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Same here - lost it after the first few posts. Very closed mind.0
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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH0
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My favorite "anti-paleo" argument is always the lifespan/expectancy thing. Yeah, human life expectancy JUMPED not at the introduction of grains but at the point where we began to understand germs and how to prevent infection. It then increased dramtically in the early 1900s with the dawn of antibiotics. The increased life expectancy is directly related to knowledge about medicine and infection. The other factor is the reductionin the infant mortality rate. If 50% of live births ended in death by 6 months of age then that greatly reduces the overall life expectancy. Even if people that survived infancy and early childhood lived to be 100+, the average life span would be 45-50 because of the number of deaths in infancy and childhood.0
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I'm often surprised what's allowed (given the no trolling, no threadjacking, no flame baiting, no attacking, no insulting rules). sigh.
We recently got asked to nominate a new mod. I said: someone who's NOT iifym but is focused on eating nutritious foods and will encourage others as they ask questions about how to do so.
Hope fully not one more "wash your foods to make them "clean"" poster....0 -
I'm often surprised what's allowed (given the no trolling, no threadjacking, no flame baiting, no attacking, no insulting rules). sigh.
We recently got asked to nominate a new mod. I said: someone who's NOT iifym but is focused on eating nutritious foods and will encourage others as they ask questions about how to do so.
Hope fully not one more "wash your foods to make them "clean"" poster....
THe IIFYM people drive me nuts because that just simply didn't work for me. When I explain why I am always told that I am either lying about my logging, I didn't do it right or I was not exercising as much as I said I exercised. I was on a very strict program and my career depended on me losing weight. I wasn't flubbing anything. I didn't lose weight following the food pyramid or my plate. I did following a paleo template...at the same are nearly the same macros. Some people are like gasoline engines and others are diesel. They need to proper type of fuel to function properly.0 -
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this! I honestly thought i was missing something after reading the paleo thread in the main forums. thank you for this thread!0
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Thankfully I've been too busy to be online the last couple weeks. On the other hand, it means I haven't been able to log food or read this board, either.
Howdy, all. Missing you! Hope to be back on a daily basis once this house sells and we find another to buy (and get moved in, probably). I hate the idea of moving. Ah, well. Such is life.0 -
While I totally agree with the above, it makes me giggle to think of a Paleo lifestyle as "new". Eating whole foods as provided by nature (I know our whole foods are different these days than what my ancestors were eating) is the oldest human diet around. However, the way the label is sometimes used definitely causes confusion. We are going to see more and more processed foods coming out labelled "Paleo" as a marketing strategy. Everybody seems to be picking apart the stupid little details instead of grasping the simplicity of the Paleo concept as a whole.
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I know this comment is from a couple months ago, but it pushed my buttons. I HATE it when I run across "paleo" labeled snack foods. You know, the ones with the flashy labels that look like all the other snack foods. And then if you go so far as to read the labels, so many of them are not really paleo, but more mock-popular-paleo...
Mass production and paleo are very uncomfortable bedfellows, IMO.0 -
And it keeps going! And keeps going with the fallacies and blatant misinformation!
Also, I get a kick out of the idea that it's a "fad diet" both because it doesn't have a set list of things you should/shouldn't eat, and because it cuts things out. How do you both have a list of things and don't have a list of things?
Heaven forbid you follow a dietary framework and *gasp!* have to use your brain and make conscious decisions about what you eat.0 -
And it keeps going! And keeps going with the fallacies and blatant misinformation!
Also, I get a kick out of the idea that it's a "fad diet" both because it doesn't have a set list of things you should/shouldn't eat, and because it cuts things out. How do you both have a list of things and don't have a list of things?
Heaven forbid you follow a dietary framework and *gasp!* have to use your brain and make conscious decisions about what you eat.
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And it keeps going! And keeps going with the fallacies and blatant misinformation!
Also, I get a kick out of the idea that it's a "fad diet" both because it doesn't have a set list of things you should/shouldn't eat, and because it cuts things out. How do you both have a list of things and don't have a list of things?
Heaven forbid you follow a dietary framework and *gasp!* have to use your brain and make conscious decisions about what you eat.0 -
What I have noticed is there is an epidemic on the internet of poor reading comprehension. People read what they want to and make their judgement based on their assumptions. You just can't reason with them or use logic, so I stopped trying.0
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I was very glad to see Mods chime in on yesterday's dog pile on the poor soul who asked about clean eating. It's a start! Hope it bodes well for the future.0
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I am new here and when I started going through the main threads, my head hurt. I am so glad to have found this group.0
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My favorite quote of the day "You do realize that your body doesn't care if sugar is from an apple or a cookie, right" ~ this in response to someone asking for advice on cutting white sugar out of their diet. The sad thing is I didn't say anything because I've learned to keep my mouth shut on those boards because of all the negativity. If I were just starting on myfitnesspal and got the crap kind of responses she got I'd be very discouraged. At least there's a few good people on the boards who try to help, everyone else jumps on the hatewagon.0
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Thank goodness I have found you guys. I have been on the main forum for the past few days and honestly the nastiness and mean comments really get you down after a while. I am open minded when it comes to people's eating choices but this "eat what you like as long as you stay within your daily calories allowance" approach is hard to believe. No wonder so many of these people are so unwell.
I have been on the edges of Paleo/Primal for years and follow an 80/20 approach. (Slack I know, sorry!!:embarassed: ) However, when you have friends and family who don't believe in the same thing, it becomes difficult in social situations so I compromise.
I try to listen to my body and at the moment it is saying that my 80/20 balance is out of whack and it is time to cut the wheat and sugar and start practising what I believe in and I believe in a Paleo lifestyle.0 -
Thank goodness I have found you guys. I have been on the main forum for the past few days and honestly the nastiness and mean comments really get you down after a while. I am open minded when it comes to people's eating choices but this "eat what you like as long as you stay within your daily calories allowance" approach is hard to believe. No wonder so many of these people are so unwell.
I have been on the edges of Paleo/Primal for years and follow an 80/20 approach. (Slack I know, sorry!!:embarassed: ) However, when you have friends and family who don't believe in the same thing, it becomes difficult in social situations so I compromise.
I try to listen to my body and at the moment it is saying that my 80/20 balance is out of whack and it is time to cut the wheat and sugar and start practising what I believe in and I believe in a Paleo lifestyle.0 -
Sigh. I did it again. Why?!?!?! Please, stop me!0
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Don't torture youself! Now that I have a lifestyle that is even more culturally unacceptable than Paleo (I wouldn't have thought that possible) I'm just going to avoid the general forums completely. Even in more like-minded FB groups, I have gotten very good at not letting curiousity get to me. For instance if I posted something and a known moron (in my opinion) posts a comment or even addresses me specifically, I just delete the notification and refrain for looking at the comment. I'm happier that way. The OP can take or leave my opinion and I don't need to try to have the last word. It's futile to fight stupid and arrogant.0