Tips and Tricks

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  • tecallahan
    tecallahan Posts: 732 Member
    Ok, so just started taking the Vit D suppliments 3 weeks ago.....what time of day do you find better? I take them in the morning.....but also I tried looking for natural calm in trader joe's but didn't see it and i have the whole constipation issue, any other suggestions on how to fix it? I hate that I go one week losing .5lbs and than don't lose for 2weeks....so tired of it all

    I take Vitamin D in the morning. I take my thyroid med sort of in the middle of the night when I wake up at like 4am!
    You can get Natural Calm at Whole Foods - or you can order it online from Amazon.com
  • Cindym82
    Cindym82 Posts: 1,245 Member
    i'll have to look it up on amazon cause i'm not sure we have a whole foods close....
  • Farfelue
    Farfelue Posts: 63
    This is one fantastic thread!

    I am ashimoto too and have been on meds for 8 years. Didn't know about the calcium.
    I just can't eat in the morning, it's just coffee or hot chocolate. BUT, I use Oat milk (with added calcium, 120mg per 100ml, 15% of RDA). I have about 200ml of it one hour after I've taken Cytomel and Levothyroxine.

    Is it a bad move?

    What's for breakfast then? No tea (milk), no juice (IBS reaction to most fruits and too high in sugars), can't do coconut either (IBS).
    Crap! Any ideas? Or I could have nothing and simply wait till 11am to have a coffee with oatmilk... sigh...
    Ama
  • awdamm
    awdamm Posts: 375 Member
    This is one fantastic thread!

    I am ashimoto too and have been on meds for 8 years. Didn't know about the calcium.
    I just can't eat in the morning, it's just coffee or hot chocolate. BUT, I use Oat milk (with added calcium, 120mg per 100ml, 15% of RDA). I have about 200ml of it one hour after I've taken Cytomel and Levothyroxine.

    Is it a bad move?

    What's for breakfast then? No tea (milk), no juice (IBS reaction to most fruits and too high in sugars), can't do coconut either (IBS).
    Crap! Any ideas? Or I could have nothing and simply wait till 11am to have a coffee with oatmilk... sigh...
    Ama

    granola, oatmeal, egg whites, toast, crackers, chicken... just because its "breakfast" doesn't mean you can only eat "breakfast type" foods. I work midnights so I just eat whatever "meal food" i feel like. Scrambled eggs at 3am isn't all that strange to me. nor is cereal at noon! :D
  • Yes it does show up in your blood work. I thought I was doing a good thing by taking a multi vitamin every morning. When I had my blood work checked it was as though I wasn't taking the synthroid at all. Come to find out it was because of the Calcium in the multi vitamin...
  • Farfelue
    Farfelue Posts: 63
    LOL I get it now!!!! -had to google it first!!! - OATMEAL is PORRIDGE ahahahahahha!

    Right, got you.
    But.... yuk yuk yuk! Porridge is horrible made with water!! It needs full fat milk and maple syrup! :wink:

    I'm not helping. I know.
  • incendia3
    incendia3 Posts: 57 Member




    granola, oatmeal, egg whites, toast, crackers, chicken... just because its "breakfast" doesn't mean you can only eat "breakfast type" foods. I work midnights so I just eat whatever "meal food" i feel like. Scrambled eggs at 3am isn't all that strange to me. nor is cereal at noon! :D

    Let's be honest now...Nothing is all that strange for you :tongue:
  • Farfelue
    Farfelue Posts: 63
    Eureka! I've found that Oatmilk ORGANIC doesn't contain the added calcium! yeepee, can still have my coffee at 8am!!!
  • ginnylee74
    ginnylee74 Posts: 398 Member
    I stay away from soy. As advised, I take my medication 30 mins to 1 hr prior to eating with a full glass of water and I have increased my protein.

    I used to take a Protein Bar with me if I had to go to town and eat for lunch or whatever ....... I noticed that most protein bars have soy in them. So now I take a hard boiled egg and apple or a piece of chicken with maybe a sliced apple or banana. Easy to eat and is healthy. If I feel I need something crunchy I will take a few gluten free crackers. (Peel the egg first.)
  • sollyn
    sollyn Posts: 179
    WOW! What am I going to do if I can't have my cereal with milk for breakfast?
    Since joining this group I have learned so much. I understand now not having calcium. SOOOO any suggestions for a quick breakfast for a mother of 3 that works full time?

    Have your meds by your bed and take as soon as the alarm goes off. Then by the time you have showered and raised the kids etc you will be fine for taking breakfast as normal.
  • sollyn
    sollyn Posts: 179
    I stay away from soy. As advised, I take my medication 30 mins to 1 hr prior to eating with a full glass of water and I have increased my protein.

    I used to take a Protein Bar with me if I had to go to town and eat for lunch or whatever ....... I noticed that most protein bars have soy in them. So now I take a hard boiled egg and apple or a piece of chicken with maybe a sliced apple or banana. Easy to eat and is healthy. If I feel I need something crunchy I will take a few gluten free crackers. (Peel the egg first.)
    If you dont peel the egg you get the crunch! lol:laugh:
  • tina990
    tina990 Posts: 18
    Hi. I'm new to this topic. Just noticed it was here and so glad I found it. I was aware of being careful about calcium but not sure I knew about the other things. I'll definitely be doing some research. Thanks for all the great info.
  • iqnas
    iqnas Posts: 445 Member
    Wow...my doctor had definitely not informed me of the calcium rule! I will be waiting at least an hour before I eat breakfast now! :)
  • Farfelue
    Farfelue Posts: 63
    You cracked me up with "peel egg first" :laugh:
  • awdamm
    awdamm Posts: 375 Member
    [/quote]

    granola, oatmeal, egg whites, toast, crackers, chicken... just because its "breakfast" doesn't mean you can only eat "breakfast type" foods. I work midnights so I just eat whatever "meal food" i feel like. Scrambled eggs at 3am isn't all that strange to me. nor is cereal at noon! :D
    [/quote]

    Let's be honest now...Nothing is all that strange for you :tongue:
    [/quote]

    very true! :D
  • slimjelly
    slimjelly Posts: 14 Member
    I take my pills at night just before I sleep.
  • sollyn
    sollyn Posts: 179
    All of my medication says to wait for 60 minutes before eating. I had no idea that I shouldn't be having calcium. I get up at 4:30 .. take my medication, start exercising at about 4:45 and have a cup of decaf coffee (i can't give up my coffee, but switched to decaf) with milk at about 6:30 every morning. Could this be hindering my weight loss?

    Me too! I have coffee with skim milk every morning about one to two hours after taking meds. I never knew of any diet restrictions with my levothyroxine! I've had three doctors over the course of ten years who never indicated any restrictions.
    Now I'm reading about restrictions on soy, calcium, green tea and carbs!!!
    I'm so frustrated. I work out 5to 6 days a week on the mfp 1200 calorie allowance. I can lose .5 to 1 lb a week if I'm lucky. But then I can gain a pound overnight.
    Any suggestions????

    If you are losing .5 - 1 pound a week you are doing great! I also workout 5-6 times a week, eat 1200 calories and been the same weight since 1/8/12. 6 weeks going up and down by 1/2 pound or so. The one thing I can't do is stop -- or for sure I will gain weight.

    Sometimes, you just need to adjust your ratios of Carb/fat/protein and you can see the scale move a little. Like reduce your carbs and increase your fat a little.

    Also, be sure to take your measurements - improvement might be in a smaller waist or hips.
    I didnt lose any for a week or two. but my measurements showed that my shape had changed. So the measuring is definitely a good idea.
  • ginnylee74
    ginnylee74 Posts: 398 Member
    Here's a recap -- some of us are more sensitive than others to these foods, but here's a general list of foods to avoid:
    - Anything with Soy
    - Anything with Calcium - (supplements, dairy) wait 4 hours before/after to take thyroid meds
    - Anything with Gluten - this is pretty much all grains except for rice and I think flax
    - Raw cruciferous veggies - broccoli, spinach, cauliflower, brussell sprouts, cabbage, kale, etc. -- they cause goiters!
    - steaming these veggies removes the harmful goiter stuff
    - - Strawberries and peaches -- they are goitogenic (can cause goiters)
    - Watch out for high iodine foods -- we get enough in our food usually, but kelp supplements and eating a lot of seafood can take the iodine too high, which can throw you into hyperthyroidism.

    I pretty much eat natural and organic foods. I have eliminated almost all packaged foods... definitely limits what you can eat, but we sure don't need the antibiotics and hormones that are in most meat and the pesticides on veggies/fruit.

    Read up about the "Dirty Dozen" (google it!) These are the 12 foods that are known to have the highest levels of pesticides, etc. Buy organic on these to avoid the addititves.


    Well,I read the dirty dozen. Between the Thyroid and pesticides, I guess I will stop eating.:sad: When I stopped smoking it was so easy. I wasn't a heavy smoker but I decided that it would be a good idea if I stopped. So I did.

    Now eating??????? That's another matter. I try to buy organic on the vegies. Organic fruit isn't available at the supermarket's where I shop soooooo guess I start getting produce at Whole Foods. Pay a little more but you get what you pay for. Besides the organic last longer.

    Thanks for the info Teri, It is so helpful. I'm serious. The info you post here is always right on.:drinker:

    Ginny:flowerforyou:
  • GymAnJuice
    GymAnJuice Posts: 512 Member
    I was told (years ago) by my doctor NOT to take my tablets at night because it starts your body working and i wont sleep well? now to find a shop that sells coconut milk me thinks...thanks guys....so much info on here
  • mbkrol
    mbkrol Posts: 21
    I have been on the meds for only 4 months. I wait about 20 min. also (per doctor) but you said no calicum for 4 hrs. what about the skim milk I put in my coffee? If I have to wait 4 hours for coffee, I may die...lol...I only use about a tsp in each cup, but I have 2 so thats 2 tsps. am I doomed? Help!
  • tecallahan
    tecallahan Posts: 732 Member
    I have been on the meds for only 4 months. I wait about 20 min. also (per doctor) but you said no calicum for 4 hrs. what about the skim milk I put in my coffee? If I have to wait 4 hours for coffee, I may die...lol...I only use about a tsp in each cup, but I have 2 so thats 2 tsps. am I doomed? Help!

    You may want to try So Delicious Coconut coffee creamer -- it's actually quite good - vegan, gluten free, dairy free --- 10 calories per tablespoon - and very, very low in calcium. They have flavors, too which are very good.

    I don't know about you, but I always wake up to pee at least once during the night -- I take my Armour at that time -- go back to sleep -- wake up several hours later and don't worry about my vitamins or food blocking absorption.
  • tecallahan
    tecallahan Posts: 732 Member
    Well,I read the dirty dozen. Between the Thyroid and pesticides, I guess I will stop eating.:sad: When I stopped smoking it was so easy. I wasn't a heavy smoker but I decided that it would be a good idea if I stopped. So I did.

    Now eating??????? That's another matter. I try to buy organic on the vegies. Organic fruit isn't available at the supermarket's where I shop soooooo guess I start getting produce at Whole Foods. Pay a little more but you get what you pay for. Besides the organic last longer.

    Thanks for the info Teri, It is so helpful. I'm serious. The info you post here is always right on.:drinker:

    Ginny:flowerforyou:

    I know -- it seems daunting -- but it can be done - buying organic is first, and if you can't then wash, wash, wash. Then, if you can, natural meat -- that is antibiotic and hormone free -- Perdue chicken is... but I will admit it's more expensive to eat this way and might not work for everyone. I think, though that even Wal-mart carries all natural meats -- read the labels.

    The jury is really out on gluten-free -- it doesn't help everyone -- but it did make a big difference for me in bloating and intestinal distress.

    Dairy free is not just for thyroid -- there are many doctors right now that are down on dairy. The claim is that we are the only species on the planet that continue to drink milk into adulthood and the only species that drinks the milk of other species!! I find that almond milk and coconut milk are just as good. I miss cheese desperately, but promised my doctor I would stay the course for 6 months. Give it a fighting chance to see how my body responds.

    I do not eat any breakfast -- just tea with stevia. Morning snack is an apple or orange. Lunch is a gigantic salad with lots of veggies and some sort of protein like chicken or shrimp. I use Waldon Farms dressings -- ZERO calories - no gluten or dairy. Publix has it here in GA in the refrigerator case. Then I have another piece of fruit for afternoon snack. Dinner is another protein and huge portion of veggies broccoli, brussel sprouts, etc... yes they are on the list, but I have them cooked. On days I work out, I add a veggie protein shake post-workout.

    Is it difficult? Yes!! But the alternative is to accept myself fat and tired and depressed, and I refuse to go there!

    Terri
  • Salanita
    Salanita Posts: 2
    After reading comments re not having calcium for 4 hours before taking meds, I decided upon myself to start taking my thyroxine (I'm on 150mg) before I go to bed, as I can't do without cereal or a cuppa first thing in the morning, I have to get up early 'ish for work.. I have been doing this for almost a week now & have been feeling awful everyday since I changed. I feel like I haven't taken any meds, headachey, fatigued, foggy headed etc.

    If anyone else has changed to taking them before bed, how long did it take before you felt your self again??
  • Shirlann46
    Shirlann46 Posts: 430 Member
    I asked the Question: How to take Natural thyroid Meds. Go to ehow.com and they have all the info you need.
    Take it 1 hour before EATING/including Morning Coffee. With Non-fluridated Water.
    WebSite has a lot of good info that I didn't know about.
    Check it out.:smile:
  • kudilein
    kudilein Posts: 8
    I read earlier on something about not having green tea?! Does anyone has any information on that one?
  • capricorn0120
    capricorn0120 Posts: 109 Member
    -Thyroid medication does not get absorbed when calcium is consumed up to 4 hours of taking your pill (learned this one the hard way)

    Are you serious? Doctors have told me to wait for breakfast only 20 minutes after the pill....
    Who told you 4 hours?

    I was told I could eat breakfast 30 minutes after taking the pill but any dairy products 4 hours after and medications 1-2 hours after.
  • capricorn0120
    capricorn0120 Posts: 109 Member
    After reading comments re not having calcium for 4 hours before taking meds, I decided upon myself to start taking my thyroxine (I'm on 150mg) before I go to bed, as I can't do without cereal or a cuppa first thing in the morning, I have to get up early 'ish for work.. I have been doing this for almost a week now & have been feeling awful everyday since I changed. I feel like I haven't taken any meds, headachey, fatigued, foggy headed etc.

    If anyone else has changed to taking them before bed, how long did it take before you felt your self again??

    Here is a link I found yesterday: http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm

    I'm thinking of taking mine at night because I love cereal in the morning but I'm not going to get up 4 hours before I have to to eat it. Plus, if there may be benefits to taking it at night, even better.
  • LottieLou13
    LottieLou13 Posts: 574 Member
    Really stupid question - but is the calcium thing for just hypothyroid or hyper too? I'm currently on prophononol or what ever its called which is a beta blocker while I wait for a hospital appt to be properly diagnosed. I have to take it in the morning because at the moment I'm only on 1 a day and if I leave it too late I can't do nowt because my heart feels like its leaping out of my chest and I'm so breathless its like I have asthma.
  • Sister_Someone
    Sister_Someone Posts: 567 Member
    Really stupid question - but is the calcium thing for just hypothyroid or hyper too? I'm currently on prophononol or what ever its called which is a beta blocker while I wait for a hospital appt to be properly diagnosed. I have to take it in the morning because at the moment I'm only on 1 a day and if I leave it too late I can't do nowt because my heart feels like its leaping out of my chest and I'm so breathless its like I have asthma.

    In my four years of dealing with hyper, I've never heard of a calcium restriction, so I'm guessing it's only a hypo thing, as calcium blocks the absorption of hypo medication. But it's just a guess, I never actually asked.

    Does anyone know how do goitrogens relate to having no thyroid? I mean, goiter is defined as "swelling of the thyroid gland", but what happens when the gland physically isn't there anymore? Am I still supposed to avoid goitrogens?
  • tecallahan
    tecallahan Posts: 732 Member
    Wow-- good point!! You shouldn't have to worry about goiters on your thyroid if you don't have a thyroid!!
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