Better to lose weight before online dating?

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  • My take on internet dating?
    "If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my
    best." -- Marilyn Monroe

    So...I'm out there...recent face shot...but it's up to them to figure out that my body has followed suit. My profile says things like "favorite websites are fitbit.com and myfitnesspal.com where I am a lifetime member." "doing my first 5k Nov. 4th. Message me to wish me well!"

    My profile is long because I want to weed out the "junk mail." This means I don't get many responses. (way better than before when I got "hey baby...want to mix our genes?") I have my "hard limits." (no gambling, no drugs, no smoking, no std's) I have three kids. I welcome yours, but don't think I want more (I am learning to enjoy sleeping in on weekends) Etc etc...

    Basically, if they don't want to know me for me...and instead just want my big b00bs...they are too shallow for me.
    So...there I go being contrary to popular oppinion.
    sorry if I offended anyone.
    MJ

    ETA: I also don't put my BEST pictures out there. That way when we meet they can say "WOW...you look so much better than your pictures!"

    Believe me, you aren't going to offend anyone here. I'm sure there are many that agree with you. However, I am not one of them.

    If I only saw a head shot and mention of MyFitnessPal and FitBit, I would think you'd have the body of Jillian Michaels. If you aren't built like that, don't you think it's a little misleading?

    The thing is this.. some men will become interested (and even a little attached) after a handful of e-mails. The guy then builds a fantasy picture of you in his mind, which he has to because you said you only have a head shot. If you meet and you don't fit this, he'll feel mislead and maybe even a little angry. He'll leave upset and you'll be back at square one with another man. It's a no win for both you and him.

    Sometimes leaving stuff to imagination isn't the best idea.

    Just a side note (please don't take offense).. that Marilyn Monroe quote is horrible. Flip table and ask Rhianna if she deserves Chris Brown at his worst. I don't think she does. Also, Marilyn the Great was a self absorbed, promiscuous, pill popping drug addict who overdosed in her 30's. Not the best of role models.

    I hear you terp but I agree with Mike on this one. . .I would prefer to put a face and body shot up. I definitely don't want to mislead anyone. But, I think putting a body shot with quotes about working out and doing a 5k are good ways to let guys know that you are into physical fitness or are trying to get there. . .One thing about being overweight that bothers me is the world assumes it's because you eat ding dongs in your room at night. There are a fraction of us (myself included) with a medical condition that caused weight gain. However, I don't believe in making excuses and am working like hell to get back to my fighting weight. But I digress. . .
  • Ultimately, your confidence is the most important because no matter what you weigh, you will still experience rejection. The key is to know that it has nothing to do with you as a person. If you can accept the rejection without any negative feelings, then go ahead and put yourself out there. I was online when I was at my highest weight... I didn't get a single date but that was ok. I did it for me and not necessarily for the dates because I honestly didn't expect to get many. I want a fit guy so it's natural that he would want a fit girl. I wasn't fit yet, so it was no suprise that I didn't get responses to my messages. It was important for me to be out there so I could keep moving forward.

    I agree and I guess I'm not there mainly because I'm not dating a lot. . .then again, if someone was interested in dating me despite me weight, I don't think I'd be like "what's wrong with him?" I think I'd be fine with that attention.
  • Something else to ponder... The "physical implications" of dating.

    If you're not comfortable now, then I'd wait because aside from the confidence thing, remember that dating is mainly about eating, going out and drinking with someone (a lot of the time).
    It takes time, does not help with your routine, and if you cannot afford to keep the exact same routine (i.e. you will have to see someone you like on a 2nd, 3rd date, etc.).
    Then if you find someone, you have to be available which will give you less time for you to work out, run, etc.

    So, it could be a good idea to focus on the objective at hand now, and then gradually allow dating to enter your life...

    I've thought about that. . .I definitely wouldn't want to appear out of shape if a guy wanted to do something physical for a date. That I imagine would be unattractive.
  • I can't quote everyone but I appreciate the thoughtful and honest responses. It's also good to hear from guys.

    I am already a member of one site and will update my photos. No point in going inactive since I'm already on there. I will wait on joining the other site until I feel great about me.
  • mjterp
    mjterp Posts: 655 Member
    My take on internet dating?
    "If you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my
    best." -- Marilyn Monroe

    So...I'm out there...recent face shot...but it's up to them to figure out that my body has followed suit. My profile says things like "favorite websites are fitbit.com and myfitnesspal.com where I am a lifetime member." "doing my first 5k Nov. 4th. Message me to wish me well!"

    My profile is long because I want to weed out the "junk mail." This means I don't get many responses. (way better than before when I got "hey baby...want to mix our genes?") I have my "hard limits." (no gambling, no drugs, no smoking, no std's) I have three kids. I welcome yours, but don't think I want more (I am learning to enjoy sleeping in on weekends) Etc etc...

    Basically, if they don't want to know me for me...and instead just want my big b00bs...they are too shallow for me.
    So...there I go being contrary to popular oppinion.
    sorry if I offended anyone.
    MJ

    ETA: I also don't put my BEST pictures out there. That way when we meet they can say "WOW...you look so much better than your pictures!"

    Believe me, you aren't going to offend anyone here. I'm sure there are many that agree with you. However, I am not one of them.

    If I only saw a head shot and mention of MyFitnessPal and FitBit, I would think you'd have the body of Jillian Michaels. If you aren't built like that, don't you think it's a little misleading?

    The thing is this.. some men will become interested (and even a little attached) after a handful of e-mails. The guy then builds a fantasy picture of you in his mind, which he has to because you said you only have a head shot. If you meet and you don't fit this, he'll feel mislead and maybe even a little angry. He'll leave upset and you'll be back at square one with another man. It's a no win for both you and him.

    Sometimes leaving stuff to imagination isn't the best idea.

    Just a side note (please don't take offense).. that Marilyn Monroe quote is horrible. Flip table and ask Rhianna if she deserves Chris Brown at his worst. I don't think she does. Also, Marilyn the Great was a self absorbed, promiscuous, pill popping drug addict who overdosed in her 30's. Not the best of role models.

    Misunderstanding: My head shots are recent...Body shots have been up since just shortly after I started this journey. I have lost 40 pounds but have not posted new body shots...just face shots. so they will be getting better than the pictures show. I mention the sites because they are part of my life now...I am a forever member. I am NOT on a diet...I am establishing healthy habits one at a time which is why my weight loss is so slow. (I have been on MFP for 245+ days...I'm losing about 5 pounds per month...permanent loss in my book. Why can I say that with confidence? Because I am establishing healthy habits.(...some harder to sink in than others.)

    My point in the Marilyn quote is more about if they won't give me the time of day now...while I'm in process and working to make things better and wanting someone to be on that journey with me...why should I give them the time of day. Rather like a wealthy person always wondering if they are only wanted for their money....I don't want to be wondering if it is all about looks. Don't get me wrong..I want to be wanted (twice a day works for me...) But I want to be wanted for MORE than just my body. (my ex left when I started losing the weight...we had a variety of issues, but never a problem in the bedroom...but he doesn't like thin women. I can't help but think my weight loss was a contributing factor.)

    Make sense?
  • atjays
    atjays Posts: 803 Member
    If you're a girl, don't bother waiting. If you're a guy and don't look like Ryan gosling, back to the gym before you post a profile
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    If you're a girl, don't bother waiting. If you're a guy and don't look like Ryan gosling, back to the gym before you post a profile

    Hey man, what's got you down? You've been negative lately :frown:
  • Natx83
    Natx83 Posts: 1,310
    If you're a girl, don't bother waiting. If you're a guy and don't look like Ryan gosling, back to the gym before you post a profile

    I concur.
  • flimflamfloz
    flimflamfloz Posts: 1,980 Member
    If you're a girl, don't bother waiting. If you're a guy and don't look like Ryan gosling, back to the gym before you post a profile
    Hey man, what's got you down? You've been negative lately :frown:
    Uh oh! Someone in this thread doesn't look like Ryan Gosling apparently!!!
  • mjterp
    mjterp Posts: 655 Member
    I don't look for thin or buff. I look at the kindness in the eyes. But I can see where I would be in the minority.
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member
    I don't look for thin or buff. I look at the kindness in the eyes. But I can see where I would be in the minority.

    At the end of the day, you have to do what works for you. Don't worry about what I or anyone else on here says. If your method is working for you, then just run with it. :smile:
  • Danielle_2013
    Danielle_2013 Posts: 806 Member
    Personally I hate the Marilyn Monroe quote. It just sounds like license to be a brat and/or not put effort in. My worst, physically and behaviour-wise isn't attractive..even to me. I have worked to change those things. No one needs to see the worst, if I have no intention of going back...ever.

    As for dating at current weight...hmm..do I have an excess of confidence or ego? Hmmm...okay, I admit it. Yes. But I kinda think F it..why not? Life is too short to wait. I would like some attention and sex and connection now please. Let's get naked. Lol.

    Now, I am realistic in wondering if I can attract the type of man I want to be with longterm at my current weight..but honestly even that doesn't seem to be an issue. It was an issue before I lost 70 lbs however...so I can imagine things will change with the next 70 as well.
  • mjterp
    mjterp Posts: 655 Member
    I don't look for thin or buff. I look at the kindness in the eyes. But I can see where I would be in the minority.

    At the end of the day, you have to do what works for you. Don't worry about what I or anyone else on here says. If your method is working for you, then just run with it. :smile:

    I mostly find the online stuff to be discouraging...just looking for hookups or for "spice" in their marriage. NOT going there.
    I prefer to have people pleasantly surprised and it is a huge boost to my ego to have people say "wow, you look so much better than your pictures" because in my eye, the pictures I have posted are pretty good! I had friends evaluate before I posted and the feedback I got was "yeah...that's a pretty good representation."

    and as for not posting new body shots...40 pounds is NOTHING with the hundred I need to lose. People at work haven't even noticed. So....I think the pics are still accurate. BUT...likely why I'm not getting much other than the sad "hook up" or "my wife won't mind" responses. So what the guys on this thread are saying about girls posting anyway "it will be fine,. But if you are a guy you better look like _____" is a crock. Guys are looking for fit and perfect and I have even seen a ton of profiles with the words "arm candy" in the section of what they are looking for. Honestly never saw that in the girls profiles. (I read the womens profiles to get a feel for what I should put in mine. Yeah...I'm a creep.)
  • sunnymel126
    sunnymel126 Posts: 359 Member
    I'm waiting until I feel great in my own skin. I'm not exactly sure what weight that will be, "my happy weight". But I'm certainly not there yet.

    I think the Marilyn Monroe quote is a cop out. I'm not happy with myself at this weight. I don't expect the type of man I want to be with to be happy with me either. I don't think that is a fair statement.

    I never heard that quote until a male friend said it to me about his own weight struggle and women he wanted to date. I had to question his judgement on that. But to each his own.
  • mjterp
    mjterp Posts: 655 Member
    Personally I hate the Marilyn Monroe quote. It just sounds like license to be a brat and/or not put effort in. My worst, physically and behaviour-wise isn't attractive..even to me. I have worked to change those things. No one needs to see the worst, if I have no intention of going back...ever.

    As for dating at current weight...hmm..do I have an excess of confidence or ego? Hmmm...okay, I admit it. Yes. But I kinda think F it..why not? Life is too short to wait. I would like some attention and sex and connection now please. Let's get naked. Lol.

    Now, I am realistic in wondering if I can attract the type of man I want to be with longterm at my current weight..but honestly even that doesn't seem to be an issue. It was an issue before I lost 70 lbs however...so I can imagine things will change with the next 70 as well.

    I was using it specifically for my physical aspects and I have no intention of going back which is why I am establishing HABITS. NOT perfection, but progress. Lifestyle changes. NOT an overhaul that once I get to a specific weight will be dumped...as if some kind of penance has been paid and then I'm free. I also use it to mean that there are going to be bad times...and I really want someone that is going to be there through it all next time.

    Everyone dates for their own reasons. After my last divorce, I totally admit to using guys. No overnights...just lets do it and move on. NO strings. (I felt like such a guy...) Now what I want is different. I want the fairy tale. I want my happily ever after. With or without someone to share it with. Preferably WITH. But NOT someone who is going to dump me the second someone younger and prettier comes along. Because if you only want me at my best...you won't be there at the worst...and I'll be right back where I am now. No thank you. I'll wait.
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member

    So what the guys on this thread are saying about girls posting anyway "it will be fine,. But if you are a guy you better look like _____" is a crock. Guys are looking for fit and perfect and I have even seen a ton of profiles with the words "arm candy" in the section of what they are looking for. Honestly never saw that in the girls profiles. (I read the women's profiles to get a feel for what I should put in mine. Yeah...I'm a creep.)

    There's usually a big difference in what guys want and what guys actually get. I want a naked Paris Hilton look-a-like to pick me up in a Ferrari. Is that going to happen? Of course not! Just because a guy says he's looking for "arm candy" doesn't mean he'll get anything remotely close to it. Don't let that deter you.

    The same exact thing can be said for many women that do online dating as well. It all boils down to realistic expectations.
  • MikeM53082
    MikeM53082 Posts: 1,199 Member
    Everyone dates for their own reasons. After my last divorce, I totally admit to using guys. No overnights...just lets do it and move on. NO strings. (I felt like such a guy...) Now what I want is different. I want the fairy tale. I want my happily ever after. With or without someone to share it with. Preferably WITH. But NOT someone who is going to dump me the second someone younger and prettier comes along. Because if you only want me at my best...you won't be there at the worst...and I'll be right back where I am now. No thank you. I'll wait.

    I really hate to say this quote, but it's very true for MANY men out there.

    "Men are only as faithful as their options."

    A lot of friends (and women too) will still look for a partner even if they are in a serious relationship with someone else. I'm sure everyone has seen this from time to time. A man will be married to a women for a number of years, then divorce her, and find someone 10 years younger or prettier than his previous wife.

    You might want to avoid men like this, but they are everywhere. And even if you think you know your partner well, they might have this mentality in the back of their mind. This is why I always recommend putting your best foot forward and always looking/feeling your best with your partner.
  • 4themoney
    4themoney Posts: 797 Member
    i dont agree with this :-)
    i only care that they take care of themselves, as i take care of myself. neither of us has to be actor looking, just on a path that includes exercise and healthy lifestyle.

    i like knowing that it's ok if i skip a work out because he will too. i married the ideal male physique and it was horrible. i mean, i was looked down on and scolded if i skipped a work out for sleep or reading, or cleaning, or running errands. i hated it. i would only want that type of body on a guy if HE can maintain it without 2 hrs in the gym every single day of his life, and respects that *I* have more going on in my world than working out......... ya know?
    If you're a girl, don't bother waiting. If you're a guy and don't look like Ryan gosling, back to the gym before you post a profile
  • Danielle_2013
    Danielle_2013 Posts: 806 Member
    I just spent the last 6 years being "unconditionally loved"... at my highest and his highest weights. To be honest..no attraction for years. People might call it "comfortable". I call it a lonely and intimacy free depressing existence.

    Honestly..I want more for myself and more for the person I am with. I want to still be attractive and attracted to years later. There is no place for my worst. When I indulge in that..I change who I am physically and as a person. I will demand my next serious partner also cares about his health and wants to look good for me and himself. I will offer the same.
    I am not afraid to be alone. If I get dumped for someone younger or prettier..there is a very good chance that relationship was on the way out for me too. Then again...I am not looking for a fairytale.
  • shammxo
    shammxo Posts: 1,432 Member

    So what the guys on this thread are saying about girls posting anyway "it will be fine,. But if you are a guy you better look like _____" is a crock. Guys are looking for fit and perfect and I have even seen a ton of profiles with the words "arm candy" in the section of what they are looking for. Honestly never saw that in the girls profiles. (I read the women's profiles to get a feel for what I should put in mine. Yeah...I'm a creep.)

    There's usually a big difference in what guys want and what guys actually get. I want a naked Paris Hilton look-a-like to pick me up in a Ferrari. Is that going to happen? Of course not! Just because a guy says he's looking for "arm candy" doesn't mean he'll get anything remotely close to it. Don't let that deter you.

    The same exact thing can be said for many women that do online dating as well. It all boils down to realistic expectations.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.... But this kind of sounds like "settling". And I'm pretty sure that no girl wants to be the one that a guy "settled for". Of course that's going to deter someone. Why wouldn't it?