Already hit all my numbers and still hungry, now what?
jerryellis63012
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I've already hit my calories, fat, protein, and (very low) carbs, but still have a gnawing hunger I can't seem to satisfy...I know calories count, but if I eat something else and stay on percentage how bad is it if I overeat on calories? New to all this so I'm still learning.
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Eat more fat. Percentages don't matter. You are on target for both carbs and protein, and the point of fat is to eat to satiety. If you are new to eating this way, don't worry about calories right now.0
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I also read online that I shouldn't eat more than half an avocado a day, how true is that?0
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Truly crazy.0
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That's good news cause I use them allot!0
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Check out walnuts, almonds, Bullet Proof Coffee... As additional fat sorces...0
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How big is your calorie deficit? I am rarely hungry, even eating as few as 1600 calories some days. At least 30g of protein per meal seems to be key for me.0
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What is a good way to get just more fat in? Besides eating a stick of butter or plain avocado?0
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If you are hungry, eat. No more carbs, if you are at your limit. But plenty of fat and protein. Just eat.0
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Eat until you're full. Thats the AWESOME part of this way of eating.0
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jerryellis63012 wrote: »What is a good way to get just more fat in? Besides eating a stick of butter or plain avocado?
What's wrong with eating a stick of butter or plain avocado?0 -
I agree with dragonwolf. I love plain butter (my daughter does too
), plain avocado, cream off a spoon. Yummmm.
I you like tea/coffee put some cream/fats in it.0 -
jerryellis63012 wrote: »What is a good way to get just more fat in? Besides eating a stick of butter or plain avocado?
Make fat bombs (sweet or savory bite-size snacks with high fat concentrations), fatty dips and sauces (pork rinds are good fat-filled vehicles for them), add a tbsp of butter or bacon fat to your veggies, snack on some hard cheeses, make a fatty smoothie with coconut oil and cream in it. And the lower-carb nuts are something fat dense to budget into your day. Check out the Recipe Site list in the Launch Pad to find some recipes or to get other ideas.0 -
All good ideas! Ended up eating cheese and walnuts, thanks for all the great suggestions!0
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Jerry,
I peeked into your diary and it looks like you're eating too many carbs. Try to halve them.
For fat, try fat bombs. See links below my signature. I just made a batch of one of my favorites, Raspberry.
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
Putting Chocolate Back Together Recipe
Almond Joy Wanna Be's (fat bomb recipe)
Raspberry Fat Bombs
Previous Discussions (lots of easy Keto recipes and other useful Keto info)0 -
Don't forget to drink water, too! 100 oz a day should be your target, and that'll fill a belly for a little while and contribute to overall satiety.
But I'm with the "eat more fat" group. If my carbs are clocking relatively high, they'll make me hungrier, I've found. The lower my carb cap, the less of an insatiable food monster I am.0 -
Jerry,
I peeked into your diary and it looks like you're eating too many carbs. Try to halve them.
For fat, try fat bombs. See links below my signature. I just made a batch of one of my favorites, Raspberry.
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
Putting Chocolate Back Together Recipe
Almond Joy Wanna Be's (fat bomb recipe)
Raspberry Fat Bombs
Previous Discussions (lots of easy Keto recipes and other useful Keto info)
Thanks DittoDan! The raspberry looks awesome!
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Thanks octobubbles, I am trying to drink as much as I can, to make it more tasty, I use lemon juice and liquid steviaoctobubbles wrote: »Don't forget to drink water, too! 100 oz a day should be your target, and that'll fill a belly for a little while and contribute to overall satiety.
But I'm with the "eat more fat" group. If my carbs are clocking relatively high, they'll make me hungrier, I've found. The lower my carb cap, the less of an insatiable food monster I am.
I did have too many carbs yesterday and I'm guessing that was the reason for the insatiable food monster I was yesterday!0 -
If you consistently feel hungry and are not losing weight, lower your carbs even more. Yeah, 25g is good enough for 99% of the people who try it. But, some people need even fewer carbs than that to control hunger signals. Also, be aware that artificial sweeteners and nuts are both things that some people find cause hunger/cravings regardless of their "real" carb counts.
But, if you're just starting out, don't worry about that. Eat until you're satisfied. After your body has adapted, then you can start fine tuning.0 -
Great info FIT_Goat, thank you!If you consistently feel hungry and are not losing weight, lower your carbs even more. Yeah, 25g is good enough for 99% of the people who try it. But, some people need even fewer carbs than that to control hunger signals. Also, be aware that artificial sweeteners and nuts are both things that some people find cause hunger/cravings regardless of their "real" carb counts.
But, if you're just starting out, don't worry about that. Eat until you're satisfied. After your body has adapted, then you can start fine tuning.
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I'm still a bit confused as I just read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes and according to him we can eat as much protein and fat as we want, but I have also read that too much protein acts like carbs and turns to sugars? Also, is it necessary to have a calorie deficit, if you are eating very little carbs? Some of the replies on here have been don't worry about the calories, as long as you hit the macros?
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jerryellis63012 wrote: »
I'm still a bit confused as I just read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes and according to him we can eat as much protein and fat as we want, but I have also read that too much protein acts like carbs and turns to sugars? Also, is it necessary to have a calorie deficit, if you are eating very little carbs? Some of the replies on here have been don't worry about the calories, as long as you hit the macros?
You'll find there are two distinct camps here in LCD. We both accept each other (for the most part). There are the counters, who believe that counting, tracking, and attaining certain calorie/macro ranges are essential to success. There are the non-counters, who believe that restricting carbs and eating however much you desire without worrying about anything else (except lowering your carbs further if things aren't working) is all that matters for success.
I fall squarely into the latter camp.
The protein concerns are massively over-stated by a lot of people. I wish there was a better search function here, because we've covered it a lot. Basically, if you're not eating ridiculous amounts of protein and supplementing with protein powders, gells, etc. you have nothing to worry about. An extra 100g of protein from a 16 oz steak you ate when you were already over your protein needs, is not the same as a quarter cup of sugar (50g). It's just not how things work. Keep in mind, that's a whole 16 oz steak AFTER you've already hit the 100-150g limit you've likely considered. Are you eating 2-3 pounds of steaks a day? I am, but I doubt you are.
You can eat as much protein and fat as you want. Go nuts. If you strictly limit yourself to protein and fat (no carbs and no artificial sweeteners), you may be able to over-eat for a day or two. But, you'll quickly tire of stuffing yourself with excess calories in meat. In time, you'll find a natural amount that you're satisfied with. Which brings up the next point, that amount will be a deficit for you (assuming you're over-weight). You don't need to concern yourself with what amount of calories that deficit represents. It will exist. Your weight will go down. You don't need to worry about the calories. Your body is better at knowing what it needs than you are at weighing and estimating anyway.
Now, this advice comes from deep into the "non-counting" camp. I'm sure some of the "counting" camp will tell you some of their advice. In the end, you need to decide what you want to do. Or try both and see which side best fits your style and your goals.0 -
I don't see it as counters vs non-counters. You need a calorie deficit to lose weight, and LC tends to get you there naturally by reducing hunger. If you're still hungry, something's wrong. It could be that you're eating too little (that doesn't appear to be the case here), or what you're eating isn't very satiating.
Protein has high satiety. If eating more satiating foods doesn't help quench your hunger, something may be out of whack metabolically. Some people find that LCHF works for that metabolic reset, especially if overeating carbs got you here.0 -
....or, get the stomach flu for 8 days...0
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BACON (my answer to all things)0
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I fasted until noon today and had a bowl of homemade soup for lunch. I was still hungry, so I mashed 2 hard boiled eggs w/ 1 Tbsp of mayo and used pork rinds to scoop it up like a dip. That filled me up so much I can't eat dinner.0
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