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  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    I voted for the first time today! So, there's that.


    I just can wait for this whole thing to be over and done with. The way people are tearing each other apart is KILLING me.

    The one thing that I'm REALLY watching and waiting for is Michigan's 6th proposal. I really hope people did their research on that one... Ugh.

    What is the 6th proposal?

    On the surface it's just saying that the people of Michigan should have the right to vote on whether or not a new international bridge/tunnel can be built at our expense.

    Sounds good, right? Nahhh.

    The only reason it's on the ballot is because the guy who owns the ambassador bridge doesn't want this one being built. He started out saying.. "We don't need another bridge!" Then it was discovered that he had already started building his own bridge before... So he was full of ****. Then he changed his argument to, "It's going to cost taxpayer's so much money! We'll lose teachers and policemen!' Uhmmmm. No. Canada is covering most of it, and the rest is coming out of tolls.

    So it's a self-interest proposal because one (already very rich) man wants alllllll the revenue, and completely unnecessary. They just made it look like the people of Michigan get to call the shots...

    What's that marriage proposal/whatever you were talking about?

    Ah very interesting proposal there...sounds shady.

    They want to put into the state amendment that marriage is just between a man and a woman. :(
  • shammxo
    shammxo Posts: 1,432 Member
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    I voted for the first time today! So, there's that.

    Congrats! The first time is always the most fun...then is just gets nerve wracking. :laugh:

    Aww,second the congratulations!
    I loved voting for the first time- the old lady running the line announced it to everyone and they all cheered for me. Voted 3rd party for a socialist (a woman) back then because of youthful idealism : )

    Haha! I had this old guy next to me and he asked if it was my first time. Then he said, "I remember my first election... I shook Jimmy Carter's hand!"
    He was adorable.

    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.
  • shammxo
    shammxo Posts: 1,432 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    Amen, brother!
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    It is just so dumb. If you really want to slap your hand to your head and look at how dumb some Minnesotans are...

    http://www.minnesotaformarriage.com/

    Some reasons why it should be defined between a man and a woman
    - oh god, it will be taught in our schools! and we can't take our kid out of the lesson...my kid will never actually meet a gay person in real life though. thank goodness
    - oh god, marriage should only be between procreating couples...but sterile couples, old people, and people who don't want kids can get married...oh it doesn't matter? it just matters that they COULD have a kid if they want to.
    - kids should have a mom and a dad...so what about all the single parents?

    ARGH. So stupid. I tweeted, "if you're voting yes, unfollow me." Haha

    I wish I'd learned about gay couples in school, so I wasn't so confused when I met my friend's two moms.
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    It is just so dumb. If you really want to slap your hand to your head and look at how dumb some Minnesotans are...

    http://www.minnesotaformarriage.com/

    Some reasons why it should be defined between a man and a woman
    - oh god, it will be taught in our schools! and we can't take our kid out of the lesson...my kid will never actually meet a gay person in real life though. thank goodness
    - oh god, marriage should only be between procreating couples...but sterile couples, old people, and people who don't want kids can get married...oh it doesn't matter? it just matters that they COULD have a kid if they want to.
    - kids should have a mom and a dad...so what about all the single parents?

    ARGH. So stupid. I tweeted, "if you're voting yes, unfollow me." Haha

    I wish I'd learned about gay couples in school, so I wasn't so confused when I met my friend's two moms.
    Similar proposal is happening in my state of WA. I hope it passes.
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    It is just so dumb. If you really want to slap your hand to your head and look at how dumb some Minnesotans are...

    http://www.minnesotaformarriage.com/

    Some reasons why it should be defined between a man and a woman
    - oh god, it will be taught in our schools! and we can't take our kid out of the lesson...my kid will never actually meet a gay person in real life though. thank goodness
    - oh god, marriage should only be between procreating couples...but sterile couples, old people, and people who don't want kids can get married...oh it doesn't matter? it just matters that they COULD have a kid if they want to.
    - kids should have a mom and a dad...so what about all the single parents?

    ARGH. So stupid. I tweeted, "if you're voting yes, unfollow me." Haha

    I wish I'd learned about gay couples in school, so I wasn't so confused when I met my friend's two moms.
    Similar proposal is happening in my state of WA. I hope it passes.

    To define marriage between a man and woman?
  • Laces_0ut
    Laces_0ut Posts: 3,750 Member
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    my home state of Maryland looks like they will pass gay marriage. at least they votes are in favor right now. im proud of my home state. :)
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    my home state of Maryland looks like they will pass gay marriage. at least they votes are in favor right now. im proud of my home state. :)

    Yay! That is great news!
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    It is just so dumb. If you really want to slap your hand to your head and look at how dumb some Minnesotans are...

    http://www.minnesotaformarriage.com/

    Some reasons why it should be defined between a man and a woman
    - oh god, it will be taught in our schools! and we can't take our kid out of the lesson...my kid will never actually meet a gay person in real life though. thank goodness
    - oh god, marriage should only be between procreating couples...but sterile couples, old people, and people who don't want kids can get married...oh it doesn't matter? it just matters that they COULD have a kid if they want to.
    - kids should have a mom and a dad...so what about all the single parents?

    ARGH. So stupid. I tweeted, "if you're voting yes, unfollow me." Haha

    I wish I'd learned about gay couples in school, so I wasn't so confused when I met my friend's two moms.
    Similar proposal is happening in my state of WA. I hope it passes.

    To define marriage between a man and woman?
    Referendum 74 in WA is to allow same-sex couples to marry, apply marriage laws without regard to gender, and for laws that are gender specific to also include terms for same-sex couples.
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    It is just so dumb. If you really want to slap your hand to your head and look at how dumb some Minnesotans are...

    http://www.minnesotaformarriage.com/

    Some reasons why it should be defined between a man and a woman
    - oh god, it will be taught in our schools! and we can't take our kid out of the lesson...my kid will never actually meet a gay person in real life though. thank goodness
    - oh god, marriage should only be between procreating couples...but sterile couples, old people, and people who don't want kids can get married...oh it doesn't matter? it just matters that they COULD have a kid if they want to.
    - kids should have a mom and a dad...so what about all the single parents?

    ARGH. So stupid. I tweeted, "if you're voting yes, unfollow me." Haha

    I wish I'd learned about gay couples in school, so I wasn't so confused when I met my friend's two moms.
    Similar proposal is happening in my state of WA. I hope it passes.

    To define marriage between a man and woman?
    Referendum 74 in WA is to allow same-sex couples to marry, apply marriage laws without regard to gender, and for laws that are gender specific to also include terms for same-sex couples.

    Ah, I was gonna say...I support that as well! I thought you were anti-gay marriage, and I was gonna be sad :(
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
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    @ christine- ooooh no! I figured that by now it would just be legal across the board... I was wrong.

    It's ridiculous. All the reasons to define marriage between a man and a woman are just dumb. So far it's going good though!

    agreed. in 100 years they will look back at us debating this like we look back at the time when they debated equal rights for minorities.

    It is just so dumb. If you really want to slap your hand to your head and look at how dumb some Minnesotans are...

    http://www.minnesotaformarriage.com/

    Some reasons why it should be defined between a man and a woman
    - oh god, it will be taught in our schools! and we can't take our kid out of the lesson...my kid will never actually meet a gay person in real life though. thank goodness
    - oh god, marriage should only be between procreating couples...but sterile couples, old people, and people who don't want kids can get married...oh it doesn't matter? it just matters that they COULD have a kid if they want to.
    - kids should have a mom and a dad...so what about all the single parents?

    ARGH. So stupid. I tweeted, "if you're voting yes, unfollow me." Haha

    I wish I'd learned about gay couples in school, so I wasn't so confused when I met my friend's two moms.
    Similar proposal is happening in my state of WA. I hope it passes.

    To define marriage between a man and woman?
    Referendum 74 in WA is to allow same-sex couples to marry, apply marriage laws without regard to gender, and for laws that are gender specific to also include terms for same-sex couples.

    Ah, I was gonna say...I support that as well! I thought you were anti-gay marriage, and I was gonna be sad :(
    Oh no. Never. Everyone, regardless of gender preference, should have right to be miserable and married, like straight couples.:tongue:
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Oh no. Never. Everyone, regardless of gender preference, should have right to be miserable and married, like straight couples.:tongue:

    Very true. Or broke, bitter, and divorced. :laugh:
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    NBC is calling it for Obama. So is CNN. Guess they aren't worried about any last minute surprises.
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
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    YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY!
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Meh. My son will be delighted. I guess Obama is at least smarter than Romney and doesn't look like he belongs on the cover of a 1980s middle management self-help book or out selling used cars. And that's about all I can say for the guy.
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
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    WA same-sex marriage is passing, though it's slim. 52% for it, 47% against. Also puff puff pass is winning as well.
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    WA same-sex marriage is passing, though it's slim. 52% for it, 47% against. Also puff puff pass is winning as well.

    Good on the same sex marriage passing, not a clue what puff puff pass is. Medical marijuana law would be my guess. :laugh:
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,370 Member
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    Please everyone keep in mind that despite politics being a not allowed subject on MFP much greater latitude is extended to groups.
    In light of that and given everything in evidence the USA is split roughly 50/50 on issues so that means whatever you say is probably going to be agreed with here or be offensive to half of the single peeps membership.

    Lets keep that in mind and be respectful regardless ones views on the election outcomes or issues.
    Thank you and good night.