Ad Libitum August '18
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A common strategy is to just log foods that have carbs. That way to can keep track of the carb count easier.3
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I’m actually debating with myself whether to keep tracking or not. It will be interesting to see exactly what I eat if I’m not trying to hit a calorie goal but I don’t know if still seeing that number on the screen might affect whether I eat or not.0
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@FIT_Goat - I joined the group this morning, but did not seem like the request went through? Please let me know if the request is not there. Want to make sure I am in for Aug. 1st
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I am very intrigued by this and think that I'm going to give it a go. I was already considering doing my own "Zero Carb Challenge" for August, so think that I might do so in conjunction with this. I do currently track my calories and try to ensure that I remain in a deficit, so this is probably going to be tough for me. But I figure, if I'm only eating meat and eggs and maybe some goat's milk dairy, that maybe I won't feel the need to track. I've got to admit. The concept of not tracking scares me. I find that when I don't track, it's easy for me to go off of the rails. I'm going to do my best. I really need to get this weight off.2
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CrispyStars3 wrote: »@FIT_Goat - I joined the group this morning, but did not seem like the request went through? Please let me know if the request is not there. Want to make sure I am in for Aug. 1st Thanks!
I don't see it. I am going to send an invite. Maybe that will work.melmerritt33 wrote: »I’m actually debating with myself whether to keep tracking or not. It will be interesting to see exactly what I eat if I’m not trying to hit a calorie goal but I don’t know if still seeing that number on the screen might affect whether I eat or not.
I had a fairly long response to this, but then I hit "Done" on the top of the app and not the "post reply" or whatever it is under the post. That erases the whole post. I do that more often than I like to admit. The short answer is that tracking everything is fine, as long as your calorie count doesn't impact the type or amount of food that you would eat.1 -
CrispyStars3 wrote: »@FIT_Goat - I joined the group this morning, but did not seem like the request went through? Please let me know if the request is not there. Want to make sure I am in for Aug. 1st Thanks!
I don't see it. I am going to send an invite. Maybe that will work.melmerritt33 wrote: »I’m actually debating with myself whether to keep tracking or not. It will be interesting to see exactly what I eat if I’m not trying to hit a calorie goal but I don’t know if still seeing that number on the screen might affect whether I eat or not.
I had a fairly long response to this, but then I hit "Done" on the top of the app and not the "post reply" or whatever it is under the post. That erases the whole post. I do that more often than I like to admit. The short answer is that tracking everything is fine, as long as your calorie count doesn't impact the type or amount of food that you would eat.
Shame we lost that reply! Thanks, thinking of one of two approaches, Number 1 is to temporarily change my calorie goal really low or really high so that when I see it I know it’s not an actual goal number and will be reminded that it’s not my focus right now. Number 2 is to just not record anything until I’m ready for bed, that might actually work as I’m planning on sticking to meat eggs and dairy so not a lot to remember there!2 -
I'll join this too. I'm really lazy about logging so I won't need to change much.
For me, this works when carbs are low to zero. I let my carbs creep up this past year and regained some of my lost weight. This summer, I've cut carbs and have been losing again without worrying about calories or not eating when hungry. I'm a believer.
I'm another going for zero carb. I'm just weaning myself off of stevia and protein powder in my coffees. I really am that lazy - I tend to treat those as a small meal's worth of calories or energy rather than cooking breakfast or lunch.1 -
I eat around 55-60 grams of protein a day. On days I lift I might take it up to 70 just depending on how I feel. The founder of Common Sense Keto has been doing this way of Keto for over 10 years and he's a CrossFit Coach/Athlete. He's shredded and not losing muscle by eating less protein. I think his max protein a day is around 80
Protein is outside the scope of this challenge, but we'e had tons of discussions on why low protein tends to be significantly worse than too much. Too much protein is almost harmless, too little is a major long-term issue. I did google him to see what his advice is, and I hate to say that I just don't agree. There is almost no one who has "too much protein" as a negative issues that is hindering their ketogenic diet (outside of those who are on a therapeutic diet and absolutely must keep blood ketone levels sky high).
I was going to chime in here as well, because I routinely eat 60-70 grams of protein with EACH meal and have no problem maintaining ketosis, weight loss and more importantly to me, muscle mass.
Yeah, 60 feels low to me. I realize people who recommend .8 g/km of IDEAL weight eat roughly that much. I have seen what higher protein alone with no other dietary changes can do for someone, so this whole thing has been extremely confusing. I personally try to average 95g. I remember reading that during weight loss the higher amount supposedly hinders insulin resistance healing -- but I wonder how true that is, I'd only seen a single study on it.
The 60g of protein is what he eats at each meal. If he eats three meals a day, that's about 180g of protein in a day. Probably closer to 1 g per pound body weight. Probably at the top of the moderate protein range.
I've seen a few people who have said they need to keep protein to moderate, or the low side of moderate for their IR. I don't think it is the norm though.2 -
I'll join this too. I'm really lazy about logging so I won't need to change much.
For me, this works when carbs are low to zero. I let my carbs creep up this past year and regained some of my lost weight. This summer, I've cut carbs and have been losing again without worrying about calories or not eating when hungry. I'm a believer.
I'm another going for zero carb. I'm just weaning myself off of stevia and protein powder in my coffees. I really am that lazy - I tend to treat those as a small meal's worth of calories or energy rather than cooking breakfast or lunch.
I had carb creep over the past year, too. Ugh. I've toyed with the idea of going close to zero carb for a while but may instead keep it to something simple like (up to 3 servings/day of non-starchy vegetables) and maybe cut back artificial sweeteners to 1/day, then maybe 1-2/wk.0 -
macchiatto wrote: »I'll join this too. I'm really lazy about logging so I won't need to change much.
For me, this works when carbs are low to zero. I let my carbs creep up this past year and regained some of my lost weight. This summer, I've cut carbs and have been losing again without worrying about calories or not eating when hungry. I'm a believer.
I'm another going for zero carb. I'm just weaning myself off of stevia and protein powder in my coffees. I really am that lazy - I tend to treat those as a small meal's worth of calories or energy rather than cooking breakfast or lunch.
I had carb creep over the past year, too. Ugh. I've toyed with the idea of going close to zero carb for a while but may instead keep it to something simple like (up to 3 servings/day of non-starchy vegetables) and maybe cut back artificial sweeteners to 1/day, then maybe 1-2/wk.
Annoying isn't it?! I wish I could just hit that magic weight and stay there without effort. I almost think losing is a simpler mind game than maintaining. I find it harder to stay vigilant to stay where I want than it is to achieve what I want. If that makes sense.
But I still think starting is the hardest mind game. Something about that is always the most daunting to me me.2 -
macchiatto wrote: »I'll join this too. I'm really lazy about logging so I won't need to change much.
For me, this works when carbs are low to zero. I let my carbs creep up this past year and regained some of my lost weight. This summer, I've cut carbs and have been losing again without worrying about calories or not eating when hungry. I'm a believer.
I'm another going for zero carb. I'm just weaning myself off of stevia and protein powder in my coffees. I really am that lazy - I tend to treat those as a small meal's worth of calories or energy rather than cooking breakfast or lunch.
I had carb creep over the past year, too. Ugh. I've toyed with the idea of going close to zero carb for a while but may instead keep it to something simple like (up to 3 servings/day of non-starchy vegetables) and maybe cut back artificial sweeteners to 1/day, then maybe 1-2/wk.
Annoying isn't it?! I wish I could just hit that magic weight and stay there without effort. I almost think losing is a simpler mind game than maintaining. I find it harder to stay vigilant to stay where I want than it is to achieve what I want. If that makes sense.
But I still think starting is the hardest mind game. Something about that is always the most daunting to me me.
I agree! One of these days I'll get maintenance figured out. I miss being able to wear the smaller clothes in my wardrobe! 0 -
macchiatto wrote: »macchiatto wrote: »I'll join this too. I'm really lazy about logging so I won't need to change much.
For me, this works when carbs are low to zero. I let my carbs creep up this past year and regained some of my lost weight. This summer, I've cut carbs and have been losing again without worrying about calories or not eating when hungry. I'm a believer.
I'm another going for zero carb. I'm just weaning myself off of stevia and protein powder in my coffees. I really am that lazy - I tend to treat those as a small meal's worth of calories or energy rather than cooking breakfast or lunch.
I had carb creep over the past year, too. Ugh. I've toyed with the idea of going close to zero carb for a while but may instead keep it to something simple like (up to 3 servings/day of non-starchy vegetables) and maybe cut back artificial sweeteners to 1/day, then maybe 1-2/wk.
Annoying isn't it?! I wish I could just hit that magic weight and stay there without effort. I almost think losing is a simpler mind game than maintaining. I find it harder to stay vigilant to stay where I want than it is to achieve what I want. If that makes sense.
But I still think starting is the hardest mind game. Something about that is always the most daunting to me me.
I agree! One of these days I'll get maintenance figured out. I miss being able to wear the smaller clothes in my wardrobe!
I hear you!
I got rid of two sizes worth of fat clothes when I lost weight a few years ago. I actually had to go and buy a pair of shorts this spring because what I had left was too small. That's what prompted me to get losing again. I can thankfully now wear the shorts that were too loose a year ago, although they aren't loose anymore. LOL hopefully I'll be back into all of my 10s and 8s again before next year.
And then I need to ignore figure out maintenance again. Better this time.
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@nvmomketo I'm trying to get back into my 8's and some 10's, too. I ended up being thankful this summer that I'd saved two pairs of size 12 shorts. I was a bit shocked that gaining 10 lbs had me going up *two* sizes in shorts (the 12's are a tad loose but I tried on a bunch of 10 shorts at Target and they were too tight!) but at least I didn't have to blow all my money. I really thought I'd lose the weight by the end of this summer, but I'm nowhere near.
And yes, I'm not entirely sure what "ignore out maintenance" was supposed to be but hopefully you and I will both rock maintenance this time around!0 -
Argh, dumb autocorrect. So sorry about that. I should have double checked. I meant figure out, and not ignore out. LOL 2
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Haha, that makes more sense! Autocorrect gets me often.0
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We start tomorrow. Everyone should make sure they weigh in tomorrow morning. If someone started early, that's fine. When you do your check-in, just let me know what your start date was. You'll be checking in early (every 7 days) compared to the rest of us, but I can make it work.2
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I just asked to join as well. I’ve gotten really good at logging and checking calories and feel like I need a break from it. I think I’ll struggle initially but want to give it a go.0
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I'm going to track foods simply to make sure I eat enough. But I'm going to ignore calories as long as there are at least 900.1
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I'm interested 😊0
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If you're interested in joining, here is the group link. https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/127716-low-carber-ad-libitum-experience
I will add people as quickly as I see you.0 -
Currently we have 34 people registered. 19 of them have checked in for the initial check in. Two of them let me know they'll be starting a little late. So, 13 people still need to check in. They have plenty of time. I don't have complete data, but it looks like we have a wide variety of people. We have those who have lots of weight to lose, and a couple who are looking to lose less than 5 pounds, if anything.3
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So far we have 28 people who have checked in and begun. The average weight is 212 pounds, but the range varies and we have people with little/nothing to lose and others with more than 100 pounds to go. I'm pretty excited to see what the next week is going to bring.0
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My scale logs my weight and body fat and logs daily so this one is easy for me. I am in.0
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My scale logs my weight and body fat and logs daily so this one is easy for me. I am in.
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I am now in my 4th week of Keto and have lost 12 pounds so far. I have been logging everything to get used to the carb counts, but cant help but look at the calories and start getting upset because I ate too many! I like the thought of focusing on the macros and not calories!
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