What should be done to these kids?

adrian_indy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/greece-school-district-bullied-footage-causes-outrage_n_1612925.html

I am leaving for the weekend, but watch this vid and think about it. This literally made me sick to my stomach and if I had witnessed this, I think I would of slapped the **** out of these kids.

BrettPGH

Saw it this morning, if one of those were my kid I'd seriously just abuse them. Like off the chain abuse. Those kids need to feel AWFUL for what they did.

You know what maybe I wouldn't lay a hand on my child, I'm not one for that sort of thing anyway. But I would SHOW them just how it feels to be hurt so deep and so viciously that they never forget it for the rest of their lives.

I'm talking standing in your underwear in a basement with a lone bulb swinging overhead while I hurl the nastiest insults a man who dealt with hecklers for 9 years can think of. And believe me, I can think of A LOT!

fbmandy55

Where the EFF was the bus driver?! I would have slammed on my brakes and pulled over and refused to take the little sh!ts home until they shut their mouths and apologized. Then I would have stopped at each kid's house and informed the parents what happened and threatened to not allow them on the bus again. I wouldn't even care how long it took to get each kid home.

Riding the bus is a privilage and not a right to education. Bus drivers CAN refuse to let kids ride,especially after bad behaviour.

I would risk jail time to have a few minutes with each of those kids and beat the **** out of them.

p0pr0cksnc0ke

This sickens me. Completely. My daughter is getting ready to go to preschool.. and I cannot tell you how terrified I am of so many factors. She has a big heart... She has been taught to stand up for herself and others that are being bullied.. and she has been taught that under NO circumstances is it EVER acceptable to make fun of anyone. Especially an adult. The parents of those kids have to feel like they failed. I would be comepltely devestated and not know what to do as a parent.

daffodilsoup

Reading about this made my heart hurt. The thought of anyone doing this to another person, especially an elderly woman, makes me absolutely sick. There are always exceptions, but on the whole, children can be incredibly cruel, and I think that's why I've never very much cared for them. Even when I was a child myself, seeing the torment children were capable of made me physically uncomfortable.

I honestly don't know how these kids should be disciplined. I'm not a fan of physical punishment, and I'm not exactly sure what could be done to show this group of kids just how sh*tty they actually are. Honestly I'm just disgusted.

BrettPGH

Riding the bus is a privilage and not a right to education. Bus drivers CAN refuse to let kids ride,especially after bad behaviour.

Genius Mandy. One thing that should definitely happen is this. It's not much, but it's something. And it's appropriate. Let the failure parents be forced to drive their monster kids to school and back everyday. That's fitting. For starters.

macpatti

Bunch of thugs. Makes me sick. I agree with Mandy; they shouldn't be allowed to ride the bus anymore. But guess what? Public schools are so "afraid" of their drop out rates, that my guess is they'd let them back on the bus with just a slap on the wrist. I'm also guessing the parents of these kids wouldn't be much help with the discipline that needs to happen.

DieVixen

I saw this on the news,really awfull

secretlobster

It made my heart physically hurt to watch this. I would put my child up for an adoption if I found out he/she was involved in this.

The idea of raising kids in this decade makes me just not want to.

vim_n_vigor

I don't even know how I would react if one of my kids were to ever do something so heartless and cruel. I feel so bad for this poor woman. Sadly, these kids are old enough to know exactly what they were doing, and I don't know that anything will really teach them a lesson.

spade117

Where the EFF was the bus driver?!

For some odd reason, the lady was sitting in the second last seat at the back of the bus. The driver would have never noticed.

ElleOQuent

I'd give my daughter a heaping serving of humble pie. That is so utterly appalling in so many ways and it is essential that these kids remember that the world does not revolve around them. Their actions have serious consequences and these children should have to experience first-hand the pain and heartache that so many people experience when they are ostracized for being "different".


If it were my daughter bullying the lady, I'd have her personally apologize to the victim, volunteer at the homeless shelter for an entire year, and write letters to each of the other kids involved stating the many ways why bullying is wrong and scarring.

I'd also have her research the lives of people who committed suicide because of bullying and write letters to those families, as well.

This would only be after I spoke to her candidly about how connected we all are, through our very humanity, and how words pierce like daggers. She would also be stripped of all her non-essential things, so that they could be donated to a more deserving and under-privileged child.

I'd also make her watch that video over and over again and pinpoint every.single.thing. that is wrong and cruel about it.

I just wouldn't stop until I knew that she was truly remorseful for what she did and even then, I would convert every incident, pertaining to treating others with dignity and respect, into a teachable moment.

fbmandy55

Where the EFF was the bus driver?!

For some odd reason, the lady was sitting in the second last seat at the back of the bus. The driver would have never noticed.

I find that hard to believe, These kids are yelling "fatass". Unless maybe the busdriver was deaf.

I also wonder why they have this woman as a bus monitor is she doesn't even speak to the kids. I would think someone in that posistion would be a person who is going to tell them to knock **** off.

KBrenOH

This was just horrifying to watch. I was in tears by not even a few minutes in to it. These kids need to be severely punished, and so do their parents because clearly they lack parenting skills. My kids would NEVER do something like this, in part because my son has been severely bullied himself and knows how it feels, but also because I've raised them to understand that you don't treat people like that!!!

And the one kid who tells her that her kids should commit suicide because she's so fat and ugly?! Her son actually had committed suicide!! Now I realize these kids probably didn't know that little tad-bit of information but it's no excuse in my book.

This poor woman. I hope she's able to take the $116,000 that's in the vacation fund that someone set up for her and retires so she never has to deal with little *kitten* like that ever again.

Bottom Line: Schools are STILL to lax when it comes to bullying and parents still aren't raising their children.

fbmandy55

I think one thing that is different from bullies today as opposed to bullies of yesteryear is that kids AREN'T allowed to duke it out and stand up to the bullies. Even when I was in school, if you were in a fight, even if you got suckerpunched and never got a hit in, you were automatically suspended. No exceptions.

I'm gonna raise my kid to be an anti-bullying juggernaut and tell him to cream any kid who is being a jerk.

adrian_indy

I can handle all types of different bad behaviors from both children and adults, we all go through it. But when I see this kind f sickening, vicious degenerate behavior, behavior designed to rob all dignity from another human being, I can see no redeeming qualities in the people doing it. What is even more amazing to me is that they were doing it to a grown woman. I have never been a brown noser, but to this day I show older people respect (as long as they aren't being rude).

Also....those comments. I'm sorry, but those kids not only have some issues going on at home, but they are probably just a smidge over mentally retarded. They said the same thing over and over and over with no originality. I just wish that we could hire a camera crew to update us on these kids as they get older. How many will grow up to be meth/crack heads, strippers, drug dealers or even make to their thirties. Sad thing is, they'll all live until they are old, and each have 6 litle jack-off children.

BrettPGH

I think one thing that is different from bullies today as opposed to bullies of yesteryear is that kids AREN'T allowed to duke it out and stand up to the bullies. Even when I was in school, if you were in a fight, even if you got suckerpunched and never got a hit in, you were automatically suspended. No exceptions.

I'm gonna raise my kid to be an anti-bullying juggernaut and tell him to cream any kid who is being a jerk.

This.

I was bullied as a kid. Lots. The ONLY time it ever ended up with teachers or administrators being involved is when I would try to fight back. That's when I'd get beat worse AND be in trouble.

I usually support teachers fully. But not when it comes to bullying. This is where teachers completely drop the ball for the most part.

adrian_indy

I think one thing that is different from bullies today as opposed to bullies of yesteryear is that kids AREN'T allowed to duke it out and stand up to the bullies. Even when I was in school, if you were in a fight, even if you got suckerpunched and never got a hit in, you were automatically suspended. No exceptions.

I'm gonna raise my kid to be an anti-bullying juggernaut and tell him to cream any kid who is being a jerk.

A kid 1 year older than me name Tim beat the crap out of me everyday after I got of the bus when I was in the first grade. We were equal size, but I was timid. When my Mom asked me why I never fought back, I said,

"Because you told me not to fight."

My mother told me she meant not to start fights or be a bully. She then proceeded to tell me that tommorrow, if Tim hit me, to go nuts, act like a crazy person, like the Incredible Hulk and let him have it.

Guess what. Me and Tim fought to a stand still and then became best friends the next year when he was held back in second grade. Years later I found out that he was really acting out because he was constantly in trouble with his parents for being a bad student, getting spanked and grounded, until they found out he was dyslexic.

macpatti

When my two oldest sons were younger, I told them to defend themselves. I told them if someone picked on them and hit them, they could hit them back but to make it count. Policies in schools changed since then, and now both parties receive the same punishment. Now I tell them, "If someone hits you, do not hit back, but call me ASAP and we'll press charges for assault".

Recently my 3rd grade daughter was shown some marijuana and a gun (it turned out to be a fake gun) on the school bus by a kid. He told her if she told on him, he would kill her. She told and I called the school district and the police. The kid was suspended for 3 days, allowed to go on the field trip the following week, and was back on the school bus with her.

KBrenOH

I don't think there's anything wrong with these kids other than they're mean and get off on making a 68 year woman cry.

KBrenOH

Not surprising. They have kids KILLING themselves because of bullying that goes on in school and they still turn a blind eye for the most part.
I've always told my kids to stand up for themselves but I like your idea of the not to hit back/call the police and press charges. But in that same breath, it almost makes the bullying worse for that child (it happened to a kid at my son's school - charges were pressed, and the bullying got worse.. they were just better at hiding it and making it able to be proven).

When my two oldest sons were younger, I told them to defend themselves. I told them if someone picked on them and hit them, they could hit them back but to make it count. Policies in schools changed since then, and now both parties receive the same punishment. Now I tell them, "If someone hits you, do not hit back, but call me ASAP and we'll press charges for assault".

Recently my 3rd grade daughter was shown some marijuana and a gun (it turned out to be a fake gun) on the school bus by a kid. He told her if she told on him, he would kill her. She told and I called the school district and the police. The kid was suspended for 3 days, allowed to go on the field trip the following week, and was back on the school bus with her.

TheRoadDog

I don't think there's anything wrong with these kids other than they're mean and get off on making a 68 year woman cry.

So, you're okay with this?

In my world, I would have turned that bus around, taken it back to school and discharged every single one of the kids involved into the control of a school official. The parents would have been notified that these kids would not be riding the bus again for 2 weeks and the next time it happened they would be banned for the school year.

Let the parents get involved. I'll bet that if Mommy and Daddy are inconvenienced by taking the next two weeks to chauffeer their kids, they might make it a priority to get involved in their children's behavior.

I would come down hard on my own children if they acted like that. But, I know they wouldn't. That's not the way they were raised. As a matter of fact, I would be very surprised and disappointed if they didn't come to the aid of the person being bullied. I can almost guarantee that one of my girls would have been coming to the aid of the person being bullied. I don't like bullies and my daughters don't either.

macpatti

So, you're okay with this?

I think she means that they're not necessarily mentally retarded, as was suggested. They're just mean kids.

Let the parents get involved. I'll bet that if Mommy and Daddy are inconvenienced by taking the next two weeks to chauffeer their kids, they might make it a priority to get involved in their children's behavior.

What do you do when the parents have no form of transportation because they're just as much a thug as their kids? (that's the reply I got when I asked why that little boy was allowed back on the school bus) [/quote]

EvanKeel

Is this the same video where they were teasing the woman about her weight and said she was so ugly that her kids should kill themselves...apparently not knowing that her son killed himself 10 years ago?

My initial response is to suggest that their limbs be surgically removed, slowly, one at a time without anesthesia.

Perhaps a more rational response would be to force them to clean bed pans in a hospice facility under close supervision for a few months. It doesn't really directly relate to their offense, but it might hit some tiny spark of empathy or sympathy for other people in them.

TheRoadDog

What do you do when the parents have no form of transportation because they're just as much a thug as their kids? (that's the reply I got when I asked why that little boy was allowed back on the school bus)

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Let the parents walk them to school. Let them call a taxi. Let them impose on a friend or family member. I don't really care. Make it difficult for them.

I've always found that if you hake it harder to to the wrong thing, people start doing the right thing.

Italian_Buju

Where the EFF was the bus driver?! I would have slammed on my brakes and pulled over and refused to take the little sh!ts home until they shut their mouths and apologized. Then I would have stopped at each kid's house and informed the parents what happened and threatened to not allow them on the bus again. I wouldn't even care how long it took to get each kid home.

That is exactly what I said when I saw it.......

Italian_Buju

If my children ever behaved like that, they would never go outside again.

The problem most times, is that parents do not discipline the children. My children would be scared to act that way to start with. Furthermore, they would not WANT to act that way.

EvanKeel

Reasons to make sure kids know that Lord of the Flies is not a handbook.

EDIT: I read part of an article (on CNN maybe?) where the woman said that the kids are normal kids one on one, but when you get them together the trouble starts. That's what prompted the Lord of the Flies reference, in case it seemed completely random

macpatti

Let the parents walk them to school. Let them call a taxi. Let them impose on a friend or family member. I don't really care. Make it difficult for them.
I've always found that if you hake it harder to to the wrong thing, people start doing the right thing.

I totally agree with you. That's what I told the school. And if the kids don't show up at school, the parents can speak to a judge. Perhaps if the parents' freedom is at stake, they'll make their children behave better. Maybe???

spade117

What do you do when the parents have no form of transportation because they're just as much a thug as their kids? (that's the reply I got when I asked why that little boy was allowed back on the school bus)

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In this instance, I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.

KimmyEB

Yep. That's the fun of riding a public school bus. That's where most of my bullying took place. Hair pulled out, things stolen from me, hit, drawn on, and at one point, stabbed with a pencil. And like Brett mentioned...the two times I stood up for myself and said something, I was given referrals. Thanks a lot, school administration. If I ever do have children, I will not let them ride a school bus. I'll do as Road Dog suggested, and walk them to school, if I absolutely had to.

These "kids" (see: garbage) are so uncivilized, and so inhumane, that they're an absolute disgrace to good, decent people everywhere. The only legal punishment I can think of that even comes close to fitting is to put them into an anti-bully boot camp. Does something like that even exist? It should. I would pay to see every single one of these *kitten* forced to work physical labor to better our society, while insults are hurled at them from insanely scary people, telling them to hurry up and work. Basic, minimal food requirements--no soda, sweets...you're given water to drink and whatever food you need to survive. Basically like a juvenile prison, while being watched by the public, since hey, they have no issue video-taping others for the public to see.