Share Your Day
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Unfortunately when our 🐹s break down it is either not obvious to the affected person, or they're trying to rationalize what their 🐹a are going to make them do anyway.
And I fully believe that she's not actually feeling her hunger at this point of time. In a non ED context it would be similar to end stage cancer preventing food intake. The difference there being the physical lack of option to react.
The problem with her is reaching through a brain that's lying to her to get her to at least try to break the cycle.
Some good insights here. There's scientific evidence that folks who are starving to death (hunger strikers, people living through genuine unrelenting famine and victims of inhumane wartime atrocities and experiments) aren't ravenous all day every day. When you're literally starving to death, nature is kind enough to remove the torture of hunger from the equation.
When food becomes available again, it's really important to reintroduce the nutrition in a measured, balanced way because otherwise the sudden ingestion of too many nutrients into a system that has been starved of them can lead to electrolyte imbalance, vomiting, dehydration etc. Refeeding syndrome constitutes a genuine medical emergency, as it can be fatal.
And yes....her brain is definitely lying to her. Her disordered thinking isn't necessarily something she can identify and correct herself...PAV, Ann etc are trying to make her recognise the irrationality of her thought processes, but it's hard to convince someone that they're delusional....4 -
I think the reason that stories like hers hit home so hard is that most of us have been there at some point. It's at least 30 years since I mistreated my body in that way, but I do still recall the period of several weeks in my early 20s when I ate little but boiled garden peas with a teaspoon of ketchup...and the several weeks when I ate little but dried apricots. While exercising intensively for 4 hours a day.
Even back in 2012, when I first joined MFP, I thought 1200 calories a day was an acceptable calorie goal (I'm only 5'1) and I was 40 weeks into my 'diet' before I did more research and upped my calories to 1500/day.
This time around I was better informed and from the get-go I set my MINIMUM daily calories at 1500/day...but it took years of reprogramming myself to get to the point when that felt sensible rather than dietary self-sabotage.5 -
Yeah, I don't post calorie counts when I post my menus, but usually I'm between 300-400 for lunch and 400-600 for dinner. I run very comfortably around 1350-1450 calories. And I eat bread and real butter, and cream sauces, and pasta and rice and all that.4
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So yesterday I had a very indulgent day - which I enjoyed - and the scale jumped 1.2kg overnight to reward me!
I didn't intend to have an indulgent day...it just unfolded that way. I'd intended to have a day with higher-than-average amounts of fat (as part of the slow-gut-transit-experiment), but I'd still planned to come in within my planned calorie budget. You know what they say about best laid plans, right? Somehow my planned 80g fat had blossomed to 150g by the time I'd finished dinner, what with the addition of a buttered hot cross bun and a Cadbury Creme Egg as wee post-prandial snackettes.
Today I could either flagellate myself with celery sticks...or just shrug and move on. I'm choosing to shrug and move on.6 -
So last night got crazy...
I was sitting on my sofa and happened to look outside to see some kids (early to mid teens I would say), just kinda hanging out in front of my building. I have seen this group around before so did not think much of it, until 2 of the kids split off from the rest and cut between a couple cars. Then one of them ducked down by a car, OPENED the driver side door, and leaned into the car. Now, I knew right away this was NOT their car. This car belonged to someone in my building. They then closed the door and started walking away... only to see me watching them and they took off.
So I spent the night dealing with giving information to the police including a description... and then I had to actually go and identify the kid when they caught him. So I ended up going to bed "late" (for me). Which means I am struggling this morning with being tired and when I am tired... I want to eat all the bad foods.
What a night. That dumb kid making a super stupid decision.4 -
So sorry you had to go through this! Neighbor needs to lock his car. But you did the right thing - most of us probably would have guiltily looked the other way rather than get involved.2
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Many of you know my husband has severe RA and Spinal Stenosis….he went to his pain management doctor last week and can’t get his cortisone shots for 2 weeks because he has to have a cancerous spot removed from his calf this week and will be on antibiotics…..he also has to have another back surgery procedure in June to remove nerves between his lower vertebrae…so Friday morning he was getting out of a chair and I was helping to steady him when he fell into me and knocked us both to the floor in our bedroom…neither of us hit our heads but I was against the door and could not get any traction to get up….our grands were here and had to call 911 and an ambulance arrived to take husband to the hospital as his pain was horrible…they helped me up and said someone could take me to the ER…we were treated and tested for 7 hours and john was admitted…( he was released later Friday night )… I was ok to come home but the EKG showed I have a blockage in my heart and I have to see a cardiologist ASAP this week if I can and they found a growth on one of johns adrenal glands…he will have to have an MRI to see what it is…we are going to have a hectic week and I have got to get my food intake under control…I officially gained 50 pounds back…I can hear myself huffing and puffing when I breathe….maybe this will give me the push to get my act together!5
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Oh Connie so many new worries! Hope you both get through all the tests this week and are well. Take care.2
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@Athijade Sounds like an eventful night.
@conniewilkins56 I'm hoping everything gets better for both of you quickly.
I decided to share some of my weekend. Everyone always says just jump on in.
I got new shoes and a new Fitbit on Friday. I was replacing shoes that I have walked almost 1,000 miles in and my Fitbit was from 2018. Both were needing an update. Pretty happy with both purchases so far.
Hubby made pork ribs for supper today on our new (to us) Traeger Pellet Grill. We bought it from someone used for $215. New they can be up to $1,000 so I feel like we got a good deal. The ribs turned out really good, we were all really happy with the taste.
It was nice here yesterday and today so I was able to get some walking in outside. I have really been missing getting outside because of the wind. Tomorrow is still supposed to be nice and then it gets windy again on Tuesday. I have tried walking in the wind but it aggravates my asthma and I hate using my inhaler so I try to avoid that at all costs.4 -
Funny thing about shoes. During the 2 years of covid I walked about 3-4 miles outside almost daily. Gyms were closed so that was the only alternative but I really enjoyed being outside. Then I developed a foot stress fracture and then hip bursitis- both probably from overuse because I’m am old lady!
It wasn’t until I had to stop the long hikes that I realized I had worn a large HOLE in the thick sole of my running shoes! It was covered by my arch inserts. I didn’t even think it was possible to do that! Who knew? I’d never been active enough in my whole life to wear out a shoe.
I am now back in the gym but working at a slower pace. Some stationary bike, treadmill and weights. No pavement pounding.
So ABD enjoy your walks outdoors but do check your shoes!3 -
I wish MY shoes lasted 1000 miles. No they don't. And I am problematic enough (who would have EVER thought that I would be problematic?-NO-ONE!-am-I-right-or-am-I-right!?!?
) that even the same model between batches stops working... much less different models even within the same brand. Used to do New Balance only... but a side effect of sliming is that I've gone from EEE to "just" wide, albeit a very wide wide. So I've been using Merrell Mocs. But not all mocs fit equally well. Anyway. When in continuous use we're talking less than 3 months for each paid... which puts them up there in the cell phone bill expense category!
So ABD, WHICH fitbit did you get?2 -
My shoes were falling apart. They did not last 1,000 miles but I hated the other shoes I bought about a year ago and kept going back to the broken pair. The broke down shoes felt better than the new ones I had. This time I got the same brand and style of the ones broken ones just in a different color. They still seem to be working well. I walked 9 miles in them over the weekend, most of that outside.
I had the Fitbit Inspire HR for 4 years so I decided to get the Fitbit Luxe because it still has the small screen like the Inspire HR. I don't like the big smartwatch screens since I never used to wear a watch at all before getting a Fitbit. The Luxe has all the same features of the Inspire HR and a few more since it's several years newer.3 -
What do you do to your shoes to wear them out that quickly? My shoes last much longer than 1000 miles...
My MIL bought me these new walking shoes for Christmas to replace an identical pair that I wore daily for at least a year. I wore them for the first time on Boxing Day (26th Dec 2021), and since then I've walked 693.2 miles in them...I'll be thinking of them as 'my new shoes' for at least another year. Last year I walked 2,714 miles, and I hope to exceed that this year, so the previous pair were good for at least 2800 miles....
These shoes cost £55 - that's not a bad price, I don't think....especially if someone else buys them for me for Christmas so they cost me nowt!
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I find I need new daily-wear shoes twice a year. It's not that I walk excessively, but I'm still massing over 200 pounds and that breaks them down. It's not a thing where I can put up with an old shoe, either, because I will start getting a massive and debilitating amount of foot pain and really find myself restricted. I'm hoping that a side effect of weight loss will be not wearing my shoes out so fast.5
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Shoes are such an expensive bother 🙂
I've been wearing doc Martin bouncy souls for a few years... The ones with the really thick soft soles... Because I messed up my foot and these were the only shoes that made walking bearable. Most of my walking is on concrete and these make it feel like you're walking on turf. The only problem is those soft soles wear out really quickly and not necessarily evenly so I end up buying two pair per year or I get sore knees/hips...plus a pair of winter boots maybe every second year?
I'm pretty heavy and I'm a heavy walker...no matter what I weigh. And scrolling through fitbit I think I can say average about 50 miles a week...now I have to use math
...so maybe 2600 miles in a year and maybe 1100 miles out of a pair of boots? 2 -
A friend took a sneaky photo of my yesterday, and I'm now in a quandary. Because of the usual body dysphoria that accompanies significant weight loss, I've been thinking of myself as still noticeably overweight - my brain hasn't caught up with the number on the scale and on the clothing labels yet. But, in the snapshot, I reckon I look like someone of 'normal' build, which was my holy grail when I started. I don't have any other recent photos, but I found an old photo from 2013, when I was about 2kgs heavier than I am today, and again, I reckon I look 'normal' build-wise (considering in the 2013 photo I was wearing a heavily padded skydiving suit).
So - I've reached my holy grail of looking 'normal build', even if the BMI charts would disagree. Should I press on and lose my remaining 10kg (22lbs), or just continue enjoying being at maintenance for a while? I never aspired to being skinny, or looking good naked (my husband may wish I were more ambitious, but that's his problem not mine). As long as I looked OK in clothes, that was good enough for me. Clothes can hide a multitude of flaws, and I'm never likely to show much bare flesh in public.
I'm pretty sure Pav would tell me to enjoy maintenance for at least a few months and let my body adjust and recover before pressing on, but what do you ladies think? Part of me thinks it's a cop-out stopping before I reach the finish line...another part of me thinks the health benefits are already gained and I look normal-build in clothes so I should just be happy with that, at least for a while.
Thoughts? Maintain or press on?
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You look great, Bella. And it happy. And you seem to be in a very good place.
BMI is really kinda whacked - as we all know.
I so understand where you are at. I was there last year. I chose to push onward and it became harder and harder and I think that is part of the reason I ended up having my bump upwards - as much as the surgery challenges.
So I would recommend what I plan to do this time around, which is - get to "normal" looking/feeling and then focus on slightly, slightly more than maintenance. Kinda like maintenance with a few deficit days thrown into the mix now and again with the goal of maybe losing a four pounds a year...one per season
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Bella, you look like a totally normal person but then looks can be deceiving (lol). 😁Seriously you look wonderful.
My goal was mainly to no longer be the fattest woman in the room. I’m kind of there with about 25 pounds from my personal goal. It’s hard to stay motivated when I generally look like the average overweight American older woman. I can get clothes off the normal rack, buckle the airline seatbelt easily, family is pleased, doctor is happy....
But how much more loose skin can I hide if I lose more? Do I go on or rest on my substantial laurels? I can comfortably maintain or slog on. Trying to find the motivation now is difficult. Guess we each must decide for ourselves 🤔3 -
Bella you look wonderful!1
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I've had a day where for half of it my feet hurt like blazes due to the arthritis plus the weather.
And yet, I stayed within my calories. I'm pretty proud of that as eating when I hurt is an old comfort....yet I did not.7 -
Yay Alexandra, that's a real NSV! You deserve to feel proud!2
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In the UK, as of this week it's mandatory for all large restaurants/cafes chains (with more than 250 employees) to print calorie information on their menus.
Best just to avoid looking at the menu entirely and scan the restaurant until you see someone eating something that looks tasty and say 'I'll have what she's having....'
Otherwise you'd never order anything....
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Does this mean we will all gravitate to smaller restaurants / cafes/ eateries as they have 0 calorie foods? 😬😬😂4
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Bella, you look wonderful! I can only hope to get to that point. Personally, I would maybe take a maintenance break but it all depends on how you are feeling mentally. If you have any sort of diet fatigue, then a break may do you good. It would also help you get used to what it will take to maintain that loss. If you get to the point where you want to get rid of the last of the weight, then you can. It is such a personal decision on how you want to take it though.
Alex, that is a great victory! You should be super proud of it.
As for me, Sunday I went on a long walk (for me). It was mostly off the main walking trail as well, so it was a bit more rugged then just a normal walk. Which I prefer as I feel I get a better workout since the path isn't flat and I have to get over fallen trees and the like. And I was proud of myself for doing it. I had no plans to go out on that walk, but it was a nice day and I decided to do so on a whim instead of sitting on my butt all day.
Now yesterday I was feeling it. I was really sore. My legs ached and so did my back/hip. But I still got myself up and took a short walk around the apartment complex (about 20 mins). Felt so much better when I got home. Hopefully I can do the same later today as well before the rain starts. Tomorrow I should be able to get 30-45 mins of walking in since I am in the office and we have tunnels so I can still do it even with the storms. It is supposed to get pretty nasty tomorrow.3 -
Many restaurants here post calories on the menu or online. It’s eye-popping! To keep the counts down many places note calories piecemeal. So, meat separate, add potatoes separately, buttered veg, rolls and breads…. You kind of expect high calories in desserts but salads and veggies are surprisingly high too. Even soups.3
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My feet feel better, but I know that charging in and trying to do all of yesterday's work today will not be a good idea. Going to have breakfast and pace myself carefully.6
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Good job yesterday, Alexandra - and followed up with some smart thinking today!
Bella - those numbers are stunning/shocking/scary.
Sounds like a great walk, Athijade. I'm sorry that more of my walks aren't in rugged terrain. It takes so long for me to get to the more rugged terrain that most days I'm ready to turn back by the time I do.
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I am going to make an attempt to cook boneless chicken thighs for the first time…..thinking sweet potato wedges and petite green peas with it and a salad….4
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Share my day - well still coming down from it! First day back at work - meant to be a phased return -LMAO!
Hectic to say the least, even though from home! But as pledging - daily habits - …drum roll please…..finished to time!
Not manged to find time for lunch or a cuppa, though glugged water from my new best friend, my water bottle!
My head is clanging now though🥴
Was researching through the olde threads and posts on here to refresh myself and @AlexanderFindsHerself1971, I found this golden nugget from January 2020:
(Sorry I do not know how to highlight this BBCode is rubbish on ipads!)
“I also had to do a lot of work on myself. Food cannot hold you when you grieve. It cannot dry your tears when you are sad. It cannot hear you out when you're angry. It can't protect you when you're scared. It can't keep you awake when you're tired, or make you feel better when you hurt. I am learning to let food just do what it can; fuel my body, please my palate, and be a way that I say I care about myself and others.”
I love it! & goes to show that you implemented it yesterday with the hurting feet and then not consoling yourself with food - I Hope they are less throbby today
As an emotional, disordered eater, I am going to keep philosophy in mind as resonates like the current “banging hammer”in my head 😅 …. & I’lll borrow it in wrting if okay!7
