Prostitution
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I am fine with it being an adult job and regulated by the government. By adult though, I mean 21 and over and it should be heavily regulated.0
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I have to disagree. I have a friend who wants to be a prostitute, and the Tyra Show did a segment on women who wanted to work at the Bunny Ranch. It is a profession that people want to do. You get paid to do something fun all day- have sex!
I would be all for legalising prostitution if it were a choice by the person to be a prostitute. However, in an overwhelming majority of cases, the prostitute is being coerced, forced and abused.
Most of the prostitutes are being victimised by pimps; many of them too young to make decisions for themselves.
The "high priced escort" who is in this profession by choice and loves it is a very small minority. It is not a victimless crime.
I'd like to hear the rationale of a person working in this profession. I'll put some stock in that argument. Listening to someone that wants to believe it is okay just because they don't want to own up to the fact that they may be victimizing another person is just rationalizing their own behavior.
I really agree with a lot of this. Its easy to imagine that all these women are doing this to get rich and have no other issues but more likely than not, it is not the case. I've actually known a few women who were in the sex industry and most of them had drug abuse issues and were molested as children. Those were just my experiences and that is why I say 21 and over.0 -
do you think Christianity should be law then? What about the people who dont believe in it? Surely your religion is a personal thing? I dont see why so many religious peoplem want to impose their personal rules on everyone else when its not even infringing on anyones rights
Who should speak up for morality in a society? Do you really think everyone should just be allowed to do what they "feel" is right? Religion is absolutely a personal choice. A society with no moral compass infringes on MY rights, so I believe people need to take a stand on what they believe is right and wrong.
How exactly does "a society with no moral compass" infinge on the rights of Christians? Someone else chosing to sell their body does not infringe on my rights. It is not other peoples actions that harm us (aside from physical harm and psychological trauma) it is our reaction to their actions that harm us0 -
I think that it should be legalized. So much crime in my city due to this! Hasn't regulating it in parts of Nevada helped lower the crime rate? Or am I completely wrong about that...?
Either way, I believe that it should be legalized and regulated.
I also think that perhaps fewer young girls would be roped into doing this if it were legal. But that's probably just wishful thinking!
Much like marijuana, I'm sure if prostitution is made legal, there will still be people who do it in an illegal way.0 -
I say legalize it, tax it, protect the workers, and keep children out of it.0
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I used to have some guy that would call and ask if i was wearing shoes,when I would say no he would yell TICKLE TICKLE TICKLE and then hang up on me
Ha! She'd get weird crap like that all the time!
hahaha, I don't work in phone sex but I used to get calls like that in the smoothy shop i worked at.....what was that movie where Ann Hathoway was a phone sex girl and would get phone calls while out on dates? histarical!0 -
Unless you want to make having sex for free a crime making prostitution a crime doesn't alter society's moral compass a bit. You're basically saying it's ok if they want to *kitten* themselves around for free but if they make $50 doing it they should be arrested.
There are plenty of prostitutes around anyhow even where it is illegal. Any woman who is with a man for his money is nothing more than a prostitute who only has 1 client.0 -
Unless you want to make having sex for free a crime making prostitution a crime doesn't alter society's moral compass a bit. You're basically saying it's ok if they want to *kitten* themselves around for free but if they make $50 doing it they should be arrested.
You got me. If anything you read in any of my posts leads you to think that I'm "basically saying it's ok if they want to *kitten* themsevles around for free", then I give up.0 -
How exactly does "a society with no moral compass" infinge on the rights of Christians? Someone else chosing to sell their body does not infringe on my rights. It is not other peoples actions that harm us (aside from physical harm and psychological trauma) it is our reaction to their actions that harm us
From a philosophical stand point:
"Morality Defined
Morality speaks of a system of behavior in regards to standards of right or wrong behavior. The word carries the concepts of: (1) moral standards, with regard to behavior; (2) moral responsibility, referring to our conscience; and (3) a moral identity, or one who is capable of right or wrong action. Common synonyms include ethics, principles, virtue, and goodness. Morality has become a complicated issue in the multi-cultural world we live in today. Let's explore what morality is, how it affects our behavior, our conscience, our society, and our ultimate destiny.
Morality and Our Behavior
Morality describes the principles that govern our behavior. Without these principles in place, societies cannot survive for long. In today's world, morality is frequently thought of as belonging to a particular religious point of view, but by definition, we see that this is not the case. Everyone adheres to a moral doctrine of some kind.
Morality as it relates to our behavior is important on three levels. Renowned thinker, scholar and author C.S. Lewis defines them as: (1) to ensure fair play and harmony between individuals; (2) to help make us good people in order to have a good society; and (3) to keep us in a good relationship with the power that created us. Based on this definition, it's clear that our beliefs are critical to our moral behavior.
On Point 1, Professor Lewis says most reasonable people agree. By Point 2, however, we begin to see problems occurring. Consider the popular philosophy "I'm not hurting anyone but myself," frequently used to excuse bad personal choices. How can we be the good people we need to be if we persist in making these choices, and how will that result not affect the rest of our society? Bad personal choices do hurt others. Point 3 is where most disagreement surfaces. While the majority of the world's population believes in God, or at least in a god, the question of Creation, as a theory of origins, is definitely hotly debated in today's society.
A recent report in Psychology Today concluded: "The most significant predictor of a person's moral behavior may be religious commitment. People who consider themselves very religious were least likely to report deceiving their friends, having extramarital affairs, cheating on their expenses accounts, or even parking illegally." Based on this finding, what we believe about Creation has a decided effect on our moral thinking and our behavior. Without belief in a Creator, the only option that seems to be left is to adhere to moral standards we make up for ourselves. Unless we live in a dictatorial society, we are free to choose our own personal moral code. But where does that freedom come from? The view of many who do not adhere to Creation is that morality is a creation of humanity, designed to meet the need of stable societies. All kinds of life are in a process of deciding between life and death, choosing what to do with power and/or authority. This ultimately leads to a system of virtues and values. The question is: what happens when our choices conflict with each other? What if something I believe I need in order for my life to continue results in death for you? If we do not have an absolute standard of truth, chaos and conflict will result as we are all left to our own devices and desires".0 -
Holy cow! I wasn't expecting an essay!
I agree with everything you just said and it did answer my question so thank you for that! The morality of our society is diminishing and I do not argue with that, but with things like this I think I would rather have the people who chose to engage in these acts protected by the law rather than allowing it to continue as an extremely dangerous profession. And while I do see where "a society with no moral compass" could infringe on your rights I do not believe that legalizing prostitution=society with no moral compass 0 -
Unless you want to make having sex for free a crime making prostitution a crime doesn't alter society's moral compass a bit. You're basically saying it's ok if they want to *kitten* themselves around for free but if they make $50 doing it they should be arrested.
You got me. If anything you read in any of my posts leads you to think that I'm "basically saying it's ok if they want to *kitten* themsevles around for free", then I give up.
Are you trying to make it illegal to have sex outside of marriage? If not then my position stands. It's sort of like the people who are supposedly worried about the sanctity of marriage if a gay couple gets married but aren't petitioning to have things like Kim Kardashians 90 day marriage or Larry King's serial weddings made illegal.0 -
The issue is not "morality". It is the right, belief, or propriety to impose one's morals on to other people.
To expect other's to live within our moral guidelines. It's a fine line. Nearly all people have morals. People generally have sense enough to know that taking someone else's life is wrong, for instance.
Many laws are based upon our own sense of justice. Slavery for instance is illegal in the U.S. Yet selling one's self into servitude is technically legal, within certain confines. There are child labor laws, and laws against prostitution, in many states.0 -
I don't agree with prostitution as a career choice, however, it's not my decision to make for anyone other than myself.
If people choose to make a career out of it, or even a temp or part-time job; that's their choice and it should be legal and regulated.0 -
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.0 -
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
Cindy--And how is she degrading herself? Maybe YOU think she's degrading herself, but apparently she doesn't. You don't control her body, therefore, why would you even think for a second that you should be the one to make a decision about what she does with her body, if she isn't hurting anyone else? What YOU think is shameful doesn't mean it's shameful to anyone, or everyone, else.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
You tried to dismiss the point about degradation by pointing out Jameson's bank account. The amount of money one makes from an activity should have no bearing on our judgment of whether it's ok or not. You're right, you didn't imply it. You flat out said it.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
You tried to dismiss the point about degradation by pointing out Jameson's bank account. The amount of money one makes from an activity should have no bearing on our judgment of whether it's ok or not. You're right, you didn't imply it. You flat out said it.
Wow. Assumptions, much?
Actually, all I said is, and I quote, "I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account." and then I put a smilie face to imply it's a joke, more than anything. How you equate that with me stating that it's my belief that the amount of money one makes from an activity has bearing on whether it's okay or not is beyond me, since I never said that. It's simply me saying that she obviously has made a very lucrative career out of doing something she likes doing, that she does not feel is degrading, and has hurt no one in her career choice.
Oh, and, I didn't try to dismiss anything. I actually did FLAT OUT say that she isn't degrading herself, but you chose to ignore that, I guess.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
You tried to dismiss the point about degradation by pointing out Jameson's bank account. The amount of money one makes from an activity should have no bearing on our judgment of whether it's ok or not. You're right, you didn't imply it. You flat out said it.
Wow. Assumptions, much?
Actually, all I said is, and I quote, "I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account." and then I put a smilie face to imply it's a joke, more than anything. How you equate that with me stating that it's my belief that the amount of money one makes from an activity has bearing on whether it's okay or not is beyond me, since I never said that. It's simply me saying that she obviously has made a very lucrative career out of doing something she likes doing, that she does not feel is degrading, and has hurt no one in her career choice.
An activity can be degrading no matter how the person in question perceives it. It's not a purely subjective matter.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
You tried to dismiss the point about degradation by pointing out Jameson's bank account. The amount of money one makes from an activity should have no bearing on our judgment of whether it's ok or not. You're right, you didn't imply it. You flat out said it.
Wow. Assumptions, much?
Actually, all I said is, and I quote, "I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account." and then I put a smilie face to imply it's a joke, more than anything. How you equate that with me stating that it's my belief that the amount of money one makes from an activity has bearing on whether it's okay or not is beyond me, since I never said that. It's simply me saying that she obviously has made a very lucrative career out of doing something she likes doing, that she does not feel is degrading, and has hurt no one in her career choice.
An activity can be degrading no matter how the person in question perceives it. It's not a purely subjective matter.
LOL! Seriously? Quite the opposite. It IS a purely subjective matter.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
I'd have to disagree here. What keeps other professions from being "lowly"? Jenna Jameson, other porn actresses, strippers, and other women who sell themselves might feel differently - the simple chance to watch them separates men (and women) from their cash faster than any other industry. Some people, who don't view sex as "shameful" and have chosen this lifestyle might view this as empowerment instead of shame.
Really, the concept of "shameful" is subjective. What's so wrong with porn?0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
You tried to dismiss the point about degradation by pointing out Jameson's bank account. The amount of money one makes from an activity should have no bearing on our judgment of whether it's ok or not. You're right, you didn't imply it. You flat out said it.
Wow. Assumptions, much?
Actually, all I said is, and I quote, "I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account." and then I put a smilie face to imply it's a joke, more than anything. How you equate that with me stating that it's my belief that the amount of money one makes from an activity has bearing on whether it's okay or not is beyond me, since I never said that. It's simply me saying that she obviously has made a very lucrative career out of doing something she likes doing, that she does not feel is degrading, and has hurt no one in her career choice.
An activity can be degrading no matter how the person in question perceives it. It's not a purely subjective matter.
LOL! Seriously? Quite the opposite. It IS a purely subjective matter.
Yes, seriously. And no, it is not. Good night!0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Anyone who is employed, is selling themselves for money.
Talent is talent. Skill is skill. It's their body, their choice.0 -
Yes, seriously. And no, it is not. Good night!
This isn't really a solid argument. Of course shame, degradation and modesty are subjective. Members of certain religious groups might find women who go out on the beach in a bikini shameful and degrading, or a wife who lets another man see her face to be shameful. It is absolutely a matter of opinion.0 -
Jenna Jameson is, indeed, degrading herself. What a lowly way to make money, and what a shameful career she has built. Selling yourself for money is degrading, shameful decision indeed.
Prostitution should be illegal. Though this may be a bit of an exaggeration, I don't think it is wise to use prostitution as a potential boost to the economy. What if prostitution happens to grow? Then the United States would have an economy supported by prostitution, which is a complete degradation of women (or men). For example, China's economy is built on child labor. Their profits are the result of poor children who are treated in dehumanizing ways. And also, if the United States legalizes prostitution, it may lose trading partners and respect from other countries.If a percentage of the money made by prostitutes goes to taxes instead of their pimps, it would boost our economy.
So what if it grows? That's each person's choice. If it were to become legal, then yes, of course, more people would choose to enter that profession. But that doesn't mean that every single person is going to become a prostitute, nor does it mean that everyone will want to receive services by a prostitute.
It's not a degradation of women (or men), if they are willingly choosing to enter that profession. That's like saying Jenna Jameson is degrading herself. I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account.
You can't compare child labor to prostitution, anyway. Prostitution would consist of adults, making a choice to enter a profession. Child labor consists of minors who are forced into working.
Agreed. Money isn't everything, nor is it the means to determine one's value.
Oh jeez, nowhere did I imply or say that money is the absolute determining factor to one's character.
You tried to dismiss the point about degradation by pointing out Jameson's bank account. The amount of money one makes from an activity should have no bearing on our judgment of whether it's ok or not. You're right, you didn't imply it. You flat out said it.
Wow. Assumptions, much?
Actually, all I said is, and I quote, "I certainly don't think she feels she's degrading herself when she looks at her bank account." and then I put a smilie face to imply it's a joke, more than anything. How you equate that with me stating that it's my belief that the amount of money one makes from an activity has bearing on whether it's okay or not is beyond me, since I never said that. It's simply me saying that she obviously has made a very lucrative career out of doing something she likes doing, that she does not feel is degrading, and has hurt no one in her career choice.
An activity can be degrading no matter how the person in question perceives it. It's not a purely subjective matter.
LOL! Seriously? Quite the opposite. It IS a purely subjective matter.
Yes, seriously. And no, it is not. Good night!
Prove to me otherwise then, please, because all you're saying is "it's degrading" with nothing to back your statement up with.
I'm sure there's people belonging to certain religious groups that think your profile picture is degrading. Does that mean you now feel degraded, because someone else thinks it?0 -
I don't want to prove anything. It's 1 am and I have a real job to go to tomorrow where I use my brain instead of my woo haa.
Porn, prostitution, etc - they're all unrespectable trades in my opinion. Would you be proud of a mother or sister or brother or whatever if they were participating in it? "Hey everyone my mother is a hooker, isn't that great?"0 -
I don't want to prove anything. It's 1 am and I have a real job to go to tomorrow where I use my brain instead of my woo haa.
High horse, much? I like how you assume women who are prostitutes don't use their brains. Perhaps you think the brain ceases to function during sexual activity?Porn, prostitution, etc - they're all unrespectable trades in my opinion.
You just proved my point that it's subjective.Would you be proud of a mother or sister or brother or whatever if they were participating in it? "Hey everyone my mother is a hooker, isn't that great?"
You're assuming that everyone would be offended to have a relative that is a prostitute/stripper/porn actress/actor, etc. If they were happy with that career choice and weren't forced into it, then that's their deal. Would I be personally proud? That all depends on the individual in question. My pride in them shouldn't matter, anyway. It's a personal choice.0 -
I'm sure someone else has already said this, but I'm on a very short break, so no time to read the whole thread. I've always thought that, if anything, the purchase of sex should be illegal, rather than prostitution itself. I don't imagine many women, or men, for that matter, choose prostitution unless they see no other viable way to make a living. If desperation drives you to make the choice to sell your body, or you are forced into doing so, then, in my view, you should not be criminalised. I'd rather the time and effort of law enforcement was spent on tracking down and prosecuting those who force others into prostitution - the pimps, traffickers etc.
There are several European countries where prostitution is legal and controlled, and they typically have far fewer problems with associated crimes.
err my best friend worked as a prostitute and dominatrix for quite a while. She absolutely loved it, said it was easy money, and she and the other girls she knew at the brothel were laughing all the way to the bank and it was a great atmosphere.
I personally wouldnt like it as i have to really like a guy first, but she has always been naturaly promiscuous and just found it fun.
I know its not like that for everyone, and its very open to abuse and exploitation, but i think a lot of this is BECAUSE its illegal and unable to be effectively and honestly regulated.
Sex slavery and exploiting/forcing people into it is obviously a terrible thing and should remain the illegal part with tough punishments, but a woman making a few bucks for herself by using her own body is none of my business and none of anybody elses. Her vagina, her rules, and if its legal for her to have sex for free, then it should be legal to charge for it IF THATS WHAT SHE WANTS0
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