Too much muscle on a woman can turn guys off. That is a risk that muscley women run.

Only guys who don't know how to work a womens muscles properly!

Thank you, Taunto.........

So conversely.. .guys say they want real women, but the reality is they drive women to do all the stupid crap that most women do. If guys preferred "real" women there wouldn't be so many fake ones. It's called supply and demand.

Well said! this truly seems to be our reality.

Your reality is that you've never had a single original thought about what you want in your life? Or that you have never had enough courage to go through with it? Because thats what it sounds like...

I like to play with Barbies!

Can't stop looking at her chest........

DAT Hello Kitty! watch...
It's the 2nd thing I noticed, her legs being the first. I only noticed the watch because every girl I've met in person likes Hello Kitty.

She has a watch?

--P

I like make up and getting my hair highlighted. I have a new rule that I am only allowed to wear yoga pants to the gym or at home. Even to run out to the grocery store I make myself put on jeans. And all pants must have zippers and not be too stretchy so I can't gain weight. My recent (sniff sniff) ex expressed a desire for a feminine woman...the first I have ever had that cared at all what I looked like and complimented me extensively. He even asked if I would wear lipstick..as I don't usually. I loved it. I loved feeling feminine for a change.

So conversely.. .guys say they want real women, but the reality is they drive women to do all the stupid ----that most women do. If guys preferred "real" women there wouldn't be so many fake ones. It's called supply and demand.

Well said! this truly seems to be our reality.

Your reality is that you've never had a single original thought about what you want in your life? Or that you have never had enough courage to go through with it? Because thats what it sounds like...

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Really??






I've noticed that guys SAY they want a natural, real woman but end up chasing women who do all the "fake" stuff. Supply and demand. If guys didn't go for it more often than they go for a truly natural woman, then so many woman wouldn't do it.

ALSO most men I've talked to have no concept of how much makeup a woman has on or how much time went into doing her hair. Thick caked makeup and wild colors are obvious, but even a "natural" evening face can take a while (my makeup, personally, is 5-10 minutes b/c I don't have patience or skill for more). When I point out a beautiful woman, I try to ask the guys around their opinions... they think her hair is just "wash-n-go" or she has no makeup on but I can look at her and see that she put a lot of work and effort into her appearance.

Edit to add: So what I'm saying is the guys may think they want the natural woman, but only because they don't realize the enhancement she's done

Well... listen to an experience I've had recently..

I put myself back on a dating site. Been off those for months. I get a message from a guy saying he loved how "real" I was. No fake tan, no bolt-ons, etc....

Met him at a bar to watch a UFC fight. I thought I looked really cute. After talking and getting along great he asked me if we go out again on a date to dinner or a movie if I would put more makeup on and do my hair fancier. Really? So I told him "this is who I am". He hasn't called back.

So conversely.. .guys say they want real women, but the reality is they drive women to do all the stupid crap that most women do. If guys preferred "real" women there wouldn't be so many fake ones. It's called supply and demand.

Oh my god!!

If a guy asked me to do my hair and makeup I'd be out soooooo quick

I completely disagree that women do certain things for men or that it's men's fault why women do their hair or make up. Maybe insecure women who are attention *kitten* and feel desperate for a guys attention, sure.

But I do my hair and my make up for ME. I like trying new things, I like seeing me in curly hair, sometimes straight hair. I like wearing dresses and skirts because I love my legs.

I do this because I feel good about myself. It's in no way enhancing myself as I like the way I look natural, especially after a work out or when I first wake up and my hair is a mess. But as a feminine woman, I enjoy those little things about being a woman.

It's just not fair to blame guys for those insecure women.

I think there is a lot to what Amazon said...

I also think more women do their hair and make up for other women vice for us men. Not implying lesbianism, rather, women DO notice when another woman put in effort or what not for hair and make up where as, I agree with Janie, I have no idea how long it takes a woman to get ready and what all goes into that. I know when I think someone looks good, and probably would think it is all natural but in reality probably not.

BLUF: I think women spend more time getting all dolled up to impress other women vice men...

one of the consistent things i've heard from my guy friends and male cousins is that if i guy thinks you're hot then he's going to think that regardless if you meet in your sweats or all glammed up.

This.

You can take that girl that look like barbie and put her in sweat pants and a t-shirt w/ no make-up and most guys would still go for her.

I like to play with Barbies!

Can't stop looking at her chest........

DAT Hello Kitty! watch...
It's the 2nd thing I noticed, her legs being the first. I only noticed the watch because every girl I've met in person likes Hello Kitty.

huh really? Every girl? I actually know maybe 1 whole person that likes Hello Kitty above the age of 22.

Is she even real? Looks like a mannequin to me!!

I thought Hello Kitty was for kids? Like under 8 year olds. I bought my little God child HK stuff for her 2nd birthday!! :laugh:

I like to play with Barbies!

Can't stop looking at her chest........

DAT Hello Kitty! watch...
It's the 2nd thing I noticed, her legs being the first. I only noticed the watch because every girl I've met in person likes Hello Kitty.

huh really? Every girl? I actually know maybe 1 whole person that likes Hello Kitty above the age of 22.

Is she even real? Looks like a mannequin to me!!

I thought Hello Kitty was for kids? Like under 8 year olds. I bought my little God child HK stuff for her 2nd birthday!! :laugh:

Should have been more clear. When I was saying girls, I mean under the age of 21, though I do know some women as old as in their 50's that like it as well. It's cool with me. I don't judge.

Too much muscle on a woman can turn guys off. That is a risk that muscley women run.

...and its a risk I'll take. I figure its a trade-off with me. They'll get the very strong, muscular legs....but they also get the big, REAL, wonderful boobs....

Eh...plenty of guys dig the way I look. If my muscles turn a guy off...he's clearly not the one for me.

Amen girl. Except instead of BIG boobs... They'll get little ones with a nice shape and a BIG round *kitten*.

Plus nice strong arms. If you're using your imagination.

I have more issues with a particular girl who thinks it's okay to be cuddly and kissy (nothing further) when she needs it but the moment I put an arm around on her at a different time she flips out on me.... what gives ladies!?

I have more issues with a particular girl who thinks it's okay to be cuddly and kissy (nothing further) when she needs it but the moment I put an arm around on her at a different time she flips out on me.... what gives ladies!?

She's using you as an emotional crutch.

Men trade emotional support for physical intimacy. Women trade physical intimacy for emotional support.

Sounds like she's getting hers.

I'd disregard this woman immediately.

She's using you as an emotional crutch.

Men trade emotional support for physical intimacy. Women trade physical intimacy for emotional support.

Sounds like she's getting hers.

I'd disregard this woman immediately.

I agree completely. If she seems worth it you could call her on the mixed signals...but...meh.