Eat, Train, Progress Interview with Steve Troutman

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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I'm shocked there weren't more questions stemming from this interview. Hopefully that's a good thing!

    You blinded us with science.

    How's that for an '80's throwback.
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    I'm shocked there weren't more questions stemming from this interview. Hopefully that's a good thing!

    When SideSteel and I were going through your responses, we seriously tried to come up with follow up questions, but you were so thorough in your responses to our initial questions, we were having a hard time thinking of any. You gave really detailed, expansive and well thought out responses.

    Well thanks!
  • mpf1
    mpf1 Posts: 1,437 Member
    thanks!
  • catfive1
    catfive1 Posts: 529 Member
    Awesome info. :flowerforyou:
  • yankeedownsouth
    yankeedownsouth Posts: 717 Member
    I've been following Steve for quite a while now. I value most any thing he contributes, and this interview was no exception.
  • That was a great read!

    You have no idea how much I appreciate the references to genetics and other factors that can influence the journey for some people.
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    I've been following Steve for quite a while now. I value most any thing he contributes, and this interview was no exception.

    Thanks!
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    That was a great read!

    You have no idea how much I appreciate the references to genetics and other factors that can influence the journey for some people.

    Of course... I'm the last person you're going to see rapping about fitness without the context of individual circumstances.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    I joined the party late, just got around to reading this. Fantastic interview with a lot of good, very helpful information. Thanks and kudos to Steve, Sara and Sidesteel!
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    Thanks man, glad you enjoyed! Hopefully they can cycle me back into the interview circuit down the road for round 2!
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Thanks man, glad you enjoyed! Hopefully they can cycle me back into the interview circuit down the road for round 2!

    Absolutely.
  • sarwatf
    sarwatf Posts: 60 Member
    I, too , missed this excellent read pre-Christmas. I'm relatively new here , and probably fall into your categorisation of "small female" albeit my body fat isn't quite as low as I would like it to be. I know I am only repeating what basically everyone else has said , but many many thanks to all three of you for such an informative post. ( And indeed more generally for giving up so much of your time towards helping me , and others like me , on this site----newbies don't always ask lots of questions but I certainly read a lot of the forum content out there)
  • WannabeSC
    WannabeSC Posts: 28 Member
    There are some real gems in this interview....Can't wait to suggest it to my friends and use the quote "deprivation and consistency are inversely related." Well said.
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    I, too , missed this excellent read pre-Christmas. I'm relatively new here , and probably fall into your categorisation of "small female" albeit my body fat isn't quite as low as I would like it to be. I know I am only repeating what basically everyone else has said , but many many thanks to all three of you for such an informative post. ( And indeed more generally for giving up so much of your time towards helping me , and others like me , on this site----newbies don't always ask lots of questions but I certainly read a lot of the forum content out there)

    You're welcome... always good to hear from people who are reading the information. It provides purpose. Thanks for tuning in.
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    There are some real gems in this interview....Can't wait to suggest it to my friends and use the quote "deprivation and consistency are inversely related." Well said.

    I just wish more people understood that... it seems the MFP community is littered with people eating 1200 calories and from what I can tell, they're only picking that number because that's what the MFP calculator spits out for them. And the only reason it's spitting that out for them is it's using 1200 as the minimum.
  • aliciagetshealthy
    aliciagetshealthy Posts: 946 Member
    Thank you Steve, Sara, and Sidesteel, for always being such an exceptional source of information. :flowerforyou:
  • faeriewings1
    faeriewings1 Posts: 98 Member
    Thank you, I got a lot from that
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    There are some real gems in this interview....Can't wait to suggest it to my friends and use the quote "deprivation and consistency are inversely related." Well said.

    I just wish more people understood that... it seems the MFP community is littered with people eating 1200 calories and from what I can tell, they're only picking that number because that's what the MFP calculator spits out for them. And the only reason it's spitting that out for them is it's using 1200 as the minimum.

    I'd suggest it's even worse than that.

    Too many down at that level have seen and perhaps tried and failed ultimately on the lose 2-5 lbs a week fad diets, so they see MFP, perhaps told about it, and figure this time, I'm going to do it better and make it work this time. This seems like a better method.
    Oh, 2 lb weekly loss, yeah, that's what I want (never mind it recommends 1 lb weekly). Oh sedentary or lightly active, well, just in case, sedentary.
    Oh look, I finished my diary and said I'd be this weight in 5 weeks, and that was by missing my goal by 150 calories, I'll do that or more tomorrow.
    Ok look, when I log my exercise, my eating goal goes up, I wonder why, must be a mistake. Wow, in 5 weeks I'll weigh even less now, that's great.

    They've probably never looked at any nutrition label (for US anyway) to see the comments regarding values based on 2000 calorie eating level, to have any concept of calorie ranges. 1200 is all they've ever seen when they cared to look. Never mind they could add up probably 3 avg meals normally eaten and hit 2500 calories for a day easily.
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    There are some real gems in this interview....Can't wait to suggest it to my friends and use the quote "deprivation and consistency are inversely related." Well said.

    I just wish more people understood that... it seems the MFP community is littered with people eating 1200 calories and from what I can tell, they're only picking that number because that's what the MFP calculator spits out for them. And the only reason it's spitting that out for them is it's using 1200 as the minimum.

    I'd suggest it's even worse than that.

    Too many down at that level have seen and perhaps tried and failed ultimately on the lose 2-5 lbs a week fad diets, so they see MFP, perhaps told about it, and figure this time, I'm going to do it better and make it work this time. This seems like a better method.
    Oh, 2 lb weekly loss, yeah, that's what I want (never mind it recommends 1 lb weekly). Oh sedentary or lightly active, well, just in case, sedentary.
    Oh look, I finished my diary and said I'd be this weight in 5 weeks, and that was by missing my goal by 150 calories, I'll do that or more tomorrow.
    Ok look, when I log my exercise, my eating goal goes up, I wonder why, must be a mistake. Wow, in 5 weeks I'll weigh even less now, that's great.

    They've probably never looked at any nutrition label (for US anyway) to see the comments regarding values based on 2000 calorie eating level, to have any concept of calorie ranges. 1200 is all they've ever seen when they cared to look. Never mind they could add up probably 3 avg meals normally eaten and hit 2500 calories for a day easily.

    Hammer meet nail head.
  • ShannonMpls
    ShannonMpls Posts: 1,936 Member
    This is fantastic stuff. Thank you for posting this.
  • ShannonMpls
    ShannonMpls Posts: 1,936 Member
    I'd suggest it's even worse than that.

    Too many down at that level have seen and perhaps tried and failed ultimately on the lose 2-5 lbs a week fad diets, so they see MFP, perhaps told about it, and figure this time, I'm going to do it better and make it work this time. This seems like a better method.
    Oh, 2 lb weekly loss, yeah, that's what I want (never mind it recommends 1 lb weekly). Oh sedentary or lightly active, well, just in case, sedentary.
    Oh look, I finished my diary and said I'd be this weight in 5 weeks, and that was by missing my goal by 150 calories, I'll do that or more tomorrow.
    Ok look, when I log my exercise, my eating goal goes up, I wonder why, must be a mistake. Wow, in 5 weeks I'll weigh even less now, that's great.

    They've probably never looked at any nutrition label (for US anyway) to see the comments regarding values based on 2000 calorie eating level, to have any concept of calorie ranges. 1200 is all they've ever seen when they cared to look. Never mind they could add up probably 3 avg meals normally eaten and hit 2500 calories for a day easily.

    Along these lines, I subscribe to Cooking Light magazine. It has a lot of real food recipes and I cook a lot from it each month. This month was the start of a great article about the power of group weight loss plans, referencing MyFitnessPal. Great stuff, like get a food scale, have a plan, "lose weight without giving up our passion for food."

    Then the shocker: the suggested range in this article for women was 1100-1200!!

    This is apparently the societal norm speaking, even among people who love cooking and food.

    Sure, I could have lost weight on 1200 calories a day. But I also lost a damn lot of weight on 1700-2100 a day. And I've been effortlessly maintaining for sixteen months and counting. In hindsight, I realize I could have even pushed this higher.

    Steve Troutman's posts/blogs here were one of the reasons I took my route instead. Even realized reading this that, in hindsight, I strength trained the way he recommended too despite the "lift heavy now" chanters. I did circuit training, focus on calorie burn, while very obese, gradually started lifting heavier and lower reps, losing some cardio, as I got smaller.

    I am so damn glad I didn't do this the deprivation way. Losing weight wasn't a drag, it wasn't awful, it wasn't even that hard (usually). It was pretty fun actually.
  • RachelX04
    RachelX04 Posts: 1,123 Member
    fantastic read.. thanks for sharing with us
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    Hi everyone,

    I just wanted to extend an invitation to the BI facebook group (or page or whatever the FB lingo is) I'm going to start ramping up activity on the page since I never really did anything with it. I plan on discussing everything from training and nutrition to psychology and motivation. I'll also do my best to filter out industry articles that are worth sharing and post them up. Of course I'll also be doing Q&A over there as well.

    I'd love to have each and every one of you as a community only works with people.

    Find it here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Body-Improvements-LLC/206180602737670

    Thanks,

    Steve
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Hi everyone,

    I just wanted to extend an invitation to the BI facebook group (or page or whatever the FB lingo is) I'm going to start ramping up activity on the page since I never really did anything with it. I plan on discussing everything from training and nutrition to psychology and motivation. I'll also do my best to filter out industry articles that are worth sharing and post them up. Of course I'll also be doing Q&A over there as well.

    I'd love to have each and every one of you as a community only works with people.

    Find it here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Body-Improvements-LLC/206180602737670

    Thanks,

    Steve

    In :happy:
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    Holy hot picture.

    I mean thanks.
  • kevinlynch3
    kevinlynch3 Posts: 287 Member
    Only just read this article after getting your email on your fb page Steve. Fantastic article. Very comprehensive.
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    Liked! I may never see MFP again. And I already found something to share with a poster here. You are truly awesome, Steve. :drinker:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Holy hot picture.

    I mean thanks.

    Welcome and :flowerforyou:
  • alpine_dog
    alpine_dog Posts: 34 Member
    Tagging....excellent information, thank you.
  • stroutman81
    stroutman81 Posts: 2,474 Member
    Thanks guys! You sure do know how to make a guy feel good.