Did you swim today?

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  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    edited May 2015
    42 lengths. 1050m. Second 30 length Time Trial for Triatholon 17:58:85.
    Then 12 slow Breast/Back combo's as a cool down.
    Wo Ho consistent time under 18 minutes puts me in the middle of the pack based on Last Years results and about 4th for my age group ( Good thing that there were only 5 in the group last year )
  • stephenrhinton
    stephenrhinton Posts: 522 Member
    62 minutes
  • mpeters1965
    mpeters1965 Posts: 370 Member
    62 minutes
    Stephen - What consistency! I know you have probably mentioned it before but where do you swim that you can go every day?

  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    Okay, I need to get serious now. I have an open water swim in about six weeks. I'm getting in the lake, no matter how damn cold, this weekend. And I need to bump up my yardage.

    Today 1500 yards 43 minutes. *sighs* I've given up worrying about speeding up. It's disheartening and it gets me not wanting to swim when I sweat it.
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    edited May 2015
    1400m Front crawl.
    Today 1500 yards 43 minutes. *sighs* I've given up worrying about speeding up. It's disheartening and it gets me not wanting to swim when I sweat it.
    My personal experience was that to speed up I had to Slow down and complete the last part of the stroke. Slowed my stroke rate, making sure that I was pushing all the way until my arm was straight. My Swim Coach gave me that tip in my lessons and I started paying lots of attention to the last part of my stroke I was normally starting to do arm recovery/stroke end with a bent elbow, that meant that I was not completing the very last part of the stroke. Don't sweat it just get in there and swim. Glad to see your comments back on the group :)
  • Macstraw
    Macstraw Posts: 896 Member
    Juliet is right on the money - ultimately you will want the stroke rate up while getting the full length of a powerful pull, but first you need to get the pull going all the way to the end. Once it becomes natural you can increase the stroke rate. It won't take long to get it, as long as you concentrate on the technique to make it natural. You can do that in conjunction with increasing the yardage, killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Don't get disheartened by any of it, all of a sudden you will see a big change as long as you stick to it. Plateaus, even some regression, are common & then all of a sudden there's a leap forward.....

    Finally back in today after almost 2 weeks out (missed the last couple of days 2 weeks ago while biopsy spots healed, then had treatments last week. I had been hoping to swim Friday, but my wife was under the weather so I stayed home to get the kids off to school so she could get some much needed sleep....

    Shaking the rust off freestyle workout today: 250, 500, 1000, 1500, 1500, 1000, 500, 250 yards.....
  • Kida_Adeylne
    Kida_Adeylne Posts: 201 Member
    Went to the pool very early so I could actually go swimming today - 1000m. (at about 700m my stomach woke up and I couldn't swim much more).
  • mpeters1965
    mpeters1965 Posts: 370 Member
    Swam today on my own, Masters tomorrow. We had a bit of a "cool' snap over the weekend so the pool water was down to 75 degrees. Made me swim a bit faster. 1500yds I think but I kind of lost count in the middle. Good thing I got the extra day in because I went whole hog on some pizza for lunch.
  • AquaticQuests
    AquaticQuests Posts: 947 Member
    edited May 2015
    2.5 km 54 min.
    Felt way tired before the swim, but the time turned out decent!
    Gym day tomorrow! Ugh!
    The gym work has certainly interfered with my swim groove and the balance I was getting into! Body is all out of whack!
    But will push through all the same, because it'll probably be for the good ultimately!
    The treadmill and circuits await! :anguished:
  • AquaticQuests
    AquaticQuests Posts: 947 Member
    Okay, I need to get serious now. I have an open water swim in about six weeks. I'm getting in the lake, no matter how damn cold, this weekend. And I need to bump up my yardage.

    Today 1500 yards 43 minutes. *sighs* I've given up worrying about speeding up. It's disheartening and it gets me not wanting to swim when I sweat it.

    Yeah don't worry about speeding up, especially if it is frustrating you out of the pool!
    Bump up the yardage as you're intending to already and get used to that increased daily yardage for now. You can always come back to speeding up later!

    The little victories keep us going, be it technique, yardage, speed, etc



  • AquaticQuests
    AquaticQuests Posts: 947 Member
    edited May 2015
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  • stephenrhinton
    stephenrhinton Posts: 522 Member
    62 minutes ...
    Stephen - What consistency! I know you have probably mentioned it before but where do you swim that you can go every day?

    I swim at a Gold's Gym ...its just a 2 lane lap pool, but open 24/7 ...I've been in the water as early as 5:30am and as late as midnight. And at least at mine the lanes are fairly open. I only rarely need to share a lane or wait for one to open. Much more economical than the YMCA or Aquatic Center Membership. On the downside, no teams or coaching available. I've toyed around with jumping over to the Aquatic Center for a bit just to be able to connect with more experienced swimmers.
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    2000 yards 58:30
  • mpeters1965
    mpeters1965 Posts: 370 Member
    62 minutes ...
    Stephen - What consistency! I know you have probably mentioned it before but where do you swim that you can go every day?

    I swim at a Gold's Gym ...its just a 2 lane lap pool, but open 24/7 ...I've been in the water as early as 5:30am and as late as midnight. And at least at mine the lanes are fairly open. I only rarely need to share a lane or wait for one to open. Much more economical than the YMCA or Aquatic Center Membership. On the downside, no teams or coaching available. I've toyed around with jumping over to the Aquatic Center for a bit just to be able to connect with more experienced swimmers.

    That's a tough call. I know on the days I swim with a group, I put in better effort, but having the flexibility to go whenever you want to at a reasonable cost is great. Jumping over for a bit will mix it up and if you can do it on a trial basis, you can be sure you like it before committing. I know lots of people who swim every day on their own and are just fine with it.
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    @stephenrhinton FWIW, I train by myself, and probably will for at least a year or so. There is no way I could keep up with the swimmers in my local Masters team, and it would suck the fun out of it to constantly be reminded of that. (Not that the people themselves are unkind. They're not. This is internal).

    If you're more motivated by camaraderie, however, I cannot recommend some sort of swim group enough! Swim teams tend to be all about that.
  • Macstraw
    Macstraw Posts: 896 Member
    @NoelFigart1 - I would bet if you looked into a Masters program, they would get you into a lane with swimmers of a similar ability (assuming you'd be interested).....

    I.M. workout today, with a serious case of dead arms: 250 free, 500 free, 1000 free, 5 x200 I.M., 500 free, 5 x 200 I.M., 1000 free, 250 free......
  • mpeters1965
    mpeters1965 Posts: 370 Member
    @stephenrhinton FWIW, I train by myself, and probably will for at least a year or so. There is no way I could keep up with the swimmers in my local Masters team, and it would suck the fun out of it to constantly be reminded of that. (Not that the people themselves are unkind. They're not. This is internal).

    If you're more motivated by camaraderie, however, I cannot recommend some sort of swim group enough! Swim teams tend to be all about that.

    I am the slowest swimmer in our regular masters group. New people come in and they might be slower at first but they always seem to speed up past me eventually. In this morning's hour workout, I got in 2,000 yds of mixed freestyle sets. If I flat out swam for an hour, I could maybe get 2,300 yds and if there is any significant amount of non-freestyle work, it can drop to 1,700.

    I agree that it can suck the fun out being the slowest, especially on the days when we have lots of new people and I am kicked up to a faster lane and get consistently passed by our speedies. But it is ALL internal. None of them seem to care. I am not all that competitive by nature but I am used to being extremely competent in all other phases of my life so it is definitely an adjustment. I work on what I can and remind myself of the things I am good at on the days where it seems to bug me more. I have an excellent and efficient open turn (still working on flips) and great endurance. While I may not be fast, I'm also faster than I used to be. And hey, I'm in the pool and love it! :smile:
  • AquaticQuests
    AquaticQuests Posts: 947 Member
    45 min sprints.
    Woke up too late to hit the gym which is usually a 2 hr workout.
    So I had to make do with the pool lol :smile:
    And after reading this, I'm not exactly missing the treadmill either: http://gawker.com/mexican-officials-say-dave-goldberg-died-after-falling-1702118187
  • stephenrhinton
    stephenrhinton Posts: 522 Member
    61 minutes
  • Kida_Adeylne
    Kida_Adeylne Posts: 201 Member
    60min of masters. We did 100m IMs - and I did the whole length of butterfly!! Four times! Yes!!!! (The rest of each IM was torture - I was done after that length of fly).
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    edited May 2015
    60min of masters. We did 100m IMs - and I did the whole length of butterfly!! Four times! Yes!!!! (The rest of each IM was torture - I was done after that length of fly).

    I have never managed more than 1/2 a length of fly before I self destruct. I find it too hard on my shoulders due to old injuries.

    Light Swim tonight 40 minutes probably only 900-1000 meters, Front Crawl, Breast and Kick drills. Shoulders are still a little tender from my 750m sprint time trials for the local TriRivers Sprint Marathon. Due to Life Schedules I was forced to do the 2 Time Trials on consecutive days. Not used to the high speed heavy work load of a Time Trial so that is why I hurt a little bit.
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    58:25 2000yds
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    It was a " beautiful day here yesterday ". A perfect example of why we have very few outdoor pools except in the Big Cities.
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  • Macstraw
    Macstraw Posts: 896 Member
    60min of masters. We did 100m IMs - and I did the whole length of butterfly!! Four times! Yes!!!! (The rest of each IM was torture - I was done after that length of fly).

    If you keep at it, the fly endurance will build faster than you expect, nice work!!!!!

    All freestyle today - felt VERY sluggish & sloppy (I HATE days like this): 250, 500, 1000, 1500, 1500, 1000, 500, 250.......
  • AquaticQuests
    AquaticQuests Posts: 947 Member
    edited May 2015
    Today I just didn't go. Didn't have the time, so I'll consider it a rest day!
    61 minutes
    Mr consistent at it again! :smile:
    60min of masters. We did 100m IMs - and I did the whole length of butterfly!! Four times! Yes!!!! (The rest of each IM was torture - I was done after that length of fly).

    Good stuff! Half the battle is mental, and once you can mentally break through that barrier, you're almost home!
    juliet3455 wrote: »
    60min of masters. We did 100m IMs - and I did the whole length of butterfly!! Four times! Yes!!!! (The rest of each IM was torture - I was done after that length of fly).

    I have never managed more than 1/2 a length of fly before I self destruct. I find it too hard on my shoulders due to old injuries.

    Light Swim tonight 40 minutes probably only 900-1000 meters, Front Crawl, Breast and Kick drills. Shoulders are still a little tender from my 750m sprint time trials for the local TriRivers Sprint Marathon. Due to Life Schedules I was forced to do the 2 Time Trials on consecutive days. Not used to the high speed heavy work load of a Time Trial so that is why I hurt a little bit.

    Yeah my shoulders can be testy too, but shoulder exercises help. The pain is no longer with my shoulders much, but more with the elbows now! Lol!
    58:25 2000yds

    Yep - you're definitely upping the yardage :smiley:
    juliet3455 wrote: »
    It was a " beautiful day here yesterday ". A perfect example of why we have very few outdoor pools except in the Big Cities.
    Yep that looks just about perfect for an outdoor pool! Lol!
    Macstraw wrote: »
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    All freestyle today - felt VERY sluggish & sloppy (I HATE days like this): 250, 500, 1000, 1500, 1500, 1000, 500, 250.......

    Yep I hate those days.
    From my swim yesterday, there were ladies I see doing widths who kept asking me how I don't get tired when swimming.
    It was a hard job convincing them that I in fact do get tired - very tired - even though it might not look that way from the outside observer!

  • Macstraw
    Macstraw Posts: 896 Member
    I know what you mean, AQ, I find that when I'm getting my best work in people comment on how smooth & easy my stroke looks but I'm pretty wiped out when I'm done.....
  • stephenrhinton
    stephenrhinton Posts: 522 Member
    61 minutes, 1925m, 50 minute mile, Personal Best
    (unexpectedly reached the end of part of my audiobook, had to count laps)
    From my swim yesterday, there were ladies I see doing widths who kept asking me how I don't get tired when swimming.
    It was a hard job convincing them that I in fact do get tired - very tired - even though it might not look that way from the outside observer!
    Macstraw wrote: »
    I know what you mean, AQ, I find that when I'm getting my best work in people comment on how smooth & easy my stroke looks but I'm pretty wiped out when I'm done.....

    I really don't get that way much. I feel a general sense of fatigue and soreness. But I rarely get a 'couldn't swim another lap' exhaustion. I seem to just swim at my 'exercise forever stride'. But I also can't find another 'gear' between that and sprint. If I really push my speed much I am totally spent in just a few lengths.
  • Robertus
    Robertus Posts: 558 Member
    61 minutes, 1925m, 50 minute mile, Personal Best
    (unexpectedly reached the end of part of my audiobook, had to count laps)
    From my swim yesterday, there were ladies I see doing widths who kept asking me how I don't get tired when swimming.
    It was a hard job convincing them that I in fact do get tired - very tired - even though it might not look that way from the outside observer!
    Macstraw wrote: »
    I know what you mean, AQ, I find that when I'm getting my best work in people comment on how smooth & easy my stroke looks but I'm pretty wiped out when I'm done.....

    I really don't get that way much. I feel a general sense of fatigue and soreness. But I rarely get a 'couldn't swim another lap' exhaustion. I seem to just swim at my 'exercise forever stride'. But I also can't find another 'gear' between that and sprint. If I really push my speed much I am totally spent in just a few lengths.
    This is a really common experience. Your goal is not increasing fitness and endurance, but swimming every day to treat your diabetes. To increase fitness and stamina, you would follow a different approach, more intense work-outs and also more rest days afterward to let your body rebuild itself stronger. Exhaustion and rest, exhaustion and rest, over and over again. I'm not saying you should change your program; your doctor and you know what is best for you.

  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
    1500m 50 mins. Out of town so got to swim in my favorite pool, cold, big and deep.
  • AquaticQuests
    AquaticQuests Posts: 947 Member
    edited May 2015
    Gym work today. And I'm slowly regaining my mojo on that treadmill!
    61 minutes, 1925m, 50 minute mile, Personal Best
    (unexpectedly reached the end of part of my audiobook, had to count laps)

    I really don't get that way much. I feel a general sense of fatigue and soreness. But I rarely get a 'couldn't swim another lap' exhaustion. I seem to just swim at my 'exercise forever stride'. But I also can't find another 'gear' between that and sprint. If I really push my speed much I am totally spent in just a few lengths.

    Great job on the personal best Stephen.

    On the different gears, as Robertus points out, developing those gears requires mixing up the training regime from long swims at a steady rate (and possibly in the region of 75% of peak heart rate), to introducing sprints (where you are approaching 90-100%) heart rate over shorter periods of time, with greater rest periods in between intervals, and other high intensity stuff, drills, eg ladders etc.

    I am currently in the process of trying to build up a fast gear too, having worked on distance over the last few years, even as I keep touch with the long swims!

    I would say keep up the long swims and continue to push to increase the yardage too, even if you want to build up the gears, you can intersperse the high intensity stuff, with the long swims!