Runners that need some nutritional accountability

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  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Dh is tilliing a spot for a garden today. Ideas to put in it?

    I said easy crap I don't have to tend. I'm still behind on the flower beds.

    Okra (no one wants it, bit it'll grow all summer long and never complain).
    Corn gets wormy
    Squash gets buggie
    Tomatoes- just a pain
    Carrots? Oh ya, easy
    Radishes- perhaps
    Peppers? Think those can be left to be?
    Watermellons!

    We're shopping later for plants... I have no time... I need to study. *Sigh*.

    I’ll take your okra! Love it roasted with a minimum of oil, salt and seasoning - it crisps right up and makes a good snack. Also, gumbo! Can you do corn where you are?

    Every year I keep intending to garden, then every year I remember I have no sunlight and sandy soil, plus I hate gardening. I do have roses, though, I planted them the year we got married, when I didn’t know anything about roses, and they are seemingly unkillable despite being in almost full shade at the roots of juniper trees, in low lying ground which frequently has standing water. Last fall the tree trimmers for the utility company came by and literally mowed them to the ground for no good reason, and they are back again this year. I was worried it would be just the wild grafted stock, but no, they are still the same roses. Covered in aphids though, which I need to do something about.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    I don't try to eat healthy on trips but I do try to minimize the damage.

    I'm planning on plenty of beer, wine and food in Oregon next week.

    Tonight I scrambled a couple of eggs with onions and peppers, steamed a pound of asparagus and am about to have some avocado toast. I may have to eat a tin of tuna as well for protein

    Ooh, I need to get some asparagus for Easter. Our traditional Easter breakfast is strawberrry sandwiches (goat cheese with sliced strawberries on dark pumpernickel) and poached eggs with asparagus.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2019
    @rheddmobile that breakfast sounds so good! I like okra. Just seems everyone else is not keen on it. I like the idea of roasting it! We can definitely do corn, we’ve just never had any luck with it. It gets wormy and I leave it to the crows. Which I love my crows and asked dh to pant it just for them... maybe I’ll just pant some away from the garden where I throw them left overs. Everything that grows in my yard needs little care or it’ll die. I just can’t seem to baby anything alive. The cold seemed to have gotten a few of our maple trees this year. My roses do get sprayed in spring for black spots, neem oil (until the sun get to scorching). They aren’t special.

    @quilteryoyo about half way through the growing season, squash bugs take over. Of course this’ll be the first garden since we’ve moved. Perhaps it’ll be better. We have some little snakes and salamanders, and lady bugs hopefully they’ll help out

    I think he got:
    Cucumbers
    Basil
    Tomato’s
    Onions
    Couldn’t find okra, but will get
    Squash
    Cilantro
    Probably other stuff as I don’t really listen and was more interested in if he brought home a quick lunch. Nope.

    Still no studying done...

    ETA I like the lettuce idea too!
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    I was going to suggest banana peppers! I grew and pickled them in the fridge one year and they are so good! I also grew jalapeños and they were delicious too!
    I like to grow beans and peas (sugar snap) too, if you have something for them to wind around and climb up. They don't seem to get bugs and require very little care other than water and something to climb up.

    @rheddmobile - I get a container or two of lady bugs for my roses and sprinkle them around on them. No more issues with aphids or the little flies.
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,450 Member
    I'm wondering, do you take a vitamin to supplement your diet? I haven't in a couple of years because I was diagnosed with hypercalcemia and my doctor told me to stop taking a calcium supplement. My multivitamin contained calcium, so I just stopped. Now that I'm exercising more, I feel it is more important now than ever to get all of the vitamins and minerals my body needs. I tend to not eat a balanced diet (I'm a meat and potatoes kind of gal), so that is something I need to work on. Any ideas would be appreciated.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2019
    I'm wondering, do you take a vitamin to supplement your diet? I haven't in a couple of years because I was diagnosed with hypercalcemia and my doctor told me to stop taking a calcium supplement. My multivitamin contained calcium, so I just stopped. Now that I'm exercising more, I feel it is more important now than ever to get all of the vitamins and minerals my body needs. I tend to not eat a balanced diet (I'm a meat and potatoes kind of gal), so that is something I need to work on. Any ideas would be appreciated.

    That is one of those topics that recient opinion has swayed. When I was a kid, we took them and it was the norm. Today “it’s just expensive urine”, if you eat right and have no health reasons to supplement, there’s no need.

    I still take vitamins because I can tell a difference. I’ve also done some DNA testing and it supports me taking them because I have a diminished ability to methlyate (active form of some compound critter),vitamin b (in particular). I’d still be taking them even if I didn’t know my gentics had betrayed be a bit. I can tell a difference.

    I had one doc check my D level because he felt it could be cause for chronic pain. I think he also had then known I’d need bone surgery. I supplement that too. It’s not low, but needs to be higher. Since I had nerve surgery (2016), I supplement methylated B 12, fish oil, and acetyl-l-carnitine and alpha lipoic acid. When I am running, my body appreciates the magnesium supplement. And of course, being female I watch my iron and supplement it if needed. 3-5 periods a year and you can just about toss that iron. I’m a huge fan of vitamin C. Huge! I do not take them daily, probably 2-3 days a weeks, maybe 5 but then I forget the next week.

    Sum of my advice is if you want to take them, find one that is balanced and not over the RDA. Follow up with your doc if need be.
  • simcon1
    simcon1 Posts: 209 Member
    edited April 2019
    I have been lurking away on this thread and appreciating all of the conversations! But the gardening one sucked me right in :) Probably because I’ve been absolutely neglecting mine.. my favorite things to plant are the low-care high productivity things. So kale & chard, cherry tomatoes, green beans (bush have worked better for me than runners), and cucumbers. And jalapeños. Basil for pesto. In other climates (ones where the summer is actually hot), zucchini and regular tomatoes have worked well. Lettuce I go hot & cold on because while I like to have it growing because it spoils in the fridge faster than other things, I get annoyed when it gets bitter, and tend not to replant regularly enough... We also have parsley, perennial rosemary, raspberries, and plum trees that produce 100+ lbs of plums a year in good years. I keep trying to start rhubarb and failing at it for some reason. Our house is on a little city plot and we rent from a (good) friend.

    Mostly my goal is to be able to go outside and find some edible vegetables about 4-6 months of the year without thinking too hard about it or needing to go to the store. We also have 4 chickens who are now producing just under 2 dozen eggs/week, and get “Imperfect Produce” and milk delivered weekly. It’s a very odd take on laziness! (Particularly when we have 4-5 lovely grocery stores within a mile, including one perfectly fine one 4 blocks away where I can send my kids running to pick things up) That said, we lived in an intentional community before moving here into the city and had a huge garden, so some of my habits were formed there.
  • simcon1
    simcon1 Posts: 209 Member
    edited April 2019
    I'm wondering, do you take a vitamin to supplement your diet? I haven't in a couple of years because I was diagnosed with hypercalcemia and my doctor told me to stop taking a calcium supplement. My multivitamin contained calcium, so I just stopped. Now that I'm exercising more, I feel it is more important now than ever to get all of the vitamins and minerals my body needs. I tend to not eat a balanced diet (I'm a meat and potatoes kind of gal), so that is something I need to work on. Any ideas would be appreciated.

    I’m curious about all of the answers to this question too—I’ve been occasionally supplementing, but MFP logging has really made me aware that I am generally not near the goal for iron (I don’t eat much meat or fortified things), so I have been rotating between some multivitamins that have iron and straight up iron supplements (Garden of Life Healthy Blood), and that has seemed to make me feel more energetic. I’ve been off and on anemic for a long time—no wonder, given what I’ve been eating!
  • simcon1
    simcon1 Posts: 209 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    I hate eating on vacation (love being on vacation), it just stresses me out. In a moment of extreme hunger last night I even got angry with dh. He likes the free breakfasts at the hotel but I rarely find anything I want to eat. Yesterday they didn't even have yogurt. Then he didn't want to stop for lunch so I ate tangerines (yes I brought from home),

    Sorry for the rant - I just needed to vent!

    @shanaber Yes, vent away! I travel a lot for work and we like vacations too, and I bring quite a bit from home, and make lots of use of grocery stores. My little roller suitcase often has avocados, fruit, espresso, my small stovetop espresso machine, canned tuna, a knife, fork, and spoon, rolled oats & a mason jar for overnight oats, dehydrated cinnamon apples, walnuts, Luna bars, zip lock bags and salad dressing. It takes very little room for the ease it provides! And I pick up the little bins of lettuce or spinach, single veggies, milk, and Siggi’s at grocery stores. I also like eating out, and my work often involves social eating, but I really like not having to hunt for healthy things when we are either busy having fun or I am busy with my work (or trying to fit a run in!)
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2019
    Haha! @simcon1 I’m glad you got sucked in!

    We had chickens at our old house. Here the uh.. agreement (I can’t remember what it’s called) said no chickens so we gave them away. I love having fresh eggs. Dh has a coworker that gives us Guinea egg and sometimes chicken eggs.

    Dh planted ghost peppers, a sweet pepper, a kiwi (no idea that was a thing), and broccoli too. I love pesto so I hope the basil does well.

    ETA @shanaber I had no idea you could buy lady bugs. We mostly have the Japanese ones here that are aggressive towards the native ones. We get an influx of them in the fall and find them all winter in the house. Maybe next year I’ll collect them, instead of throwing them out, and release them in spring. I found the fattest aphid on my sand cherry yesterday.

    And
    @simcon1 your travel foods sound so good!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2019
    I’m actually studying today.. hoorah... my weight is up. Well. It was inevitable. Lay here all day only working out that struggling brain and it the rest of me is going to get jealous and store up, waiting for it’s turn. It doesn’t help that I just wanna wallowing pie and Cheetos. That’s just stress. I can resist.

    No idea what’s on the menu today. Dh went for a run. He has a half next weekend. He’s kinda beating himself up over it and thinks he’ll struggle. Eh, i doubt it. I think he’s just getting to where he understands the importance of training, he’ll be fine.


    What are you eating today?

    Our plum and pear tree has fruit on it already. So does this peach we have, but it’s ornamental so it’s not eat-able, (Johnny Depp’s- wonka).

    ETA so tired of spell correct second guessing me...
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,450 Member
    Thanks for your comments re diet supplements. I do take a Vitamin C every day and was prescribed to take Vitamin D. Nothing else at the moment though. Before I went through "the change" I got anemic all of the time. It was so bad that I have been known to fall asleep in a meeting with my boss when it was just he and I in the room!!! No hiding that! LOL
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,450 Member
    I made homemade chicken stir fry tonight. It was pretty good. At least I got some vegetables in there and no potatoes today. ;)
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @quilteryoyo - I take a 'few' supplements... I had some problems a while ago with having 0 energy, getting dizzy when I was running, etc. My daughter sent me to a nutritionist (friend of a friend) who ran some tests and found I was experiencing adrenal fatigue - my cortisol levels were extremely low, barely above 0). I am now eating more and better (more good carbs) but still taking my multi-vitamin, fish oil and turmeric in addition to the vitamin D my PCP has me taking. When I had the stress fracture diagnosed the nutritionist and the Orthopedist both wanted me back on calcium. I also take magnesium somewhat regularly for muscle cramps. I don't take vitamin C because I eat so much citrus and don't think I need to supplement it too. When I was traveling so much for work though I took it before and during a trip and it really seemed to help keep me from getting sick.

    Welcome @simcon1! We have a wrought iron fence that my beans and peas grow on and my daughter has a cedar and wire fence that the vines love and when they blossom - wow so beautiful. She had chickens too for a while until she move to So Seattle and started her residency - they were just too much work. The eggs were wonderful and the chickens were so funny. They all had names and would come when called.
    When I traveled for work I used to always plan to have things that I wanted to eat for breakfast or for snacks. I don't know why it is so hard for me for personal travel now. I should have just brought yogurt with me and my homemade granola. I did bring tangerines, almonds and crackers but not the cheese...

    I did better on food today and we are home late tomorrow so can get back to eating more normally. We had salads for dinner and I splurged and got onion rings - mmmmm!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @7lenny7 are you sailing soon? We sure miss you around here in the summer, such good company (and you have the best foods). Perhaps by time you come back, I’ll be on two feet again.


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    My food yesterday was “needs improvement “. Homemade pre patty burgers (dh made it so obliged), and last night at 1059pm after mass we grabbed Arby’s. I had the cold turkey and Swiss sandwich, that thing is still 700 calories.

    I did manage to eat two big carrots yesterday. If you remember, we have 5 pounds of them and no one yet has opened the bag. So,I’m making a point to have a few each day.

    Doc next week. We’ll see if it’s work out or return to work on crutches. I hope not. I’ll be miserable. Just sitting at church these last few day is so painful. I can’t imaging sitting for 9 hours at work. I slouch terribly when I’m in pain, and that makes it worse. (Add that to,list of questions for him)... I think my psoas is tight and or weak. I don’t know how to “fix” it. Ideas?

    Better run. I’m being stalked by the monster
  • simcon1
    simcon1 Posts: 209 Member
    Yesterday I was going to have a nice healthy egg scramble with lots of veggies for breakfast, but then my little guy wanted pancakes, so I made some Kodiak cakes instead, and moved the scramble plan to lunch.

    My healthy veggie-filled scramble has things like chard in it, but I decided to put some Canadian bacon in it, so did more of a peppers/onions/tomatoes, so not quite as healthy, but it was my long run day, so I wasn’t too concerned about calories. And cheddar/Colby jack instead of feta, which is my norm for the bigger veggie one. And some potatoes. Mmm.

    Then post-run, I’m generally not too hungry and was a bit lazy, so ordered in chicken shawarma, and ate less than half of it. The rest of my family was out at a Seder, so takeout for 1 is much cheaper that takeout for 4! But I also had this chocolate peanut butter brownie mug thing that I could only try on a long run day given its calorificness, so I ate that too. Yum, but I think I’d prefer a chunk of a good chocolate bar next time. Still under my calorie goal by a couple hundred.

    I had a mandarin too, but overall it was a bit of a low fruit & veggie day. The Easter bunny came today and didn’t seem to bring any chocolate, so that will reduce the temptations around here. No idea why or how the 10 y.o. still believes in the Easter bunny (and Santa), but we’re going with it until he indicates otherwise! Luckily he seems happy with stuffed animals, putty, bath bombs and fruit..
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @simcon1 Seder... Oh that reminds me of challah. Mmm.

    Since you set such a good example, I was encouraged to do better today:
    Coffee
    Thin sliced ribeye sauteed with asparagus and salt and pepper blend. (Green, white, black).
    An apple - need to bake some... Mmmm
    And a carrot as I watch dh in the garden and baby monster taunt the dogs.

    Any excuse to not study, I make make some challah. Family will love me forever if I make it.
  • simcon1
    simcon1 Posts: 209 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I made challah. I experimented and shoved apple in one, because I’ve been wanting baked apple. Homemade carbs don’t count, right?
    ubieiltghtuf.jpeg

    That looks amazing—mmm! Was it tasty?! The ribeye sounds fab too..

    I spent a good chunk of the day cleaning and organizing, so had a fairly boring breakfast and lunch—pineapple, a bagel & cream cheese for breakfast and some cottage cheese with avocado and cherry tomatoes for lunch, along with half a slice of pita.

    I cleaned out the fridge and got the kitchen very tidy so was inspired to cook a better dinner: Sri Lankan egg curry, sautéed Sri Lankan greens (mallun), and coconut sambol (a kind of condiment). And I also made some egg salad and roasted some root vegetables—yams, ube, beets & parsnips—for the week (did I mention that I cleaned out the fridge?!) I was very pleased that I used about 15 eggs—the chickens have been busy! And made some refrigerator oats for the morning, for a good Monday start.

    Now if I can just motivate to get up at 6 to run tomorrow, I’d feel very successful! I have a short work trip to Wisconsin later this week, and the half marathon in two weeks in Vancouver, so I’m dealing with a bit of anticipation stress of how to fit everything in.



  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Oh wow @Elise4270 - that looks delicious!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,450 Member
    @simcon1 All of that sounds great, but I haven't ever heard of most of it. I'm just a Tennessee farm girl. LOL I do love farm fresh eggs. Hope you managed to get out for your run this morning.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Yes! The Challah was exceptional, as always. My challah is the best I’ve ever had... brag! So good! The apple one was good too. Think next time I’m going to load it up and call it apple challah!
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @7lenny7 are you sailing soon? We sure miss you around here in the summer, such good company (and you have the best foods). Perhaps by time you come back, I’ll be on two feet again.


    ————————————-—————————————————-
    My food yesterday was “needs improvement “. Homemade pre patty burgers (dh made it so obliged), and last night at 1059pm after mass we grabbed Arby’s. I had the cold turkey and Swiss sandwich, that thing is still 700 calories.

    I did manage to eat two big carrots yesterday. If you remember, we have 5 pounds of them and no one yet has opened the bag. So,I’m making a point to have a few each day.

    Doc next week. We’ll see if it’s work out or return to work on crutches. I hope not. I’ll be miserable. Just sitting at church these last few day is so painful. I can’t imaging sitting for 9 hours at work. I slouch terribly when I’m in pain, and that makes it worse. (Add that to,list of questions for him)... I think my psoas is tight and or weak. I don’t know how to “fix” it. Ideas?

    Better run. I’m being stalked by the monster

    @Elise4270 We get our boat put in the water May 8th and will hopefully be ready for our first sail that weekend. We have to "move in" again, get the sails put on, and I have to finish the some other maintenance first though.

    I intend to stick around this summer. I haven't in the past because I didn't have time to keep up to date reading all the other posts and I felt bad posting if I wasn't going to have time to read other posts. I think I just need to give myself permission to post without being caught up with reading everything.

    With my son home and it being Easter weekend, we ate a lot and I didn't care. The highlight for me was cooking up a big batch of pheasant jalapeno poppers last night. I cooked up enough that we all got stuffed (except for my wife who is skittish about eating wild game) and had 20 left over for my son to take back to college. Jalapeno pepper, cream cheese, water chestnuts, marinated pheasant, a wrap of bacon, and drizzled with a brown sugar/butter/soy sauce/garlic salt glaze. Oh yeah....
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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2019
    Mmmm! Dang @7lenny7 those look amazing! I think it’s fine to update and not read too much or comment on the others... I know that seems a little selfish, but I have a hard time feeling like I’m just sticking my nose in someone’s business, or what if I come across wrong, I know that am “not right socially”. There of course are some here I’ve know for some time and feel more comfortable with-they tolerate me (neurotic ramble). And sometimes life’s gets busy and we do drive by posts... that’s cool too.

    We love any updates foods you wanna share, even if they are some pheasant jalapeño poppers... my address is 250... 😀
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    edited April 2019
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Mmmm! Dang @7lenny7 those look amazing! I think it’s fine to update and not read too much or comment on the others... I know that seems a little selfish, but I have a hard time feeling like I’m just sticking my nose in someone’s business, or what if I come across wrong, I know that am “not right socially”. There of course are some here I’ve know for some time and feel more comfortable with-they tolerate me (neurotic ramble). And sometimes life’s gets busy and we do drive by posts... that’s cool too.

    We love any updates foods you wanna share, even if they are some pheasant jalapeño poppers... my address is 250... 😀

    I don't know if they'd survive if I shipped them to you, but here's the recipe if you want to make your own:
    http://carpeseason.com/bacon-wrapped-jalapeno-pheasant-poppers/

    You can certainly use chicken instead of pheasant.

  • simcon1
    simcon1 Posts: 209 Member
    Those pheasant jalapeño poppers look super tasty. I don’t think I’ve ever had either pheasant or jalapeño poppers, so I’m also really curious!

    Somehow I ended up having ribeye today—hmmm, where could I have gottten that idea?

    And I’m baking some granola, so the house smells good. Mmm.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @7lenny7 - I ate a lot of game as a kid including pheasant, venison, elk, etc... There was nothing that looked as good as those poppers!!
    I agree with @Elise4270 that drive by posts. I feel guilty sometimes too but I will read over the most recent posts and maybe comment on one or two or I cherry pick one or two items to comment on or I just post my update and leave it at that.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    simcon1 wrote: »
    Those pheasant jalapeño poppers look super tasty. I don’t think I’ve ever had either pheasant or jalapeño poppers, so I’m also really curious!

    Somehow I ended up having ribeye today—hmmm, where could I have gottten that idea?

    And I’m baking some granola, so the house smells good. Mmm.

    Haha! Well, we try to influence each other for good not evil. How have you missed jalapenos? So good, unless they are to hot. I'm a weinee with hot stuff. Dh can do ghost pepper and all things spicy.

    I asked dh what he ate yesterday. He asked what I ate.;
    "Challah".
    "Just challah? "
    Ya, you told me no to spend any money"
    "You can eat".
    He felt bad and made tostadas again. I ate too much yesterday.

    If I give into Panera, it should be a salad.
    I'm off to Dallas today. Long car ride yesterday another today, I'm going to need a massage. The clocks ticking, so I better make a dent in this coffee so I can get ready. Coffee IV could be a thing for busy/tired folks on the go.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Waiting, waiting, waiting....

    What's on today's plates? I am still undecided. There's probably some great Thai around here. I may try to hunt it down..
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,450 Member
    I just had a Taco Bell taco salad after a tennis match.