Runners that need some nutritional accountability
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@shanaber I would have eaten half of that cake yesterday!
I had a 21 mile run yesterday with a 2500 calorie burn (and only one gel consumed during the run) so I didn't bother logging. I find when I log on days with a big run I eat beyond satisfying my hunger, just because I can. So yesterday I ate until I was full and that was it. It was a beautiful day so I grilled burgers. I normally skip the bun but not yesterday. Two bacon blue cheese burgers... Mmmmm-mmmm with my home cured bacon. In retrospect I should have topped it with a fried egg.
I'm logging today. Planning for a 10 mile run this afternoon but I'm not going to eat like it until after the run.
Prepping for my lunches I have three containers of the chicken biryani in the freezer (no one likes it but me, apparently) and will have chicken sausage and hard boiled eggs the other two days.2 -
Dh and I have a birthday coming up. I tried to tell him I needed cake. He said it’s not your birthday yet... more beans, sausage and chicken today... and he complained when I farted. He made it. Oh well, I’ll settle for a few halo oranges as a sweet snack.
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Minor crisis.
The batteries in my scale leaked, and I have no replacements. I’ve had to stop myself twice from weighing. I really feel like all this inactivity and eating anything is going to be a shocker if I don’t keep up on it.
I’m ready to go to the pool today. I ache, I don’t wanna get out, I have hw to do, and class tonight. Dd might still wanna go to enroll. But if I bait myself with some batteries, I just might go pool walk.
Today’s food? Narcotics, coffee... um..I need a plan. Any ideas what a gimpy crybaby person can fix?1 -
@elise4270 - did you hear back from the doctor on the pool? I think it would feel amazing and will help the achiness maybe?
Remember you need to eat to heal - ortho and nutritionist made that very clear to me for my foot and it was no where near as big a healing process as what you are going through. I wouldn't worry too much about the eating right now if you are eating pretty healthy and not just chips and cookies...
I am having oatmeal with some tart cherries and walnuts. It has become my go to breakfast for run days. No clue what lunch will be but I am making chicken taco bowls in the IP for dinner. We have agility this afternoon so DH will have it to eat early if he wants. They move the class to 4:30 so it conflicts with fixing dinner but if it is all made before I go we should be good.1 -
I’m up 3 cuties... why am I so helpless when it comes to food? Haha! I spent the day catching up on homework, now I need to find grub. No word back on the doc yet, but I’m sure it’s absolutely healed and fine. So, the pool schedule fits my schedule tomorrow- hope I’ll go.
Suppose I can go cook some eggs. Share them with baby monster, that only wants people food. Leg is doing good today. It almost feels about where I was on a cranky day presurgery.0 -
Well I think I’m doing well enough to plan some foods and start watching what I eat. I took my kid like chewy vitamins, drinking a protein shake, and found a package of broccoli for later. I also have some fresh spinach I can put in some eggs. Dh said we had chicken, maybe it’s outside. If I find it, I’ll make a soup.
I’m spending the day studying. When I was out I missed an exam, so I better get on it since I make it up tomorrow. I some how have the reputation as the “smart kid”. What they don’t understand is that I’m twice their ages, and just know more from dumb luck exposure. Well, I gotta maintain the illusion- so I’ll study.
Back to watching my macros and trying to do better.
What’s on your plate today?1 -
I discovered something I really like yesterday. I picked up a package of FlatOut wrap thingies and made a veggie wrap with avocado and some sliced turkey. It was delicious and the wrap had 7gms of protein and 22gms of carbs, 10 of which were fiber. I kind of discovered them in the deli section of our grocery store while waiting to have said turkey sliced. Wish I had found them sooner. Tomorrow I think I will make one with eggs and spinach and other veggies for breakfast after I run.
DH is leaving tomorrow for a week so I will be on my own to cook and eat what I want to. Kind of looking forward to it too as he seems to always want to eat the same thing or order out.1 -
I had too much late night snacking last night. So much so that I wasn't even hungry for breakfast so instead of my usual 400 calories of scrambled eggs with veggies and cheese, I had an english muffin with peanut butter and orange/mango preserves for 250 calories instead.
Leftover biryani for lunch.
I have pheasant thawing out but probably won't have time to use it for supper tonight. I'm thinking maybe a pheasant noodle soup for that, even though we're getting out of soup weather.
I have an 8 mile trail run tonight but I'm not going to eat ahead of the burn. A post-run beer is assured.1 -
I just read @shanaber 's post about Flat Out wraps...an egg wrap sounds fantastic! I'll be making that tonight after my run with scrambled eggs, onions, spinach, chicken, and some Thai peanut sauce I made out of PB2 (much lower calories than peanut butter). I'm not sure how the peanut sauce and the eggs will taste together but I'm willing find out.
And you've reminded me that we have avocados at home so maybe some avocado toast too.1 -
Thought i had a win today. Ate broccoli mixed with my left over taco and rice. Dh brought home a burger from red robin. My belly is overly full of shame.
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Hi Elise 4270.
Haven’t logged in for what 4-5 months I think.
Managed to drop inches very little weight. But feeling better about it since got good results.
Yet I too have been binging 3 chocolates a day twice a week. Ohh craved sugar.
Mind you I have been hitting the pool these past 2 month and it’s made a difference. 5 days a week 2-3 hours and hiking on the weekends 13km. So yes dropped inches an done weight.
But love it since it’s a dress size.
Don’t worry don’t feel guilty. Enjoy every minute if you cheat. It will help get it out of your system and try again.
I’ve been living and enjoying it and shaping.
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Oh my goodness no way I’ll catch up on posts now. Over a thousand posts.0
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I just read @shanaber 's post about Flat Out wraps...an egg wrap sounds fantastic! I'll be making that tonight after my run with scrambled eggs, onions, spinach, chicken, and some Thai peanut sauce I made out of PB2 (much lower calories than peanut butter). I'm not sure how the peanut sauce and the eggs will taste together but I'm willing find out.
And you've reminded me that we have avocados at home so maybe some avocado toast too.
My wraps were a success but I didn't make them as planned. We had leftover chicken breast, wrapped in prosciutto with a lemon butter sauce which I diced and sauteed with bacon grease, diced onions, and capers, then added blue cheese and four eggs. Once that was done I put it in a wrap with shredded parmesan cheese. It was very nice, and very filling.
I forgot all about the avocados.
Today I'm eating the last of my chicken biryani for lunch, along with carrots and hummus. I have just a 5 mile run tonight so I wont' have too many extra calories to eat back. I have no idea what I'll have for supper. I should find something to do with the pheasant I have thawed out.
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I made a chicken leftovers soup with yellow squash, spinach, a handful of pinto beans and carrots. Then i dropped a raw egg in it to make the broth rich. I then fished out a yolk for the baby monster, it was a hit with a few bits of chicken. His nickname is "yolkie" bear. We mostly call him Beary. I think yolks are his favorite food.
Dd applied to school. We looked at the course schedule for summer. She can enroll april 8th. Fingers crossed!2 -
I think I’m going to put some beans in the ip. Dh made some last night to take to lodge last night and they smelled pretty good. I might hide the chicken and veggies I made yesterday in them so it won’t go to waste and add a sausage thing for flavor. Maybe I’ll make some rice to go with them... mmmm!
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I went to breakfast with a friend this morning and haven't felt well all afternoon/evening. Not sure how I made it through strength training but hitting the bathroom immediately before and after helped. I had chicken noodle soup and crackers for dinner and a little bit of Ben and Jerry's. So far my stomach is calming down and I feel ok. I am thinking maybe a bit of food poisoning but who gets that from scrambled eggs and bacon??2
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Just saw this thread. I think I'll join in. I am trying to lose about 20 more pounds. I need to figure out how to eat healthier and still fuel my new-ish running habit. I'm also trying to keep my sodium intake fairly low to hopefully help keep my blood pressure at a reasonable level since that is what the doctor's say is the best thing I can do "for" the aneurysm. Today I had my normal breakfast of an egg, one piece of toast, and a slice of cheddar cheese. Had a spoon of peanut butter for a snack. Dinner was baked chicken, baked cubed potatoes, and mixed steamed veggies all using Mrs. Dash instead of salt.0
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Welcome @quilteryoyo! How will you handle the low salt when you are running, especially when the temps go up? I know I need more salt because otherwise I get muscle cramps. The nutritionist also got on me for trying to be too low salt. I also don't have a BP issue so I know it is a totally different situation.
For once after a long run I was actually hungry today and downed 2 tangerines pretty much as soon as I got home. Made myself a huge smoothy after my shower with berries, kale, spinach, protein powder, PB and Greek yogurt. Then ate my leftover 1/2 biscuit from breakfast the other day... mmmm.... need to think about dinner in a little while but right now I am pleasantly full!0 -
@shanaber I was actually thinking about that. I may need to up my sodium intake on hot run days. I don't think that would hurt anything. If I can lose a few more pounds, that will help with the issue. I may ask my doctor about this at my next appointment.0
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I gotta say March has sucked for me as far as weight loss. Holding exactly even despite logging every day, being under calories, and set to a theoretical 250 cal / day deficit. It seems like MFP is giving me such wildly overinflated burns for my runs that I can’t rely on it at all.1
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@rheddmobile Sorry you had that kind of month. It's frustrating. Hang in there. It'll come off eventually. I have seen on here that some people only eat back about half of their exercise calories, since it is all just a guesstimate. That may help.0
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Anyone see any of the research on gut micros being (at least partly), responsible for weight?
Exapmle. I saw a show where a woman had a c.diff. overgrowth and had a fecal transplant from her daughter. I mean, whos to say why the woman really gained weight, but they theory is she gained because the bacteria from her overweight daughters donation. Said after 4 generations of overweight parents, your chance of being overweight was significant and your gut microbes can't be changed easily.
This reminded me of Fitzgerald's "slimming foods and non-slimming foods" guide. Any thoughts?
Be awesome one day to help with weight loss (and prevent all the nasty ailments that accompany it), if one could eat certain foods and have a bacterial transplant.1 -
@quilteryoyo - maybe having something with electrolytes when you run and it is hot? I would definitely ask your doctor though about what is best.
@rheddmobile - have you considered just setting a reasonable calorie goal and ignoring the MFP or Garmin generated caloric burn? For example I know for me 1500 on a rest day and 1900-2000 on a short run/strength day works well. I ignore whatever MFP gives me (some people set the exercise calories to 0) and just try to hit those goals.
@elise4270 - I have heard about the importance of gut bacteria but I have not heard about it being responsible for weight. I do think that 4 generations of overweight parents may have a lot to do with eating and exercise habits. The kids eat and exercise how they have grown up. That said I think there are definitely genetic predispositions toward being heavier or lighter that can be difficult on either end to overcome.2 -
Yes. @shanaber, I agree that its lifestyle. But it is interesting that theres some science behind how those choices effect us genetically (an example of epigenetics- documented in rats. Fat father rat begets daughter rat that is likely to be overweight. Horrible how these genetic changes piggyback on the female gene.). So it's all very interesting to me how intertwined weight/health and food choices are.
I worked with a guy that ran. He was convinced he could eat anything as long as he ran. Maybe in his case. But I'm inclined to think that catches up with you. Diet quality is also key.
Just "food" for thought today. Dh wont let me debate with him anymore. So I'm stimulating your neurons. You guys think its overreaching? Or see evidence of it in your families?
None of my family is or was overweight. But my daughter's fathers side is. (All kids have same dad- just playing on the father/daughter rat study. I was married to a rat 😳😜). Dd is is overweight, doesnt exercise, but is in her room 26 hours a day. So genetics or self choice? Maybe both. Its all curious to me. How much of us is just written in to our genetic code? Seems more than we ever imagined.0 -
I find genetics fascinating as well. Then I wonder too, what it looks like in people who are adopted. Do they gain or not based on their adoptive family or does their genetics win out? Back to that entire nature vs nurture discussion...
In my own case my mom and her family were very active (surfing, skiing, tennis, etc.) and no one was overweight (Grandpa was director of physical education). My mom never weighed more than 110-115lbs and was 5'5" tall (skinny!). My dad's family not so much but they were not particularly overweight until later in life. My brother is tall and skinny too and can literally eat anything and everything and doesn't gain. I am more like my dad's side for sure. Very short, barely 5' and fighting weight my entire life even though we were very active as kids. Always outside all year round, biking, swimming, skiing and playing team sports.
DH was never overweight (until the last 10 years) but was never skinny either even though his entire family was despite none of them being particularly active. He really doesn't look like any of them based on build (he is bigger with bigger shoulders, etc. where his brother is pretty slight) but he favors his dad's family.
DD has also been active since she was small (swimming, running, water polo, etc.). The only time she was really overweight was when she didn't have time to be active much in med school and her 1st year residency. Now that she has fit working out into her schedule she dropped all the weight she gained so I think that was more life style but maybe with the predisposition to be heavier? Or it was just continuing to eat as if she were still active...
I do think social media, video games, etc. have a direct effect on kids (and some parents too) being overweight. If they don't move and mindlessly eat they are going to gain, no matter how good their diet is.
ETA - I agree about the runner that thinks he can just eat anything no matter the quality. He may not gain weight but it doesn't mean that it won't catch up to him or still cause problems like heart disease.2 -
You know there's also a theory about how we haven't genetically adaped to our current lifestyles. Our genetics still think we hunt, forrage and raise our food. The DNA doesnt know (yet), that food is plentiful, no reason to store an abundance. Just a trip to the store- an abundance of calories! That DNA never got snipped because of the intervention of modern medicine. We live longer with vaccinations and medical care, and education. Ooh, and because of that- we are evolving faster than ever! Uh, evolving/adapting... Not taking sides on the means in which we've come to be. Only how adaptive our awesome bodies are.
Our genetics took how long to make sure we didn't die of starvation? It worked pretty well. How odd it be if our bodies said, "nope. We're good. You can pass on that cake" and we had no desire to eat it! Whaaa? Nah!
(Im still on a cake hunt.. dh has yet to come through). Haha! "Hunt"! definitely, tracking that cake down!1 -
Ha! I think I have the foraging down pretty well... I go foraging through the fridge looking for 'something'!! Unfortunately it isn't much of a caloric expenditure the way I have to forage vs 100s of years ago!
Hey maybe when we are running our bodies, cells, mitochondria, whatever, 'think' we are hunting and chasing down the food and that is why we are so hungry afterwards. Gotta eat whatever it was we were chasing!4 -
I’ve only had coffee so far today. No food plans yet. I did put a scoop of hot chocolate in my coffee today. I may fix some eggs with cheese in a bit.
What’s on the menu today?
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@Elise4270 Just had my usual breakfast - one piece of toast, a fried egg, some cheese, and 4 cups of coffee. Since I'm not working today, I'll probably have a couple of snacks - walnuts or peanut butter, and then cook dinner around 4...thinking about a baked pork chop, baked cubed potatoes, and some steamed veggies.1
