February Check-n-chat: Bada$$ B!tches do it with barbells

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  • Juliejustsaying
    Juliejustsaying Posts: 2,332 Member
    *Wonders how long one needs to post here before people accept you and respond to your posts* :)

    I found it was instantaeous acceptance....;) I'm not one of the older members (or the holy grail as I refer to you ladies) but I'm happy to welcome you!!

    join the badassery...(<----yeah I love that word..heheh)

    @the holy grail....you ladies are doing some awesome, awesome numbers...I'm really impressed. I can't imagine hitting those numbers..I will eventually...

    @extra thank you for the example...I know I'm not very patient, get discouraged easily...but I am a fighter and with all this encouragement I certainly won't give up.

    not an nsv at all...I ate like a boss yesterday...and I still have a food baby today (popped out stomach) and yet I don't regret it...lol...I did avoid eating cake until this morning, when I could plan it into my calories...

    yeah!
  • fisherlassie
    fisherlassie Posts: 542 Member
    Made the mistake of trying out a boxing fitness class a few hours after lifting, and boy do I feel it today. Never felt such bad aching muscles...legs and arms and shoulders, lol. I had assumed the boxing would be just sparring, but she had us doing a set of 50 crunches, followed by a minutes long plank, followed by repeats of the same in slightly lower numbers, as well as squats, lunges, pushups, skipping, sparring, running around and ouch, oh my. First time I have experienced this degree of muscle ache.

    Also starving hungry now, the day after.
    Even after having chicken breast, sweet potato, a pound of vegetables and some butter for dinner, lol.

    I get really hungry when I work out too. Exercise is definitely not an appetite suppressant for me! It sounds like you are feeding yourself really well! Great dinner!
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Made the mistake of trying out a boxing fitness class a few hours after lifting, and boy do I feel it today. Never felt such bad aching muscles...legs and arms and shoulders, lol. I had assumed the boxing would be just sparring, but she had us doing a set of 50 crunches, followed by a minutes long plank, followed by repeats of the same in slightly lower numbers, as well as squats, lunges, pushups, skipping, sparring, running around and ouch, oh my. First time I have experienced this degree of muscle ache.

    Also starving hungry now, the day after.
    Even after having chicken breast, sweet potato, a pound of vegetables and some butter for dinner, lol.

    I get really hungry when I work out too. Exercise is definitely not an appetite suppressant for me! It sounds like you are feeding yourself really well! Great dinner!

    Thanks, yes I try to eat well, though I cannot deny I have yet to break free of my status as a chocoholic, lol.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    *Wonders how long one needs to post here before people accept you and respond to your posts* :)

    I found it was instantaeous acceptance....;) I'm not one of the older members (or the holy grail as I refer to you ladies) but I'm happy to welcome you!!

    join the badassery...(<----yeah I love that word..heheh)

    @the holy grail....you ladies are doing some awesome, awesome numbers...I'm really impressed. I can't imagine hitting those numbers..I will eventually...

    @extra thank you for the example...I know I'm not very patient, get discouraged easily...but I am a fighter and with all this encouragement I certainly won't give up.

    not an nsv at all...I ate like a boss yesterday...and I still have a food baby today (popped out stomach) and yet I don't regret it...lol...I did avoid eating cake until this morning, when I could plan it into my calories...

    yeah!

    Thanks, always daunting when you walk into anywhere, even an online group, where people have sort of been for awhile.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    *Wonders how long one needs to post here before people accept you and respond to your posts* :)

    Couple weeks.

    Or ... right now.

    :bigsmile:

    Lol, I hope so, kinda hard starting out with this alone. I have debated hiring a trainer for one session just to make sure I have the correct form.
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Thanks, yes I try to eat well, though I cannot deny I have yet to break free of my status as a chocoholic, lol.

    Why would anyone want to? I intend to remain a chocoholic for life.
    Lol, I hope so, kinda hard starting out with this alone. I have debated hiring a trainer for one session just to make sure I have the correct form.

    Finding a trainer for a session is a good idea ... BUT ... keep in mind that trainers are only as good as their training, and just because they're certified doesn't mean they have good lifting form (or even know about it).

    I suggest you watch the Stronglifts videos and also Mark Rippetoe's (Starting Strength) videos. I play Rippetoe's videos on my tablet often during workouts (did again today) to make sure my form is good.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Thanks, yes I try to eat well, though I cannot deny I have yet to break free of my status as a chocoholic, lol.

    Why would anyone want to? I intend to remain a chocoholic for life.
    Lol, I hope so, kinda hard starting out with this alone. I have debated hiring a trainer for one session just to make sure I have the correct form.

    Finding a trainer for a session is a good idea ... BUT ... keep in mind that trainers are only as good as their training, and just because they're certified doesn't mean they have good lifting form (or even know about it).

    I suggest you watch the Stronglifts videos and also Mark Rippetoe's (Starting Strength) videos. I play Rippetoe's videos on my tablet often during workouts (did again today) to make sure my form is good.

    Yes, I have watched the stronglifts video, not come across the Starting Strength videos though.
    I have figured I may have been squatting with the barbell in the wrong place, judging from the video. I have been squatting with it resting on my upper back but in the video, he looks as if he is holding the bar slightly away from his back, unless I am seeing it wrong ?
  • Juliejustsaying
    Juliejustsaying Posts: 2,332 Member
    OMG ladies!!! My abs are so sore today...I'm so excited! I thought last night's workout was a bomb..but obviously I did something right...woooot!!!!

    got my badassery feeling back!!!!

    :bigsmile:
  • zorreena
    zorreena Posts: 267 Member
    Lol, I hope so, kinda hard starting out with this alone. I have debated hiring a trainer for one session just to make sure I have the correct form.

    Finding a trainer for a session is a good idea ... BUT ... keep in mind that trainers are only as good as their training, and just because they're certified doesn't mean they have good lifting form (or even know about it).

    I suggest you watch the Stronglifts videos and also Mark Rippetoe's (Starting Strength) videos. I play Rippetoe's videos on my tablet often during workouts (did again today) to make sure my form is good.
    Yes, I have watched the stronglifts video, not come across the Starting Strength videos though.
    I have figured I may have been squatting with the barbell in the wrong place, judging from the video. I have been squatting with it resting on my upper back but in the video, he looks as if he is holding the bar slightly away from his back, unless I am seeing it wrong ?
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    I think the bar should be resting on your trapezius muscles. Not an expert on this as I'm pretty new. The trainer I am using one but she is pretty new to weightlifting and I think she isn't always sure about correct form either. Luckily 5 trainer sessions came free with my membership I won in a draw. I am still struggling with form on rows and I just completed session 12 in the SL app. So I expect my correct comfortable form will come with time as long as I keep in mind this is still new for me. I'm still learning something new about my body every session.

    Some crossfit videos give great instructions for lifting as well.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    I think the bar should be resting on your trapezius muscles. Not an expert on this as I'm pretty new. The trainer I am using one but she is pretty new to weightlifting and I think she was showing me rows wrong. She has a serious fore arm tendinitis or something from WLing. It was so bad she took last week off. She said fr rows to just let the bar hang in my straight arms rather than return to the floor. I could feel the strain on my own arms and last lifting session took these ladies suggestions and piled up weights to raise the bar to a more comfortable level. I am still struggling with form on rows and I just completed session 12 in the SL app.

    Some crossfit videos give great instructions for lifting as well.

    I only just started doing rows, believe it or not as it took me that long to find out what they are lol. I was told to use a step rather than lift them from floor level, so yeah, i was not putting them back down on the floor either. I asked two guys doing them why they used the step.
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Yes, I have watched the stronglifts video, not come across the Starting Strength videos though.
    I have figured I may have been squatting with the barbell in the wrong place, judging from the video. I have been squatting with it resting on my upper back but in the video, he looks as if he is holding the bar slightly away from his back, unless I am seeing it wrong ?

    Ok sweetie maybe these will help you:

    Squat : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawBY5p29fQ

    Deadlift: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8jgCFXYTU

    Overhead Press: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXPJ3PfdyY

    Bench Press; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQutODgl2J4

    These are all with Rippetoe and produced for Crossfit.

    Pendlay Rows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKg

    This is by the man himself - Glenn Pendlay

    You can basically go to Youtube and do a search under Mark Rippetoe (and then whichever exercise you're looking for) and he will explain everything you want to check out, in depth and with great precision.
  • zorreena
    zorreena Posts: 267 Member
    Barbell rows conundrum:

    Option A: Should I be trying to do this:
    http://youtu.be/EoppINuThrk

    OR

    Option B should I be trying to do this:
    http://youtu.be/rjd8QtRzKYI

    Option B doesn't seem friendly once getting to heavier loads. Option A is more complicated to get correct form. What does everyone here do. My trainer instructed Option B. I'm still struggling to figure out what I should be doing.

    I just watched the Pendlays row video and I've watched it before but once I get to the gym I just can't seem to accomplish that flat back. Mine is all rounded and I can only get it flat if I do option B - the cheater row.
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Barbell rows conundrum:

    Option A: Should I be trying to do this:
    http://youtu.be/EoppINuThrk

    OR

    Option B should I be trying to do this:
    http://youtu.be/rjd8QtRzKYI

    Option B doesn't seem friendly once getting to heavier loads. Option A is more complicated to get correct form. What does everyone here do. My trainer instructed Option B. I'm still struggling to figure out what I should be doing.

    Depends on what you want to work out. Option B puts you at like a 45 degree angle and so the muscles you'll be working are going to be different from A where the back is almost parallel to the floor.

    They're both barbell rows, but different types.

    Which you choose is ultimately up to you, really. Pretty sure for Stronglifts it's the Pendlay (with the parallel back and the weight back on the floor with every rep) and not the classic barbell row.

    Here is the Pendlay Row video:

    Pendlay Rows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKg

    There's some folk who do neither and opt for 1-arm rows because of tweaked backs and whatnot. Straight up barbell rows aren't for everyone, so if you end up modifying, there's no shame in that.

    If I can't get my act together with the Pendlays I might switch to another version myself or just purchase a short bar and do them 1-armed. Then again I might just do the power cleans. Lots of options with this here lifting business. :laugh:

    P.S. Y'all keep in mind that I'm a total noob yet, so take what I say with a grain of salt cause I'm only about a month in and still in the kiddie pool. :smile:
  • nzfoxz
    nzfoxz Posts: 14 Member
    Hi all...my first post over here! I've only just started 5X5, have just done my first two workouts last week. I've been doing light weights at high reps for a while and have finally made the transition.
    Here's my numbers from week one...bring on week two!
    Squats: 99lb
    Deadlift: 88lb (though I did 5 sets instead of one, oops, missed that this was meant to be only one set)
    Barbell rows: 88lb
    Overhead press: 35lb
    Chest press: 45lb
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Hi all...my first post over here! I've only just started 5X5, have just done my first two workouts last week. I've been doing light weights at high reps for a while and have finally made the transition.
    Here's my numbers from week one...bring on week two!
    Squats: 99lb
    Deadlift: 88lb (though I did 5 sets instead of one, oops, missed that this was meant to be only one set)
    Barbell rows: 88lb
    Overhead press: 35lb
    Chest press: 45lb

    Impressive! And welcome!
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Yes, I have watched the stronglifts video, not come across the Starting Strength videos though.
    I have figured I may have been squatting with the barbell in the wrong place, judging from the video. I have been squatting with it resting on my upper back but in the video, he looks as if he is holding the bar slightly away from his back, unless I am seeing it wrong ?

    Ok sweetie maybe these will help you:

    Squat : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawBY5p29fQ

    Deadlift: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8jgCFXYTU

    Overhead Press: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXPJ3PfdyY

    Bench Press; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQutODgl2J4

    These are all with Rippetoe and produced for Crossfit.

    Pendlay Rows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKg

    This is by the man himself - Glenn Pendlay

    You can basically go to Youtube and do a search under Mark Rippetoe (and then whichever exercise you're looking for) and he will explain everything you want to check out, in depth and with great precision.

    Thanks. No idea when I will be able to lift again. I went cycling for the first time in a few months today, just a short ride, and while i was bending to find out why the wheels were simply spinning, something went in my left lower back. Never had pain like this in my back. I can only assume it built up from doing the lifting, followed by an intense circuit class that had me dropping to the floor for pushups, and that the bike was the final push or something. If i stand using my right leg, it isnt too bad, but stand with my left leg and pain. Straightening up is hard, bending is hard, turning to the left is hard. Grrr. I do not want to have to sit on my bum for weeks and lose the fitness I have gained. No idea what I have done.
  • fisherlassie
    fisherlassie Posts: 542 Member
    Made the mistake of trying out a boxing fitness class a few hours after lifting, and boy do I feel it today. Never felt such bad aching muscles...legs and arms and shoulders, lol. I had assumed the boxing would be just sparring, but she had us doing a set of 50 crunches, followed by a minutes long plank, followed by repeats of the same in slightly lower numbers, as well as squats, lunges, pushups, skipping, sparring, running around and ouch, oh my. First time I have experienced this degree of muscle ache.

    Also starving hungry now, the day after.
    Even after having chicken breast, sweet potato, a pound of vegetables and some butter for dinner, lol.

    I get really hungry when I work out too. Exercise is definitely not an appetite suppressant for me! It sounds like you are feeding yourself really well! Great dinner!

    Thanks, yes I try to eat well, though I cannot deny I have yet to break free of my status as a chocoholic, lol.

    Are we supposed to break free from that? uh oh! What kind of chocolate do you like to eat? My favorite is Endangered Species Intense Dark Chocolate with cocoa nibs! I have just been thinking about it. I think I have some in the freezer

    Sorry about your back. keep moving if you can. We aren't meant to sit still. Walking is good for loosening up backs if you can handle it.
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Thanks. No idea when I will be able to lift again. I went cycling for the first time in a few months today, just a short ride, and while i was bending to find out why the wheels were simply spinning, something went in my left lower back. Never had pain like this in my back. I can only assume it built up from doing the lifting, followed by an intense circuit class that had me dropping to the floor for pushups, and that the bike was the final push or something. If i stand using my right leg, it isnt too bad, but stand with my left leg and pain. Straightening up is hard, bending is hard, turning to the left is hard. Grrr. I do not want to have to sit on my bum for weeks and lose the fitness I have gained. No idea what I have done.

    Could be as simple as a muscle strain (heating pad and an anti-inflammatory usually resolves that) to a blown disk (worst case scenario) or a pinched nerve. I once pinched my piriformis picking up my foot to dry it after a shower. No lie. Took me out for weeks and took two steroid shots to resolve. That's when I started yoga cause I never want that kind of hurt again.

    Take it easy for a few days and maybe approach this wole fitness thing a bit more cautiously, moving forward? You might have just overdone it. If it's not better in a few days, go see a doctor. Most muscle strains resolve within a few days.

    I could never do a circuit after lifting. Lifting days are separate. On off days I do light cardio. That's my balance. Everyone has their own, though.

    Get better!
  • fisherlassie
    fisherlassie Posts: 542 Member
    Hi all...my first post over here! I've only just started 5X5, have just done my first two workouts last week. I've been doing light weights at high reps for a while and have finally made the transition.
    Here's my numbers from week one...bring on week two!
    Squats: 99lb
    Deadlift: 88lb (though I did 5 sets instead of one, oops, missed that this was meant to be only one set)
    Barbell rows: 88lb
    Overhead press: 35lb
    Chest press: 45lb

    Wow! Awesome weights!
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    Hi all...my first post over here! I've only just started 5X5, have just done my first two workouts last week. I've been doing light weights at high reps for a while and have finally made the transition.
    Here's my numbers from week one...bring on week two!
    Squats: 99lb
    Deadlift: 88lb (though I did 5 sets instead of one, oops, missed that this was meant to be only one set)
    Barbell rows: 88lb
    Overhead press: 35lb
    Chest press: 45lb

    Welcome! Great work....those are some pretty badass numbers for week 1!!!
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    @Graelwyn.....My apologies that you didn't feel the love straight away! Welcome to the group :)
  • nzfoxz
    nzfoxz Posts: 14 Member
    Thanks so much for the welcome!!! I decided to start with weights that were challenging as I was previously doing some light weight work at high reps (bodypump classes) and I play roller derby, so have had to build up a bit of strength for that too! I am excited about working toward squatting my bodyweight (130ish) and getting stronger all over, so I can hold my place on the track better against bigger players :)
  • zorreena
    zorreena Posts: 267 Member
    Hi all...my first post over here! I've only just started 5X5, have just done my first two workouts last week. I've been doing light weights at high reps for a while and have finally made the transition.
    Here's my numbers from week one...bring on week two!
    Squats: 99lb
    Deadlift: 88lb (though I did 5 sets instead of one, oops, missed that this was meant to be only one set)
    Barbell rows: 88lb
    Overhead press: 35lb
    Chest press: 45lb


    Welcome! Great work....those are some pretty badass numbers for week 1!!!


    Agree with Vegas BADAS$ numbers.
  • zorreena
    zorreena Posts: 267 Member
    Ummm hoping no one is offended by this but was researching weightlifting effects on sex life because I've noticed a big positive change in my "O". Came across this and thought you ladies might enjoy reading the thread.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/811845-ladies-if-you-want-to-bulk-have-sex?hl=Sex+lives#posts-12151299
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Made the mistake of trying out a boxing fitness class a few hours after lifting, and boy do I feel it today. Never felt such bad aching muscles...legs and arms and shoulders, lol. I had assumed the boxing would be just sparring, but she had us doing a set of 50 crunches, followed by a minutes long plank, followed by repeats of the same in slightly lower numbers, as well as squats, lunges, pushups, skipping, sparring, running around and ouch, oh my. First time I have experienced this degree of muscle ache.

    Also starving hungry now, the day after.
    Even after having chicken breast, sweet potato, a pound of vegetables and some butter for dinner, lol.

    I get really hungry when I work out too. Exercise is definitely not an appetite suppressant for me! It sounds like you are feeding yourself really well! Great dinner!

    Thanks, yes I try to eat well, though I cannot deny I have yet to break free of my status as a chocoholic, lol.

    Are we supposed to break free from that? uh oh! What kind of chocolate do you like to eat? My favorite is Endangered Species Intense Dark Chocolate with cocoa nibs! I have just been thinking about it. I think I have some in the freezer

    Sorry about your back. keep moving if you can. We aren't meant to sit still. Walking is good for loosening up backs if you can handle it.

    I love dark chocolate (well 70%) with cocoa nibs, and like dark chocolate with orange bits in too, but must admit, my downfall is milk chocolate. Very hard for me to keep away from the stuff, can guarantee if I have a large bar in my home, it will be gone the same evening. Easter eggs....argh.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    Thanks. No idea when I will be able to lift again. I went cycling for the first time in a few months today, just a short ride, and while i was bending to find out why the wheels were simply spinning, something went in my left lower back. Never had pain like this in my back. I can only assume it built up from doing the lifting, followed by an intense circuit class that had me dropping to the floor for pushups, and that the bike was the final push or something. If i stand using my right leg, it isnt too bad, but stand with my left leg and pain. Straightening up is hard, bending is hard, turning to the left is hard. Grrr. I do not want to have to sit on my bum for weeks and lose the fitness I have gained. No idea what I have done.

    Could be as simple as a muscle strain (heating pad and an anti-inflammatory usually resolves that) to a blown disk (worst case scenario) or a pinched nerve. I once pinched my piriformis picking up my foot to dry it after a shower. No lie. Took me out for weeks and took two steroid shots to resolve. That's when I started yoga cause I never want that kind of hurt again.

    Take it easy for a few days and maybe approach this wole fitness thing a bit more cautiously, moving forward? You might have just overdone it. If it's not better in a few days, go see a doctor. Most muscle strains resolve within a few days.

    I could never do a circuit after lifting. Lifting days are separate. On off days I do light cardio. That's my balance. Everyone has their own, though.

    Get better!

    Thanks.
    And yes, to be honest, I did not realise the boxing class would involve an intense circuit routine that included going down on the floor for pushups then running, then pushups then running etc etc, you get the picture. I thought more sparring and had no idea I would end up in agony doing 50 crunches lmao. It was a bit of a shock, to say the least. Definitely wont be doing that the same day as weights again. I guess I just tend to not see lifting as being as intense as my cardio, because I don't end up dripping sweat as I do with my high resistance cardio and the length of workout is shorter, so I don't feel I have done enough after lifting, even if I am a bit sweaty and my muscles ache.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
    @Graelwyn.....My apologies that you didn't feel the love straight away! Welcome to the group :)

    Thanks :)
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    It looks like there are many that are having problems with the rows :sad:

    I actually just finally mastered (well I think I did :laugh: ) A few workouts ago and I think the thing that finally made it click for me is in the Pendlay video where he talks about having a flat back but arching your back when you come up---bar to the chest, back arched, chest comes up a wee bit. Prior to that I had always been trying to stay completely flat backed with my shoulder blades pinched and it always felt wrong. Ever since I started doing that, propping up the plates, and making sure to put down the weight with every rep I have noticed a huge difference in how my back feels....now I can actually feel it doing something!


    Now I'm off to read the link about sex :drinker: :wink:
  • extraordinary_machine
    extraordinary_machine Posts: 3,028 Member
    Ugh, we're in a blizzard warning so I'm staying home instead of heading to the gym.

    Graelwyn, girl...you crazy! I am impressed that you even attempted a workout after lifting.
  • xidia
    xidia Posts: 606 Member
    No energy at all today - out late last night celebrating my 30th (which is tomorrow) and slept really badly. I'm heeding my body and having a veg/relax day so I don't relapse into snotville again. Back to the gym on Tuesday!