Metabolism Reset - Eating at TDEE Support Thread
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How are you doing?
Hi, I am in on the day 3 of my 4th week now. Since Sunday my weight dropped a bit for about a pound. My measurement is the same since I start the reset though-my waist is 3" bigger and my hip is 1" bigger, and I still fat and squishy every time I looked down on my belly.
Yet I got hungry more often, today I downed 2 sets of breakfast already.
I'm not sure about that me losing weight this week though, I am more active this week and I ate out often, which means I'm not sure I eat consistently enough or not. I tried though.
I also got to use Fitbit this week, and it give me 200kcal higher than the result scooby sites shows. Then again, I have gained 4-5lb since the reset, so the TDEE is surely going to be higher as usual. I don't know should I switch to use the TDEE number from Fitbit or not, and if I should stick with the TDEE that Scooby's sites give me.0 -
Can someone please help me? I am considering doing a reset but trying to figure out if I'm doing this right
height 65 inches
weight 132
age 32
activity: moderate category
Using Scooby calculator, my TDEE is 2135 so I eat this for 8 weeks (still working out since that's the activity multiplier I accounted for?). And this is total calories consumed (not NET)? Do I not worry about net calories anymore (unless my NET is below BMR?)
Then after 8 weeks, I cut 15% (which based on scooby was 1815. And again, this is total cals? Not NET? The whole calories in vs NET calories always confuses the heck outta me. :grumble:
Sounds like you got it! You go by TOTAL cals, unless your NET drops below BMR due to exercise.
There is a post around here somewhere regarding when you know you're body is ready to finally "cut" when doing a reset, because it can be longer or shorter than the 8 weeks, depending on the person...let me see if I can find it...
Ah-ha! Found it...
Note: From Kiki: "4-6 weeks is minimum, 8-12 is even better. I did take 3+ months, because most research that I'd done showed that it could take up 6 months, and I didn't wanna chance it, & quit early. It's personal, which is why there is no definite time given. The whole point of the reset is for the individual to get in touch with their own body and understand it better. Most people will rush the process, which is fine, because, they feel overly bloated and full (& again, it's personal) The only thing to consider with that is that there is a high probability that if you're still feeling stuffed, you haven't fully reset. So as far as signs to look for, that was mine. When I went to cut, I had completely "plateaued." Meaning, I was no longer gaining and did not feel overly stuffed. I didn't have any more bloating, & was completely comfortable eating that amount of food. When people are feeling "relieved" at the thought of cutting, because they are looking forward to less food, it's kind of a red flag for me, that things aren't *completely* fixed. But, at the very least, they've eaten at higher cals long enough to give the metabolism a little boost, & if they take diet breaks every 6-10 wks, it can typically still work out fine."
Hope this helps! And welcome to the party! :drinker:
Do you have a link to the thread for this? I'd like to read up a bit more. I've been resetting for 3 weeks and feel great!0 -
Hey hey fellow resetters
So I'm over halfway through my FINAL week of my 8-week reset. Getting very excited about cutting, although seeing 300 cals go bye-bye is definitely sad.
Before I started my reset (and any strength training) I weighed 77.8kg - at the moment my weight has been holding pretty steady around the 79 - 79.5kg mark. It's stayed there for the past 4 weeks which makes me think my metabolism is pretty happy with me.
Frankly I'm thrilled that I can more or less maintain at almost 2500 calories a day. I'm also pretty sure I've built some muscle over the past 8 weeks as I'm seeing some very exciting definition in my shoulders and arms, as well as my thighs. Still plenty of wobble covering it all up though :laugh:
I'll check in with full before/after reset results in the CUT Progress thread on Monday next week, aka my first day of cut! Hooray!
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1st post here. Sole purpose for joining MFP was for this group after finding it following a link when searching info on google.
31 year old male. Weighing 298lbs. BMR 2550.
Started at 360lbs just over a year ago and lost down to my current weight initially on 2500 calories a day and was recently on 1900 a day. I was very close to cutting them again, not due to any stalling but because I was finding myself eating at night to hit 1900 calories and feeling like I was eating just to make the numbers up and not actually needing it. I would have been down to around 1600 calories a day.
After reading the many great posts in this group I know that the only "good" thing that was happening was a number going down on the scales, but I was destroying my body and losing the wrong weight.
Been on reset now for nearly a week (3300 calories)
Wow, what a difference a week can make! Mentally I'm still finding it very hard writing my meal plans and it still seems an obscene amount of food when written down, especially when not wanting to add "crap" just to bulk the calorie figure. But the first few days I was feeling stuffed midday and was dreading the prospect of eating the remaining food. Already now the past two days I've been feeling hungry very often and today even felt disappointed that I only had one meal left by 6pm and felt that wouldn't keep me going.
Hopefully the mental side will change with time too and I'll be able to look at my meal plans and have them seem like a healthy amount of food to be eating.0 -
I've been **lurking**, asking a few questions since around May. Raised my calories to 1600 for a while, 1800 for a while, then 2000 (but only for a week). Yesterday I went all in. I'm using 2270 calories (average TDEE between strenuous & moderate--doing P90X, in phase 2). I ate all the calories yesterday and felt great (not guilty is I guess what I mean).
My husband is going out of town soon, so I have a few weeks on my own to see how this goes. I'm going to try not to weigh myself in Sept, so I'll have to do measurements.
I could use some support! I'm 46, 5'3, 151. Been holding that weight now for several weeks, +/- 1 lb or so.
I've been reading the boards and it's kind of scary to see the gains, but I guess I need to try it for the 8 weeks and see what happens. Nothing has been happening before now.
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Ok, Day 3 of my reset and I made the mistake of stepping on the scale. 3 days in and up 3 pounds. The same 3 pounds it's taken me 6 months to lose. I took a deep breath and told my husband to hide the scale for 4 weeks. I expected this, but actually seeing the number on the scale is so scary! I am hitting my TDEE of 2230 pretty well, but struggling to get all the protein. I have yet to find a protein powder I can drink that doesn't make my tummy hurt. Tried all types/brands/etc. Anways, will keep working on hitting it and continue my deep breathing! 0
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Ok, Day 3 of my reset and I made the mistake of stepping on the scale. 3 days in and up 3 pounds. The same 3 pounds it's taken me 6 months to lose. I took a deep breath and told my husband to hide the scale for 4 weeks. I expected this, but actually seeing the number on the scale is so scary! I am hitting my TDEE of 2230 pretty well, but struggling to get all the protein. I have yet to find a protein powder I can drink that doesn't make my tummy hurt. Tried all types/brands/etc. Anways, will keep working on hitting it and continue my deep breathing!
I am going to try "About Time" next. It only has 4 ingredients and they have many different flavors. Probably get to it in a couple of months when I finish my humongous can of GNC protein.0 -
Ok, Day 3 of my reset and I made the mistake of stepping on the scale. 3 days in and up 3 pounds. The same 3 pounds it's taken me 6 months to lose. I took a deep breath and told my husband to hide the scale for 4 weeks. I expected this, but actually seeing the number on the scale is so scary! I am hitting my TDEE of 2230 pretty well, but struggling to get all the protein. I have yet to find a protein powder I can drink that doesn't make my tummy hurt. Tried all types/brands/etc. Anways, will keep working on hitting it and continue my deep breathing!
I was never able to find a type of protein powder I could stomach, even the Vegan Brown Rice powder didn't work for me. However, I did discover that I like Brewer's Yeast. It has 16g of protein for 2T and you can add it to pancake/waffle batter, oatmeal, rice, quinoa, beans...and you usually won't notice! You CAN drink it too, but I wouldn't.0 -
Ok, Day 3 of my reset and I made the mistake of stepping on the scale. 3 days in and up 3 pounds. The same 3 pounds it's taken me 6 months to lose. I took a deep breath and told my husband to hide the scale for 4 weeks. I expected this, but actually seeing the number on the scale is so scary! I am hitting my TDEE of 2230 pretty well, but struggling to get all the protein. I have yet to find a protein powder I can drink that doesn't make my tummy hurt. Tried all types/brands/etc. Anways, will keep working on hitting it and continue my deep breathing!
I was never able to find a type of protein powder I could stomach, even the Vegan Brown Rice powder didn't work for me. However, I did discover that I like Brewer's Yeast. It has 16g of protein for 2T and you can add it to pancake/waffle batter, oatmeal, rice, quinoa, beans...and you usually won't notice! You CAN drink it too, but I wouldn't.
Brewer's Yeast?? What is that and where do you find it? Does it have a taste to it? Thanks for the suggestion! I have given up on protein powder. It's just not worth it to me!0 -
Ok, Day 3 of my reset and I made the mistake of stepping on the scale. 3 days in and up 3 pounds. The same 3 pounds it's taken me 6 months to lose. I took a deep breath and told my husband to hide the scale for 4 weeks. I expected this, but actually seeing the number on the scale is so scary! I am hitting my TDEE of 2230 pretty well, but struggling to get all the protein. I have yet to find a protein powder I can drink that doesn't make my tummy hurt. Tried all types/brands/etc. Anways, will keep working on hitting it and continue my deep breathing!
I was never able to find a type of protein powder I could stomach, even the Vegan Brown Rice powder didn't work for me. However, I did discover that I like Brewer's Yeast. It has 16g of protein for 2T and you can add it to pancake/waffle batter, oatmeal, rice, quinoa, beans...and you usually won't notice! You CAN drink it too, but I wouldn't.
Brewer's Yeast?? What is that and where do you find it? Does it have a taste to it? Thanks for the suggestion! I have given up on protein powder. It's just not worth it to me!
My mom actually gave me a can when I went mostly vegan, so I'm not 100% sure where she got it from, but probably from Whole Foods. This is what it looks like: http://www.lewis-labs.com/products/brewersyeast.htm
It does have a nutty taste, but it's not noticeable AT ALL in baked goods, quinoa/rice, and beans if you have other flavoring in there other than a slight nuttiness. Note that it is not active yeast, so it won't mess up your baking. You could probably add it to a sauce, but I don't eat sauces much so I haven't tried that.0 -
Hi all,
Today is the 4th day of my week 5 reset, or.....day 4 of my week 1. I got fitbit and I have found out that my average TDEE Fitbit show me 200-300 kcal higher than the scooby's site show me, so I have to redo the reset all over again. :sad:
Currently I have gain another inch around my waist, pants and jeans are getting tighter, and I have gained 0.5 lb more-very nerve wrecking. I have been eating quite bad lately. I tried to eat clean but most of the stores where I lives are mom and pop's type of shops and none of them provided nutritional data so sometimes I have to rely on frozen food and fast food instead. I can't wait for this 8 weeks of reset to be over. My goal so far is to maintain, yet if after this 8 weeks I have gained weight I would have to do the cut too. :ohwell:0 -
Ok, Day 3 of my reset and I made the mistake of stepping on the scale. 3 days in and up 3 pounds. The same 3 pounds it's taken me 6 months to lose. I took a deep breath and told my husband to hide the scale for 4 weeks. I expected this, but actually seeing the number on the scale is so scary! I am hitting my TDEE of 2230 pretty well, but struggling to get all the protein. I have yet to find a protein powder I can drink that doesn't make my tummy hurt. Tried all types/brands/etc. Anways, will keep working on hitting it and continue my deep breathing!
I was never able to find a type of protein powder I could stomach, even the Vegan Brown Rice powder didn't work for me. However, I did discover that I like Brewer's Yeast. It has 16g of protein for 2T and you can add it to pancake/waffle batter, oatmeal, rice, quinoa, beans...and you usually won't notice! You CAN drink it too, but I wouldn't.
Brewer's Yeast?? What is that and where do you find it? Does it have a taste to it? Thanks for the suggestion! I have given up on protein powder. It's just not worth it to me!
My mom actually gave me a can when I went mostly vegan, so I'm not 100% sure where she got it from, but probably from Whole Foods. This is what it looks like: http://www.lewis-labs.com/products/brewersyeast.htm
It does have a nutty taste, but it's not noticeable AT ALL in baked goods, quinoa/rice, and beans if you have other flavoring in there other than a slight nuttiness. Note that it is not active yeast, so it won't mess up your baking. You could probably add it to a sauce, but I don't eat sauces much so I haven't tried that.
Interesting. I'll have to look for that... Thanks again for the suggestion!0 -
Hi all!
I am joining the group and starting my reset this Monday (officially). After dieting down and too much cardio, my body retaliated by gaining 15lbs within a few months (with some help from a new BCP prescription too). So, I am trying another route and here I am. I hope to learn a lot from all of you. My TDEE is 2087, which seem like so much when I have been staying in the 1300-1500 range for so long. This will be interesting. 0 -
****you can cheat a little to keep your streak going...go back to the day your misses in diary and quick add the number of calls for the whole day :P0
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I've been looking back through this thread and glad to see so many people mentioning fatigue. I haven't done anywhere near as much exercise as I should this week due to not having the energy and had to split my weight sessions into half sessions due to it too.
Today I've been shattered but I think that may have more to do with the start of the football season last night.
(being in the UK that means staying up til nearly 5am!)
First 2 weeks I've felt I've had more energy and have noticed getting more done at work etc. This last week had been a bit nasty though. Everything else is ok, just the damn tiredness.0 -
After got a fitbit and adjust my TDEE again, I am on week 3 now. I have gained another pound and inch. I eat bad this week though-I have been eat over my TDEE for 3 days now and I am more active this week-have to take my cat to the vet daily.
I know that it's OK to eat over my average TDEE but for 3 days with 2 days where I exercise more so that my calories intake would be lower than my daily TDEE. So I am not sure it will affect my reset or not. Hopefully it works out well for me though. And I can't wait for the cut, I just want to see my waistline gone down a bit, it's unnerving for me to measure my waist and saw the number. :frown:0 -
Ok, so eating at TDEE is actually quite hard. I'm feeling like I am force feeding myself and over the past couple of weeks, I have gained 2lbs, but seem to be staying where I am at. I also started to incorporate Jamie Eason's LiveFit program into all of this, starting with phase two since it had strength training and cardio. I have to say through I have not been as consistent as i would like with my workouts. When I am done with pahse two of the JE program, I will start my cut, so I still have some time to go. I am hoping that this all works out in the end because I don't think I can recall weighing this much or eating this much...except when I was prego with my kids!! 0
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I started mine a few weeks ago and have slowly been upping my calories from 800. I have a Bodymedia Fit and my average TDEE is 2600. My highest day so far alas been 2400. It is really tough. But I'm starting to get hungry for breakfast in the morning which is something I have not felt in a long, long time. I also have tons of energy, more than I've had in a long time, too. I usually feel a lot more moody and anxious and that has abated tons. There are a lot of positives I am seeing. I'm regular again. I can't run after my kids again. I actually feel like cleaning house. my SAD has not kicked in yet this Fall and usually it's full force by now (I live in Minnesota).
Do I feel bloatd? Yes. Do I feel chubby? Yes. Are my clothes tight? Yes. I have to force myself to eat. I have to force myself not to restrict. It's like I get unhappy with my body and my first automatic thought is planning on skipping breakfast, eating 800 calories for a few weeks, etc, but I feel better mentally and hormonally. I keep trying to see the positives. Anyone else have positive things coming out of your reset?0 -
Do I feel bloatd? Yes. Do I feel chubby? Yes. Are my clothes tight? Yes. I have to force myself to eat. I have to force myself not to restrict. It's like I get unhappy with my body and my first automatic thought is planning on skipping breakfast, eating 800 calories for a few weeks, etc, but I feel better mentally and hormonally. I keep trying to see the positives. Anyone else have positive things coming out of your reset?
Funny, I was just telling my hubby how squishy I feel now. He reminded me that it was just my body freaking out because I am finally feeding it something other than lettuce and water (an exaggeration, but still, my eating was pretty sad before reset). As far as something positive coming out of reset, here's mine: I have been hovering at a 3 lb. weight gain since starting my reset 4 weeks ago. This morning, I weighed myself and am up another 2 pounds. HOWEVER, I did not throw the scale or slam the door or yell at my family or cry or let it ruin my day as I would have in the past. Instead, I just smiled and thought "ok". Not much, but I'll take it as a sign that I'm starting to have a much healthier relationship with the scale. I'm almost ready to break up with it...
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Yea!! So happy for people who have spouses that are understanding throughout this process!0
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Good Day. I've been reading a lot on the EM2WL, watching the vids, etc. and finally got my diaries & profile set up. After all I've read, and done, I think I'm ready for the reset. I must say, it makes sense, but has gone contrary to everything I've done for a lot of years. I just realized today though, I've been on a perpetual diet for 20 years! I am 48, currently 135 lbs, 5'3 & a moderate exerciser. According to Scooby, my TDEE is 1991. So am going to try this! Not sure how the macros really work as I am used to eating servings of veg/meats/dairy/starches for some time. Not sure how to convert these to the macros, or even what macros to use. It's the beginning of another journey for me.......hopefully this one leads in the direction I want to go! Would love some support, and welcome all advice. This is going to be more mental for me than perhaps I'm ready for, but here goes nothing!0
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Good Morning. I am on Day 5 of Rest and I feel so fat. I am eating at 1750 and I am actually supposed to go up to about 1900 the end of this week, but I am so scared. I have already gained 3 pounds. But Im going to do it.
I would love to have some friends that are also resetting. Please add me 0 -
hi All,
well...I think I'm finally ready. I've been on this low calorie road virtually my entire life. I've battled an ED for much of that time, and I seriously, aside from inpatient care for ED, don't think I've EVER eaten my TDEE. It's time.
I know this is going to be painful. I've been pushing my calories up from about 700 a month ago to about 1400 this week. I need to get to my TDEE of 1850 ( per FitBit). I'm already feeling fat and bloated and like I'm constantly stuffing my face. But I'm committed to getting all the way there.
Here are my stats:
41 yo female
Last wt 2 weeks ago (too scared to look now) 105
BF 20%
I've been lifting heavy 3x per week and run or walk 3 days. 1 rest day.
I'm soooo hooping this reset will get me out of the chronically low calories and allow me to gain some muscle, eventually lose some fat, and generally feel and be healthier. I haven't had regular periods in several years down (sorry if TMI), so hoping to get that back to normal as well.
I'd love to have some like-minded, supportive friends 'cause I KNOW this is going to be rough!!!
Here we go....
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Hey all! I thought I'd pop in to say hi! :flowerforyou:
I'm halfway through week 9 of my reset :drinker: and am shooting for 10 or 11 weeks. I guess I'll see when I get there. Before full metab reset, I tried 8 weeks at a 10% cut but wasn't going anywhere (except up!) so I switched. Full weight gain (since starting both 10% and full reset) is 35 pounds. :sad: Yep. I'm highly looking forward to getting this weight off. My old "fat weight" now is like a dream weight! :laugh: lol
But, other than that, things are going well. See ya on the other side! :bigsmile:0 -
Hi everyone. Well... joining in. Same as countless others. Years of "dieting" - since I was 16!!! That's 34 years of counting points/calories/eating cardboard meals/lettuce. Hypothyroid (diagnosed last week) Meh. Poo.
The Scooby thing said 2328 for TDEE but my Bodymedia said maintenance is 2120? So I'm not sure which one to go with.
Age: 40
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 167.2 (not after today, lolz!)
Just bought the New Rules book, reading it. I have a Planet Fitness Zuma home gym. Buying some dumbells this week. Kind of lost, and wish there was a step by step EMWL for dummies thread, haha. I set my macros up - diary is open to my friends.
Admittedly, the thought of putting on weight is freaking FREAKING me out. BUT, I'm going to ask my husband to hide the scale. I also plan on keeping track of my burn and making sure that I don't go lower than my BMR (1502) when working out.
My gosh this is scary. Like SCARY. I want to be fit for LIFE - no more yo-yo'ing and stomach growling at night!!!
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I'm on my 3rd week right now. How do I know when I'm ready? I haven't gained any weight, except the normal fluctuation form carbs and poop. I noticed after the first week I got HUNGIER and kept wanting to eat, as opposed to before when I could eat 1200 and be totally fine.
I'm still good eating at my TDEE, and I think I'll miss all the noms.
But is 4 weeks too short? Just curious.0 -
There is not a EM2WL thread for dummies. If you visit the website EM2WL there is an ebook you can download. I just got it after trying this since July and eating at TDEE-20% cut. I haven't lost so I thought I'd try following instructions. Anyway off to a full reset I go. My fitbit say 2325. Scooby says 2356. On the positive side of EM2WL without weight loss, I sleep better, have more energy and am less grouchy. I have been doing the NRL4W since August too and definitely have some more strength and muscle.0
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Do you exercise as normal during this reset?
We have been pretty inactive since the weather has turned cold. I miss hiking and plan to join a gym, finally, over winter because I am going to start lifting!!! I am worried that starting to exercise again now is going to mess up my reset. But my brain tells me it will help my metabolism.
What do you all do when eating at TDEE or during reset?0 -
@fbmandy,
I don't think exercising will mess with the reset as long as you select the correct activity level to calculate your TDEE.
I am in week three of reset and have been exercising as normal (moderately). I think for people who do crazy amounts of cardio they are told to tone it down a bit. Lifting is kind of the cornerstone of this program with an emphasis on building fat-burning muscle and cardio is a side dish. (Mixing metaphors!)0 -
OK- I've been eating at TDEE (1800) for a month now, and I have to say, it's going better than I expected. I've gone up 2-3 pounds (depending on the day), but my measurements are basically the same, so I am attributing most of that weight to water/bloating. I based my TDEE off of my Fitbit, but after looking at all the calculators, I have decided to bump up to 1900 for the second half of my reset and see what happens. According to scooby, I fall into the "strenuous" category, which should have me at 2100, and since I haven't gained a ton at 1800, I thought I'd push my luck and see if my body will accept 1900 as my TDEE.
Has anyone else tried pushing the limits of their TDEE? Meaning, continuing to push the calories until you see weight gain and then back off a bit? I'm just curious if my FitBit might be underestimating my burn and my body has just acclimated to a number that isn't quite my full TDEE. And yes, I do manually put in my weight lifting calories b/c I know the FitBit doesn't track that well.
Thoughts? Experience?0
