link to the test page. It's free. And fun!
https://www.16personalities.com
And if you're curious about my particular personality assessment in case my rambling post has you thinking I'm a few marbles short today.... here are my strengths and weaknesses. They make my dumb internet argument story make sense. Lol
INFP strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.16personalities.com/infp-strengths-and-weaknesses
I'd love to hear what others assessments say.
I'm really hoping for this to be about the personalities and how understanding ourselves can be beneficial in different ways, especially if it helps with your low carb goals.
I'm definitely not after a discussion about internet bullies. They exist, even in surprising places. That's just gonna have to be ok.
I hope you enjoy your assessments.
Ha. We're twins.
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
This is a strong but great quality I definitely see from your communications.
"Independent and Decisive – This creativity, logic and confidence come together to form individuals who stand on their own and take responsibility for their own actions. Authority figures do not impress INTJs, nor do social conventions or tradition, and no matter how popular something is"
I can always understand the logic in the things you suggest even if I don't totally feel the exact same1 -
I've done personality tests, and I know I'm not a "people person." I'm actually very smart and have a lot of knowledge, but just can't seem to figure out how to communicate with other people. Specifically with online message boards, groups, etc.; I've found that my lack of communication abilities doesn't really seem to matter anyway. Moderators usually don't care about your post... they only seem to care about how other people react. It is reinforcement of group-think.
For example, in a diabetic group I'm a part of on Facebook (includes both type 1's and type 2's), someone made a post asking for ideas of low carb foods. She didn't say it, but my guess is that her doctor suggested this (good job on him/her if that is the case). Several people made comments. One person made 3 separate comments for 3 separate memes of "diabetic foods" listed. Under each of these meme comments, I noted which foods were listed that were or were not actually low carb... for example, pointing out that "whole grain bread" is not a low carb food. That person must have complained because one of the mods messaged me saying these foods listed are "healthy" and that I shouldn't have commented on them. I responded that the question was not about "healthy" at all, but about "low carb" and that my comments were absolutely appropriate. She didn't have a good argument about that, so then she complained how I shouldn't have commented under each post. The same person had made 3 comments under the main post, so why am I limited to only 1 comment?! Anyway, the bottom line is that somebody got upset and took my corrections personally. Did I intend them to be personal? No. There is no way I think I could have phrased the facts to be both informative and to avoid this person from taking them as a personal attack of some sort on her memes. Even though I was totally right, and I could tell the mod knew I was right, she was just acting based upon the reaction of another person. This isn't the only example... I've seen that on a lot of sites and in a lot of circumstances. Sometimes I just think mods need to tell those who are over-reacting to step back and evaluate after they have cooled off.
ETA: I got Logistician: https://www.16personalities.com/istj-personality4 -
"Taking a certain pleasure in being the underdog, ENTPs enjoy the mental exercise found in questioning the prevailing mode of thought"
Are you sure you're just low carb for health1 -
mine is what I thought it'd be:
https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality0 -
This is one of many tests I have taken - my degree is in psychology, although the last psychology class I took was 20+ years ago. It is a pretty good test, IMO.
https://www.16personalities.com/estp-personality0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
"Taking a certain pleasure in being the underdog, ENTPs enjoy the mental exercise found in questioning the prevailing mode of thought"
Are you sure you're just low carb for health
no - I'm low-carb because I cannot control myself around carbs (I binge until I'm stuffed)0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »
"Taking a certain pleasure in being the underdog, ENTPs enjoy the mental exercise found in questioning the prevailing mode of thought"
Are you sure you're just low carb for health
no - I'm low-carb because I cannot control myself around carbs (I binge until I'm stuffed)
Me too! Well, when it was candy anyway...0 -
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carimiller7391 wrote: »mine is what I thought it'd be:
https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality
"Imaginative and Observant – ISFJs are very imaginative, and use this quality as an accessory to empathy, observing others’ emotional states and seeing things from their perspective. With their feet firmly planted on the ground, it is a very practical imagination, though they do find things quite fascinating and inspiring."
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cstehansen wrote: »This is one of many tests I have taken - my degree is in psychology, although the last psychology class I took was 20+ years ago. It is a pretty good test, IMO.
https://www.16personalities.com/estp-personality
"Original – Combining their boldness and practicality, ESTPs love to experiment with new ideas and solutions. They put things together in ways no one else would think to."
Now that's a helpful quality for sure!0 -
So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???1
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Ha! I don't know... see what insight the test provides1 -
https://www.16personalities.com/isfp-personality
ISFP-T
I got this result twice so I guess it's accurate but honestly I don't really feel like it's me. Small aspects but on the whole no. So the introverted part is right. The being in tune with other's emotions is right. I guess I am easy to get along with because I dislike conflict and am very live and let live. However I'm not what I'd describe as an adventurer. I do not like risky behavior like gambling or extreme sports. I am not particularly creative or artistic. I would say I do not live in the moment. I am constantly focused on what I could have done different 10 years ago to improve my outcome today yet am very complacent in the moment thus making the same mistakes. My friends are not surprised at my introverted-ness when I step out of the spotlight they'd be surprised if I stepped in! True story my friend used to like playing bingo and I hated going because I had such anxiety about having to yell bingo...we had a deal that I ever hit bingo we'd trade cards and she'd call it for me. I would rather give up the prize than yell bingo. lol2 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Well ...... definitely a "P" at the end of your type.
Me .... I am one of the rescuers. Cannot help myself. When there is upset or injustice or when there is a misfit looking for a friend.
I love this test. Did it years ago when working in an IT department. Surrounded by INTJ or INTP in both home and work ....
I am a INFJ. No wonder I did not fit in!2 -
I wasn't sure I would agree with the outcome because I wasn't sure I was answering the questions totally honestly....lol....but I think it did figure me out...
https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality
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https://www.16personalities.com/isfp-personality
ISFP-T
I got this result twice so I guess it's accurate but honestly I don't really feel like it's me. Small aspects but on the whole no. So the introverted part is right. The being in tune with other's emotions is right. I guess I am easy to get along with because I dislike conflict and am very live and let live. However I'm not what I'd describe as an adventurer. I do not like risky behavior like gambling or extreme sports. I am not particularly creative or artistic. I would say I do not live in the moment. I am constantly focused on what I could have done different 10 years ago to improve my outcome today yet am very complacent in the moment thus making the same mistakes. My friends are not surprised at my introverted-ness when I step out of the spotlight they'd be surprised if I stepped in! True story my friend used to like playing bingo and I hated going because I had such anxiety about having to yell bingo...we had a deal that I ever hit bingo we'd trade cards and she'd call it for me. I would rather give up the prize than yell bingo. lol
Interesting. I wonder if there will be others that aren't a good fit?0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Ha! I don't know... see what insight the test provides
@Sunny_Bunny_
So I took it as the "ideal me," as in who I strive to and aspire to be in all situations. That came out as ENFJ-A.
Then, I took it as the "real me," how I end up being in a situation, no matter how I try to be. That came out ISFP-T...
The only consistency was the Feeling part...74% feeling on the ideal me, 68% on the "real" me...
Going to go look at the rest of my results.
What does that say? That I'm nowhere near what I want to be? Or my idealized version is so different from my true spirit? That something is holding me back?? I don't know, maybe it's just my normal split personality self... *sigh*1 -
That is so cool! I am The Advocate” (INFJ-A), and I feel like it was very accurate. I want my teenagers to do this test. It is good to understand your strengths and weakness. Especially when you are looking forward to career choices. Thanks for the link! I am fascinated.2
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There are a number of books that go with this test.
https://www.amazon.ca/Please-Understand-Temperment-Character-Intelligence/dp/1885705026
I still have the 1970 version on my shelf! There are also some on specifics: workplace interactions, spouses, and children.1 -
I have googled and read descriptors on other sites and my result might not be that off base. I guess at the core I do have a lot of the traits mentioned for ISFP-T. Especially the parts about not doing much planning. lol1
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https://www.16personalities.com/entp-personality
Debater entp-tDebaters’ capacity for debate can be a vexing one – while often appreciated when it’s called for, it can fall painfully flat when they step on others’ toes by say, openly questioning their boss in a meeting, or picking apart everything their significant other says. This is further complicated by Debaters’ unyielding honesty, as this type doesn’t mince words and cares little about being seen as sensitive or compassionate. Likeminded types get along well enough with people with the Debater personality type, but more sensitive types, and society in general, are often conflict-averse, preferring feelings, comfort, and even white lies over unpleasant truths and hard rationality.
...I feel like X-rayed ...I'm sorry I probably often step on toes here too, in search for an ephemeral truth inside my head.2 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Ha! I don't know... see what insight the test provides
@Sunny_Bunny_
So I took it as the "ideal me," as in who I strive to and aspire to be in all situations. That came out as ENFJ-A.
Then, I took it as the "real me," how I end up being in a situation, no matter how I try to be. That came out ISFP-T...
The only consistency was the Feeling part...74% feeling on the ideal me, 68% on the "real" me...
Going to go look at the rest of my results.
What does that say? That I'm nowhere near what I want to be? Or my idealized version is so different from my true spirit? That something is holding me back?? I don't know, maybe it's just my normal split personality self... *sigh*
I'd say, embrace the real you! Sounds like great qualities to me!1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Ha! I don't know... see what insight the test provides
@Sunny_Bunny_
So I took it as the "ideal me," as in who I strive to and aspire to be in all situations. That came out as ENFJ-A.
Then, I took it as the "real me," how I end up being in a situation, no matter how I try to be. That came out ISFP-T...
The only consistency was the Feeling part...74% feeling on the ideal me, 68% on the "real" me...
Going to go look at the rest of my results.
What does that say? That I'm nowhere near what I want to be? Or my idealized version is so different from my true spirit? That something is holding me back?? I don't know, maybe it's just my normal split personality self... *sigh*
I'd say, embrace the real you! Sounds like great qualities to me!
So, embrace the crazy chaotic person who can't make a to-do list or complete one; who feels off her rocker without a plan, yet can never quite pull one off; who goes back and forth between military type precision and utter chaos with more ease than people change socks or underwear? I could go on...but the funny part is that the traits that are probably most central to the ME-me....those are the ones I always aspire to change... So it's either "suck it up buttercup" or "get off your butt and change it?"2 -
@Foamroller I'm the opposite in that I will often fail to speak up because I don't want to hurt feelings or cause an argument. It's probably better to be more on the side of assertiveness honestly. I have to really, really summon the resolve to point out when people are wrong and that's only if I think their advice could actively cause harm.
I'm sure people think I'm either very agreeable or very rude and don't have many opinions because I stay so quiet. However the people who really know me know I'm quite opinionated and very chatty. I will be talking their head off but if an acquaintance enters the conversation I'm suddenly mute and have no comment! lol. I think I come off as very standoffish to those outside my circle. I can't even count the people who later told me they thought I was a total *kitten* before they got to know me. IDK if they discovered I wasn't one or just got used to me! haha
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I'm an INFP-T Mediator, as well! Well, this time anyway. I've taken this test several times before for classes, work, etc..., and I will always come out an IN, but sometimes INTJ Architect, sometimes INTP Logician, and sometimes INFP Mediator. Must depend on what's going on in my life at the time. But...ever the introvert!2
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