Who we are and why we do the things we do
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Ha! I don't know... see what insight the test provides
@Sunny_Bunny_
So I took it as the "ideal me," as in who I strive to and aspire to be in all situations. That came out as ENFJ-A.
Then, I took it as the "real me," how I end up being in a situation, no matter how I try to be. That came out ISFP-T...
The only consistency was the Feeling part...74% feeling on the ideal me, 68% on the "real" me...
Going to go look at the rest of my results.
What does that say? That I'm nowhere near what I want to be? Or my idealized version is so different from my true spirit? That something is holding me back?? I don't know, maybe it's just my normal split personality self... *sigh*
I'd say, embrace the real you! Sounds like great qualities to me!
So, embrace the crazy chaotic person who can't make a to-do list or complete one; who feels off her rocker without a plan, yet can never quite pull one off; who goes back and forth between military type precision and utter chaos with more ease than people change socks or underwear? I could go on...but the funny part is that the traits that are probably most central to the ME-me....those are the ones I always aspire to change... So it's either "suck it up buttercup" or "get off your butt and change it?"
The idea is to understand yourself well enough to best utilize/direct your natural tendencies. For instance, one of the weaknesses listed for me is:
"Defiant – ESTPs won’t be boxed in. Repetition, hardline rules, sitting quietly while they are lectured at – this isn’t how ESTPs live their lives. They are action-oriented and hands-on. Environments like school and much entry-level work can be so tedious that they’re intolerable, requiring extraordinary effort from ESTPs to stay focused long enough to get to freer positions."
This defiance is why I fired my doctors when they were flat out wrong about the causes of my elevated BG (no longer referring to it as T2 or pre-diabetes since I view it as temporary condition - probably another sign of my defiance). It has led me down the path of finding the right doc and the actual causes and making the changes that are already having a positive impact for my health.
I have learned to use this "weakness" in conjunction with 2 of my "strengths":
"Rational and Practical – ESTPs love knowledge and philosophy, but not for their own sake. What’s fun for ESTP personalities is finding ideas that are actionable and drilling into the details so they can put them to use. If a discussion is completely arbitrary, there are better uses for ESTPs’ time.
Original – Combining their boldness and practicality, ESTPs love to experiment with new ideas and solutions. They put things together in ways no one else would think to."
I would disagree that the items listed are necessarily "strengths" or "weaknesses" as they are only tendencies. How you allow them to manifest will determine if they are a strengths or weaknesses. Look at each one tendency and see how you can best utilize it. Or maybe I'm just being defiant again.
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MEDIATOR PERSONALITY (INFP, -A/-T), That personality profile describes me completely so crazy! Thank you for sharing!1
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I thought I posted mine but I guess not lol
Definition according to wiki:
ESFPs live in the moment, experiencing life to the fullest. They enjoy people, as well as material comforts. Rarely allowing conventions to interfere with their lives, they find creative ways to meet human needs. ESFPs are excellent team players, focused on completing the task at hand with maximum fun and minimum discord. Active types, they find pleasure in new experiences.
ESFPs take a hands-on approach in most things. Because they learn more by doing than by studying or reading, they tend to rush into things, learning by interacting with their environment. They usually dislike theory and written explanations. Traditional schools can be difficult for ESFPs, although they tend to do well when the subject of study interests them, or when they see the relevance of a subject and are allowed to interact with people.
Observant, practical, realistic, and specific, ESFPs make decisions according to their own personal standards. They use their Feeling judgment internally to identify and empathize with others. Naturally attentive to the world around them, ESFPs are keen observers of human behavior. They quickly sense what is happening with other people and immediately respond to their individual needs. They are especially good at mobilizing people to deal with crises. Generous, optimistic, and persuasive, they are good at interpersonal interactions. They often play the role of peacemaker due to their warm, sympathetic, and tactful nature.
Living in the here-and-now, they often do not think about long-term effects or the consequences of their actions. While very practical, they generally despise routines, instead desiring to 'go with the flow.' They are, in fact, very play minded. Because ESFPs learn better through hands-on experience, classroom learning may be troublesome for many of them, especially those with a very underdeveloped intuitive side.[4]
Sounds a lot like me although I've grown into a more peacemaker as I've gotten older, I used to be very arguntative when i was younger, i liked to play devil's advocate and refused to see things in black and white. I still believe life is a series of grays but I learned to LIVE and LET LIVE lol1 -
cstehansen wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »So what on earth does it say about me that I always have two, usually opposite responses to each question? The optimal - what I try to do ME - and the reality, how it all plays out me???
Ha! I don't know... see what insight the test provides
@Sunny_Bunny_
So I took it as the "ideal me," as in who I strive to and aspire to be in all situations. That came out as ENFJ-A.
Then, I took it as the "real me," how I end up being in a situation, no matter how I try to be. That came out ISFP-T...
The only consistency was the Feeling part...74% feeling on the ideal me, 68% on the "real" me...
Going to go look at the rest of my results.
What does that say? That I'm nowhere near what I want to be? Or my idealized version is so different from my true spirit? That something is holding me back?? I don't know, maybe it's just my normal split personality self... *sigh*
I'd say, embrace the real you! Sounds like great qualities to me!
So, embrace the crazy chaotic person who can't make a to-do list or complete one; who feels off her rocker without a plan, yet can never quite pull one off; who goes back and forth between military type precision and utter chaos with more ease than people change socks or underwear? I could go on...but the funny part is that the traits that are probably most central to the ME-me....those are the ones I always aspire to change... So it's either "suck it up buttercup" or "get off your butt and change it?"
The idea is to understand yourself well enough to best utilize/direct your natural tendencies. For instance, one of the weaknesses listed for me is:
"Defiant – ESTPs won’t be boxed in. Repetition, hardline rules, sitting quietly while they are lectured at – this isn’t how ESTPs live their lives. They are action-oriented and hands-on. Environments like school and much entry-level work can be so tedious that they’re intolerable, requiring extraordinary effort from ESTPs to stay focused long enough to get to freer positions."
This defiance is why I fired my doctors when they were flat out wrong about the causes of my elevated BG (no longer referring to it as T2 or pre-diabetes since I view it as temporary condition - probably another sign of my defiance). It has led me down the path of finding the right doc and the actual causes and making the changes that are already having a positive impact for my health.
I have learned to use this "weakness" in conjunction with 2 of my "strengths":
"Rational and Practical – ESTPs love knowledge and philosophy, but not for their own sake. What’s fun for ESTP personalities is finding ideas that are actionable and drilling into the details so they can put them to use. If a discussion is completely arbitrary, there are better uses for ESTPs’ time.
Original – Combining their boldness and practicality, ESTPs love to experiment with new ideas and solutions. They put things together in ways no one else would think to."
I would disagree that the items listed are necessarily "strengths" or "weaknesses" as they are only tendencies. How you allow them to manifest will determine if they are a strengths or weaknesses. Look at each one tendency and see how you can best utilize it. Or maybe I'm just being defiant again.
@cstehansen - I was more comparing the dichotomy between the me I attempt to be and the me I nearly always end up being...more so than either thing being good or bad, etc. I know that every tendency or perspective can always be used to advantage or not, but it's more things like when I don't have order and structure, my life is stressful, but when I attempt to force order and structure upon myself, I get full on teenaged rebellion against myself... Like I said, I'll work on a compare and contrast...just so I can better understand it. I imagine there will be more things in common in each category that it first appears...
That being said, I always hate these kind of tests. It's never yes or no or varying degrees even, it's all about missing context. It's like, if it is A, B, or C - then it's a level of agreement, but if it is X, Y, or Z, it's ah he!L naw! I am never just one perspective on hardly anything. I bet if I compared my answers, I'd say less than 10% answers were the same. So if I take the test for my "goals" "aims" or "tries" the answer is always different than where I end up... nearly ALWAYS...1 -
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This is me!
Although my husband is an extreme extrovert- so we compromise. One weekend night we socialize and the other is quiet.
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So there are 2 of us in this group. It said this was a rare type - only 4% of people. I am guessing the non-conformity aspect would push more of us to a less conventional WOE maybe.
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I have taken the Myers Briggs a number of times for work, etc. I took this again to get ISFJ - A. I don't think the "identity" scale was in previous assessments I have done. I did not remember that letter anyway.1
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I was in one of the really large Keto facebook groups. One chick posted a recipe for something almond flour, muffins or cake or something saying it was zero carb. I pointed out that it was actually 9g carb per serving and she said minus the fibre etc it was actually -2g carbs. I pointed out that was not in fact correct, and the fibre had already been minused, making it ... yes ... 9g carbs per serve. She got abusive, some other people joined in and bam, I was kicked out of the group. Nothing in any of my comments were rude or nasty, just simply pointing out the calculations. It was such a small thing but people get so nasty. The internet is like a drug, it removes people's filters and they act in a way that I'm pretty sure they wouldn't in real life.4
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cstehansen wrote: »
So there are 2 of us in this group. It said this was a rare type - only 4% of people. I am guessing the non-conformity aspect would push more of us to a less conventional WOE maybe.
Yep, I just read the whole profile (distracted mind not getting much work done is it?) and it was spot on. More so than strengths finders, which was pretty accurate as well. Also in management (one of the youngest managers in any company I have worked in). Guess we don't like the data entry.1 -
I'm a ENFJ-T
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Love that test, it gets people so well. I always get ESFP and that is definitely me!! Basically the person who always wants to know where the party is haha
I see @genmon00 is an ESFP as well
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@anglyn1 From the things you have shared here, you and I have very similar ideas about how and when to put ourselves in the limelight (never). Even here, it's difficult for me to post contrarian things. I got INFJ-T result, but don't feel that it quite fits me.
There is one phrase that has stuck in my mind since I heard it... "Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?" I choose happy most of the time, but if the "wrong" is going to hurt people, I can be "right"! lol4 -
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@Sunny_Bunny_ I'm sorry you had to deal with that ... crap. But thank you for the quiz. I've never done one of those and it was fun. And pretty spot on.
https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-strengths-and-weaknesses
I'm the defender. ISFJ
Strengths
Supportive - Maybe this is why I go out into the main forum to point people over here.
Reliable and Patient
Imaginative and Observant
Enthusiastic
Loyal and Hard-Working
Good Practical Skills
Defender (ISFJ) weaknesses
Humble and Shy
Take Things Too Personally
Repress Their Feelings
Overload Themselves
Reluctant to Change
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@KnitOrMiss I think we all have an ideal in mind. And for me in younger years The test said I was borderline Extravert/Introvert and borderline J and P. As I have aged, more introvert and although I still like things settled, I see things in shades of gray. Always a strong sense of justice but would rather have peace than be seen as right, except in the defense of others. I would like to be more extraverted and I try hard to do that. And exploring all options or settling on a course of action quickly? I think I was taught not to jump to conclusions through my work, so I thought that trusting my gut wasn't the right way of doing things. How much was that me hearing that my way wasn't right so I now tell myself that and how much is really me? I don't know any more. It is all part of me now.
Your description caused a smile for me because I drive my DH mad with lists. Oh I'll make one gladly and feel much better for putting it on paper rather than in my head. But most of the time, I have a different list in my head and quietly follow that one. For an organizer sort, it drives him mad. When it really matters, I put it in gear and get her done with great efficiency but if I don't perceive a need, I follow my own course no matter what I set down on paper with him. It probably looks contrary or scattered from the outside!
For a touchstone, I go back to my junior kindergarten report card. After 6 weeks, she got me. "Works diligently independently but plays well with others. Takes a leading role when necessary. Needs to be encouraged to speak up. Has difficulty knowing left from right but well ahead in other skills. Has trouble with her outer clothing and needs to slow down when dressing". It hasn't changed at all really. But it has got messier with a more complex life, social niceties and trying to keep the peace amongst so many. The dressing hasn't changed. I wish I appeared more organized, I wish I spoke up more, and maybe I won't have surprised so many when my brains showed.
I think you are lady of many parts and really interesting because of it. It is all you even if it seems contrary.
As I suspected: Mediator INFP-T here. Younger I was always a INFJ but the new one feels right now. Fundamentals the same but complex lives and many parts to each of us.2 -
I did this quite a few years ago and don't remember the results.... I'll do it again when I'm back at my desktop and not on my tablet at work.0
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canadjineh wrote: »I did this quite a few years ago and don't remember the results.... I'll do it again when I'm back at my desktop and not on my tablet at work.
You'll be NSFW, betcha.2 -
CoffeeNBooze wrote: »Love that test, it gets people so well. I always get ESFP and that is definitely me!! Basically the person who always wants to know where the party is haha
I see @genmon00 is an ESFP as well
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Not sure how to share the link, but OBVIOUSLY I'm a Campainer. Did I spell that right? Makes too much sense.2
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SuperCarLori wrote: »Not sure how to share the link, but OBVIOUSLY I'm a Campainer. Did I spell that right? Makes too much sense.
We're twins!
ENFP: "Most likely to wear brown socks with black suit."3 -
SuperCarLori wrote: »Not sure how to share the link, but OBVIOUSLY I'm a Campainer. Did I spell that right? Makes too much sense.
We're twins!
ENFP: "Most likely to wear brown socks with black suit."
Except for me, when I might be joining you in your socks because I dressed too fast. But I do not like standing out at all.2 -
dasher602014 wrote: »SuperCarLori wrote: »Not sure how to share the link, but OBVIOUSLY I'm a Campainer. Did I spell that right? Makes too much sense.
We're twins!
ENFP: "Most likely to wear brown socks with black suit."
Except for me, when I might be joining you in your socks because I dressed too fast. But I do not like standing out at all.
You must keep that smile of yours under wraps!2 -
The funny/interesting thing for me is that I took the Meyers-Briggs which this looks like it's based off of in college psych and I scored very differently than I do today. I believe I was ISFJ. I think 16 years of real life has changed me a bit. 4
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baconslave wrote: »The funny/interesting thing for me is that I took the Meyers-Briggs which this looks like it's based off of in college psych and I scored very differently than I do today. I believe I was ISFJ. I think 16 years of real life has changed me a bit.
In theory, it is not supposed to change, but mine has (and so have I) since I first took it in the 80's. Life has a tendency to round off the edges and character/outlook are not fixed.
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SuperCarLori wrote: »Not sure how to share the link, but OBVIOUSLY I'm a Campainer. Did I spell that right? Makes too much sense.
We're twins!
ENFP: "Most likely to wear brown socks with black suit."
I KNEW IT!
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Yup, square pegs in round holes. My mother used to say that was the unfortunate job of a parent. To help with the "rounding".5
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