Who we are and why we do the things we do
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Omg! This is exactly on point for High school me. I remember thinking that whoever created Daria knew me. Lol
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Dude. Individual thought is not allowed in this day and age of groupthink, dissenting opinion amongst herds of sheep is illegal! For shame! (lol).
I did the Meyers-Briggs type indicator test 20+ years ago, took it again about six years ago, and again last year. I guess I'm always going to be an ENTJ, as that's what I always get: https://www.16personalities.com/entj-strengths-and-weaknesses
It is no wonder I have repeatedly broken my mother's heart since I was a small child. She is very likely an ESFP/ENFJ or similar (definitely extroverted and popular/social, but very diplomatic and harmonic, unlike me).
I also have been leaning more over the years, to the feeling most of these things are bullshlt, even though yeah, it's TOTALLY great to have someone or something 'get' us and I like doing them. I always go, "OH, that is SOO ME, man! HOW'D they KNOW?!"
Heh.
PS - f**k facebook and especially FB groups. Waste of time.
PPS - bear* with me (sorry, it was bugging me...I mean, I AM an ENTJ, after all)1 -
“The Advocate” (INFJ-T) - the rarest, apparently. Though I don't feel I can be compared to Nelson Mandela or Mother Teresa on many, many levels!
I wonder if mood and state of mind when completing the test significantly influences the result.
I've completed it in an annoyed and a relaxed mood, and while there were obvious trends they weren't exactly the same. When in a bad mood, I think I'm more likely to be hard on myself which alters the results a bit.2 -
I took one of these tests in college (a very long time ago ) and I got ISTJ, which I don't think has changed. I came across this post a few years ago, and it is scary accurate for my definition of hell. Thought you all might enjoy as well!
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/05/the-definition-of-hell-for-each-myers-briggs-personality-type/
LOL Yikes! so true.
My hell:
ISFJ – Everyone you love is yelling at each other and it’s all your fault.
My animal:
ISFJ- Polar Bear
Strengths: Take responsibilities seriously, loyal, good listeners, nurturing
Weaknesses: Difficulties stepping outside of comfort zone, dislikes change.2 -
It says I am an Adventurer (ISFP-T)-- which makes me think I answered wrong!
edit: then I looked for my animal, lol.
A deer.
Strengths: Good listener, appreciates aesthetics and beauty.
Weaknesses: Tends to keep thoughts and feelings private, not good at long term planning.
Spot on! thanks @RalfLott
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It says I am an Adventurer (ISFP-T)-- which makes me think I answered wrong!
edit: then I looked for my animal, lol.
A deer.
Strengths: Good listener, appreciates aesthetics and beauty.
Weaknesses: Tends to keep thoughts and feelings private, not good at long term planning.
Spot on! thanks @RalfLott
@anglyn1 and my wife are Adventurers, too.
As you've discovered, there are more accurate descriptions than the one at 16p!0 -
I took one of these tests in college (a very long time ago ) and I got ISTJ, which I don't think has changed. I came across this post a few years ago, and it is scary accurate for my definition of hell. Thought you all might enjoy as well!
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/05/the-definition-of-hell-for-each-myers-briggs-personality-type/
LOL Yikes! so true.
My hell:
ISFJ – Everyone you love is yelling at each other and it’s all your fault.
My animal:
ISFJ- Polar Bear
Strengths: Take responsibilities seriously, loyal, good listeners, nurturing
Weaknesses: Difficulties stepping outside of comfort zone, dislikes change.
??? Hard to reconcile with your enthusiasm for LC......
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https://www.16personalities.com/infj-personality
The Advocate.
Wasn't what I expected, but all in all quite accurate.
Actually explains some parts of my personality that I have been confused about.
Especially relationships and why they keep falling apart.
Thanks for posting @Sunny_Bunny_ !
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I took one of these tests in college (a very long time ago ) and I got ISTJ, which I don't think has changed. I came across this post a few years ago, and it is scary accurate for my definition of hell. Thought you all might enjoy as well!
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/05/the-definition-of-hell-for-each-myers-briggs-personality-type/
LOL Yikes! so true.
My hell:
ISFJ – Everyone you love is yelling at each other and it’s all your fault.
My animal:
ISFJ- Polar Bear
Strengths: Take responsibilities seriously, loyal, good listeners, nurturing
Weaknesses: Difficulties stepping outside of comfort zone, dislikes change.
??? Hard to reconcile with your enthusiasm for LC......
@RalfLott - there is a certain amount of comfort that comes to people who hate change in dialing in to perfect a dietary change - which means that it is fine-tuning and tweaking, not change, which would be going from 500 carbs a day to 5 carbs a day or some nonsense...at least in my book.1 -
dasher602014 wrote: »@KnitOrMiss I think we all have an ideal in mind. And for me in younger years The test said I was borderline Extravert/Introvert and borderline J and P. As I have aged, more introvert and although I still like things settled, I see things in shades of gray. Always a strong sense of justice but would rather have peace than be seen as right, except in the defense of others. I would like to be more extraverted and I try hard to do that. And exploring all options or settling on a course of action quickly? I think I was taught not to jump to conclusions through my work, so I thought that trusting my gut wasn't the right way of doing things. How much was that me hearing that my way wasn't right so I now tell myself that and how much is really me? I don't know any more. It is all part of me now.
Your description caused a smile for me because I drive my DH mad with lists. Oh I'll make one gladly and feel much better for putting it on paper rather than in my head. But most of the time, I have a different list in my head and quietly follow that one. For an organizer sort, it drives him mad. When it really matters, I put it in gear and get her done with great efficiency but if I don't perceive a need, I follow my own course no matter what I set down on paper with him. It probably looks contrary or scattered from the outside!
For a touchstone, I go back to my junior kindergarten report card. After 6 weeks, she got me. "Works diligently independently but plays well with others. Takes a leading role when necessary. Needs to be encouraged to speak up. Has difficulty knowing left from right but well ahead in other skills. Has trouble with her outer clothing and needs to slow down when dressing". It hasn't changed at all really. But it has got messier with a more complex life, social niceties and trying to keep the peace amongst so many. The dressing hasn't changed. I wish I appeared more organized, I wish I spoke up more, and maybe I won't have surprised so many when my brains showed.
I think you are lady of many parts and really interesting because of it. It is all you even if it seems contrary.
As I suspected: Mediator INFP-T here. Younger I was always a INFJ but the new one feels right now. Fundamentals the same but complex lives and many parts to each of us.
So what cracks me up even more is when I didn't delineate between my ideal and my true actions, I got a different result back in May last year... ISFP-T - The Adventurer... Now it really makes me want to take it again... I also got a result of Campaigner in October last year, I think. Makes me wonder how many of me there are in that ol' noggin. Geez. I know the "not good at long term planning" thing is SOOOO me, but a lot of the other stuff doesn't apply. I think I'm going to read all the Hades, animals, and exhausting things again, to see if I can get a better more rounded idea of me...
And I am definitely far more different now than I was in HS, etc., particularly with regard to speaking up, fighting against social injustice, not letting things get to me, and being out of F's (aka cares) to give, etc. And oh goodness, the lists. If I write one, I will never revisit it. If I don't write one, I manage okay, but I always forget one thing at a minimum... @dasher602014
And in Kindergarten, they attempted to classify me as mentally slow/deficient and were considering holding me back a grade, despite being ahead of the curve in several subjects. I would be coloring or writing, and put down my crayon or pen. I would then sit and stare, not picking up another item to resume my work. Well, it took quite a while for them to figure out that my grandmother had bought be a box of 64 colors to use, and when I put one down, I couldn't figure out which one it was, as I'd inherited a minor aspect of my grandfather's colorblindness. I could not tell the difference between colors of a similar shade. To this day, from the crayon alone, red, red-orange, orange-red, red-pink, pink-red, etc., nearly all the wrappers and crayons look the same. Sometimes, when in rainbow order, 2-3 of them will look identical to me, even being side by side. I'll say something is red, and I'll be told it is pink. I'll think something is blue, but be told it's purple, etc.
P.S. I never had any trouble telling my left from my right, as I am missing half of a finger on my right hand...kind of hard to get them confused after that. LOL0 -
As long as we are looking at the personality types, here is a list of what exhausts us by type.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/11/what-exhausts-each-myers-briggs-personality-type/
ISFJ – Inconsistent People
ISFJs thrive on nurturing and caring for their loved ones. But when the people in their lives are behaving inconsistently, it makes it difficult for the ISFJ to understand how to harmonize with them. The inability to make sense of those they love is highly stressful for the ISFJ and it rapidly drains them of energy.
Oh my gosh....It's totally true.....I hate inconsistancy.....Just make up your mind already!2 -
@KnitOrMiss I am going to look up my book because there is a faint memory of something about one type not being able to pick a type. I will check. I remember doing this test in a large group of 70 people. When we were asked to divide up into our types, there were two of us left standing alone. Me, a very strong INFP and a lady who was really fascinating (at least to me) who did not know her type.
Yeah, sometimes, they get things wrong in Kindergarten. One of my brothers was confirm by the school psychologist (and they rang the test twice) as mental defective. He is the one who has a PhD in Medical BioPhysics and is a consultant for our government. Just marched to a different drum. Colour blindness must have been hard particularly in junior grades. I knew different colours, I just didn't care about rules as to which one went with what.
Even though the world can 'type' us, I find it really interesting because the "what we do" may look the same, but the reasons are entirely different. That is one of the reasons I like being older. I have learned to ask and the answers can be really interesting.2 -
@RalfLott @camtosh @KnitOrMiss Maybe the hallmark of this type: Adventurer (ISFP-T) is not thinking we match the profile??? lol
As for the being a deer...that matches me quite well. I keep my thoughts so well to myself that even in this tumultuous political time those around me have no idea what my opinions are! lol3 -
I took one of these tests in college (a very long time ago ) and I got ISTJ, which I don't think has changed. I came across this post a few years ago, and it is scary accurate for my definition of hell. Thought you all might enjoy as well!
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/05/the-definition-of-hell-for-each-myers-briggs-personality-type/
LOL Yikes! so true.
My hell:
ISFJ – Everyone you love is yelling at each other and it’s all your fault.
My animal:
ISFJ- Polar Bear
Strengths: Take responsibilities seriously, loyal, good listeners, nurturing
Weaknesses: Difficulties stepping outside of comfort zone, dislikes change.
??? Hard to reconcile with your enthusiasm for LC......
LOL Good point.
Go with loyal... We're loyal to what works.
But yes... change is a pain in the butt. I NEVER get around to renovating. LOL1 -
I like the Disney character comparisons
I also found some fun stuff on this site.
https://www.opp.com/en/Using-Type/Garden-Type-table
I may use this as a profile photo
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Yikers. ENTJ-A/-T. The Commander. It looks like I need to work on a few things. I always thought I could be possibly be a jerk, now it's confirmed.3
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slimzandra wrote: »Yikers. ENTJ-A/-T. The Commander. It looks like I need to work on a few things. I always thought I could be possibly be a jerk, now it's confirmed.
Maybe it's "Commender"... typo?2 -
@sunny_bunny_ I realize I have never met another INFP. It is exciting! One of the comments in one of the books had a profound effect for me. It said when interviewing for a job, listen carefully to what the job IS, not what you think the job could be. I always found this hard to do but the awareness was really, really important. But my ability to see what impact a job could have, was seen as a "self starter" thing, so I often got the job. But then I found, it wasn't the job I really wanted because it was the job that IS, not what could be!
The above badge is interesting. I never thought of dreaming as meditation. Now if I can just get back to dreaming instead of ruminating, life would be good.2 -
And it may just be the shape of our brain.
https://yahoo.com/news/nasty-nice-study-links-personality-brain-shape-000603699.html
I expect the different personality types are a plus for society as a whole.
As an INTP-A number 10 below cracked me up. "INTPs have the attention span of a duck on cocaine."
https://www.reddit.com/r/INTP/comments/4ziaet/signs_a_intp_likes_or_is_attracted_to_you/
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And the shape and size of our brains change as we age. Some more than others.
"Using brain scans from over 500 people aged 22 to 36, the new study looked at differences in the cortex -- the wrinkly outer layer of the brain also known as grey matter."
The study stopped at age 36? I am heck of a lot more ornery and bossy at 50+, then I was in my mid-20s.
I guess I can chalk up my "commender" profile to brain change.
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slimzandra wrote: »And the shape and size of our brains change as we age. Some more than others.
"Using brain scans from over 500 people aged 22 to 36, the new study looked at differences in the cortex -- the wrinkly outer layer of the brain also known as grey matter."
The study stopped at age 36? I am heck of a lot more ornery and bossy at 50+, then I was in my mid-20s.
I guess I can chalk up my "commender" profile to brain change.
@slimzandra & @GaleHawkins - maybe that's where the image of the cranky old curmudgeon yelling "you wily kids, get off my lawn!" originated?3 -
@GaleHawkins I have a brain condition in which my skull is actually too small for my brain and basically the pressure pushes your cerebellar tonsils outside the skull through the foramen magnum. So now I'm curious if over time and pressure this changes your brain shape and if so does it change your personality or do you still have the personality of the default brain shape you started with? I had surgery to remove part of my skull and my C1 vertebra to give my brain room so then that maybe changed my brain shape again? It poses interesting questions for certain!2
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dasher602014 wrote: »@sunny_bunny_ I realize I have never met another INFP. It is exciting! One of the comments in one of the books had a profound effect for me. It said when interviewing for a job, listen carefully to what the job IS, not what you think the job could be. I always found this hard to do but the awareness was really, really important. But my ability to see what impact a job could have, was seen as a "self starter" thing, so I often got the job. But then I found, it wasn't the job I really wanted because it was the job that IS, not what could be!
The above badge is interesting. I never thought of dreaming as meditation. Now if I can just get back to dreaming instead of ruminating, life would be good.
I always have trouble at jobs if I'm asked to do things that I think take advantage of people but are just a normal part of the job. Like I worked for a luxury cosmetic brand at a department store and we were always supposed to get people to come over for free demos and events but the whole purpose was to put pressure on them to buy and open credit cards to encourage a higher sale. I was a big under performer on average sale and credit accounts because I refused to pressure people. So I know what you mean by that. I saw that as a job to show people how to pamper themselves and feel good but that's not what the job really was. They sold it to me as all about servicing the client, but it was simply sales at all cost.
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Yup. I took a job at a gym as a trainer and it was the same thing. Thought I could help people, they just wanted to sell people. Learned never to take a sales job.5
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@anglyn1 because of my background I buy into the validity of personality tests but not the brain shape stuff really. It sounds like you have some awesome doctors working with you.0
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That was so fun and interesting! Thanks for sharing! I'm ENFP...the "Campaigner." Seems right!
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@Sunny_Bunny_
I've been trying to message you all dang day and I keep getting an error!! Frustrating.
I'm so sorry to hear you went through a bad experience. I too have had some ups and downs in a few groups over in FB land. So curiosity kills the cat! Send me a pm if you can!2 -
That was so fun and interesting! Thanks for sharing! I'm ENFP...the "Campaigner." Seems right!
You're in "good" company.
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That was so fun and interesting! Thanks for sharing! I'm ENFP...the "Campaigner." Seems right!
You're in "good" company.
@SuperCarLori
"Good" is relative.2 -
https://www.16personalities.com/enfp-personality ENFP-T Campaigner. Huh. I'm not sure.2
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